Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by lethalphorce, Jul 19, 2010.
^^^^ If they make it one singles I will quit USTA
It's true...here's the email
Following is the exact email I received from USTA Atlanta:
I am sending this email to all captains from this past season's USTA Business Women's teams. If you are not going to be captain for the upcoming season, PLEASE forward this to whomever is. Also, if you would forward this to all of your team members, I'd appreciate it. SO...
Starting in this upcoming USTA season, Summer 2011 - beginning May/June 2010 - the format for women's league tennis is as follows:
2.5 level: 3 lines of doubles only; NO SINGLES.
3.0 THRU 4.5: 4 lines of doubles; 1 line of singles.
5.0 (IF AVAILABLE): 3 lines of doubles; NO SINGLES.
2.5 and 5.0 teams will now need 6 registered members to play league tennis.
3.0 thru 4.5 teams will now need 9 registered members to play league tennis.
Please note that the format at the State tournament and beyond will remain the same as it has been:
2.5 and 5.0: 1 line of singles and 2 lines of doubles
3.0 thru 4.5: 2 lines of singles and 3 lines of doubles
I won't quit USTA if they change it. I love my team too much. But I will get blisters on my fingertips from all the letter writing I'll do.
Give USTA your email address
Also, if your USTA membership is current go into Tennislink and update your email address so you can get these surveys. That way you'll have a voice in these changes. USTA will often ask for your opinion on stuff like this and they do listen but if no one's talking then 1 line of singles is what we'll all get.
WOW. I also remember getting that survey over the winter and I replied that I kinda liked things the way they are (2 singles, 3 doubles and keeping "seniors" at 50+).
I can understand why Atlanta would be guinea pigs; ya'll are tops in tennis opportunities of all kinds. But I can't believe they'd still make you do the 2/3 format at states/districts. Juggling your lineups will/would be a nightmare.
I don't like the 3rd set tiebreak (although I understand why we now do it). I won't like the 1/4 format either.
One of the day leagues is four courts -- three doubles and one singles. Doesn't make much sense to me, as you wind up with 2-2 ties.
No tie breaks on overall number of games won - or a single point tie break on the last court to finish?
Wonder if it's only the women's league ? Guess it doesn't matter all that much, I have other options for singles.
Another SC player here - we're in the middle of our USTA singles league. Last year our state tournament was at Daniel Island, which was a lot of fun. The only down side was that they didn't have it until November! Oh, and that we only have three teams so our entire season is only six matches. I'm hoping the state tournament will be a bit earlier this year.
As a captain, my experience has been that about 50% of players tell me they prefer singles, 25% prefer doubles, and 25% are fine with either. So a lot of players get stuck playing doubles who would rather play singles.
I see a lot of good singles players duck tournaments they don't feel they can win.
Especially if they have won in the past but know they are no longer the big fish in the little pond.
Doubles is fun but man on man is where you figure out what your made of.
No one to blame except yourself.
Just be happy with the 2 singles and 3 doubles format. Most of the teams in our area has trouble fielding 2 singles guys week in and week out. Most guys get injured and guys over 35, want to play doubles not singles. You are an exception.
ONE GREAT way to satisfy your singles desire is to play USTA tournaments and/or Local sponsored tournament. Plenty of Singles play there.
I believe 2-2 ties are normally resolved with the same tie-breaks used to separate teams in a division:
- individual matches won (we know that is a 2-2 tie)
- sets lost
- games lost
At least in Atlanta, leagues are set up with 3 or 4 matches rather than 5 to help players form teams when they are generally struggling for numbers. Last winter the men's 5.0 played 4 matches. This summer, after the great realignment, there were enough 5.0 players to go back to 5 matches. There were also enough 5.5 players to form a 5.5 league, playing 3 matches.
Note that email says "beginning May/June 2010". It didn't happen. More time is being allowed for feedback. It does seem that the women in Atlanta generally approve of playing fewer singles lines. The men want to stay with 2.
State and Section would stay 2/3 because Atlanta cannot tell the whole Southern Section what to do.
I don't know whether trying a 1/4 format is influenced at all by USTA National. It could be, but I have never heard that mentioned - I thought it was just a response to the (women) players in the Atlanta local league preferring to have more doubles.
I'm over 35 and I can play good singles. I think managing your body and avoiding injuries are key at any age. If you can remain healthy you can play singles. Its like Nadal will retire lot earlier than Roger it due to the style of play and managing your body.
Majority of guys over 35 want to play Doubles Not singles. Yes occasionally they want to play singles. That is why there is 2 Singles and Not 1 singles. 2 singles and 3 doubles is Plenty of singles. You can play in one of those spots, and don't worry about others.
Your making blanket statements about people over 35. I'm in way better shape than I was in my mid twenties. If you think 35 is the ceiling then your going to be old man lot sooner someday.....
It is guys like you they reason USTA has 2 singles,,,ok???? If it was up to me, it would only be 1 singles. most teams have trouble getting 2 singles guys because most of them even at USTA 4.5 level want to play doubles. These guys are all in great shape and play at high level.
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Exactly - I'm still getting better every year than I was the year before. I'm faster around the court and my strokes are more powerful. I'm not dead yet!
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