If Federer does not win London Olympics

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  1. baseline_monster

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    How many points is the olympics worth...
     
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  2. Rui

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    It's more like cake and three colors of icing with no sprinkles.

    The tennis pundits of the world got together and named Fed the GOAT. Anyone who says anyone else is GOAT is stating an unofficial private opinion...mainly that they have a man-crush on Rafa (in this case).
     
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  3. kishnabe

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    Sorry you are a loser who has no Gold Medals......Tell me when you have a Singles Gold Medal to make fun of a DBLS gold medal.

    Even doubles slam winners aren't losers. Anyone who wins on the biggest stage is not a loser. Only time you are is when you choke badly......or have a snobby attitude like Harrison.
     
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  4. sureshs

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    That would be Nadal who will make fun, not me
     
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  5. baseline_monster

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    I can now see how this guy has made over 20,000 posts! Is this the new fedace?! Is he still on here? I've been away for a few months lol
     
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  6. sureshs

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    Yeah Sentinel is annoying, isn't he?
     
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  7. DRII

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    Fine...

    it still would be better with sprinkles :twisted:

    And I don't give a dam* what the pundits, whose jobs depend on playcating as much as analyzing, say!
     
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  8. zagor

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    But why? I don't care about Olympics that much in general (I barely follow anything there except tennis, I followed basketball back in the day but that's about it) but I'd watch Fed, Novak, Tsonga, Murray etc. play even in a 250 event, just because he tourney isn't that big/important doesn't mean tennis can't still be good.
     
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  9. JustBob

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    If Federer wins gold at the Olympics, will suresh still be in contention for troll GOAT? I don't think so, he'll have to be relegated to second tier troll.
     
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  10. tennisaddict

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    In your opinion if Fed wins London, then is he the GOAT ?
     
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  11. zagor

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    Suresh has already crowned Fed the GOAT when he won Cinci, 3 years ago.
     
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  12. Sid_Vicious

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    I agree. The olympic gold is definitely important to Federer (No matter how much some Fed fans bash the gold medal), Murray, Djokovic, and Tsonga. These guys are all gutting it out for the Gold. It is not a bad event at all. Some guys show up really inspired to play for their country; e.g. Hewitt today.

    There are some entertaining matches going on, no doubt about it. That is a good enough excuse for me to watch the olympics.

    I am actually having a great timing watching Olympic tennis. Last week I watched live garbage straight from Atlanta, where I saw Roddick hit a ton of forehands off the backfoot
     
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  13. Iron Man

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    sureshs threads about Federer are good omen for him
     
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  14. TMF

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    750.

    It takes Olympics gold + atp250 to equal to one Master Series.
     
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  15. Sentinel

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    Where is he, nowadays, fishing ?
     
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  16. JustBob

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    Preparing for the Special Olympics. According to rabid Nadal fans, a wheelchair tennis gold is worth 5000 points.
     
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  17. sureshs

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    Yes he will be the current GOAT. His DC record can be forgiven given his country's lack of talent compared to Spain, and his Slam count will compensate for the H2H against Nadal. There is a solid case for him.
     
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  18. billnepill

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    Who cares?

    It's universally accepted that Federer > Nadal years ago. Now that Nadal is nearly retired and Federer is still winning slams and world number 1, who cares what TTW laughing stock thinks lulz
     
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  19. zagor

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    Well it's hard to resist bashing the gold medal (which Fed does have already even if it's in doubles) when Nadal fans incessantly overhype the thing to high heavens (I mean really, suggesting that it should be worth 3000 points), the main reason being it's one of the few things Nadal won that Fed didn't (of course Fed fans do the same for WTF/YEC).

    Still you're right, it's an entertaining event, the field is quite strong and some of the players are particularly passionate about representing their country at the Olympics.

    Yeah, to be honest, the only reason I'm watching Olympics this year is because of tennis and nothing else, I didn't even watch the opening ceremony (I get bored to tears watching those things).
     
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  20. Sid_Vicious

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    Oh, don't get me wrong. I completely disagree with those people who say it is the most important achievement in Tennis. I am just saying that it has sentimental value for players.


    Your not alone in watching only tennis. I have never watched a Michael Phelps race live. :twisted:

    I just can't be arsed with swimming.
     
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  21. Speranza

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    Holmes: Oh such continually trolling drivel. You will never consider Federer to be that, regardless of him winning the Gold or not.

    However, it sure will bother you if he does, for it is your last dagger so to speak :)
     
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  22. PrinceMoron

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    Could always discuss grass court tennis rather than the Olympics. 13-1 record and counting is nice. Who is better in recent years?
     
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  23. baseline_monster

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    I am actually angry at myself for giving my time to this trolls thread. This forum has so many great people and posts on it, then on the other scale, so many attention seeking idiots!
     
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  24. YellowBall77

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    It's not huge in and of himself, although let's be honest: it would be another minor blemish on an increasing list of blemishes marking player that was once thought to be inevitably the GOAT.
     
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  25. Nostradamus

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    he is Not goat and he won't make the hall of fame
     
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  26. Sartorius

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    What "increasing list of blemishes" are you talking about exactly?

    Oh right, there's that h2h thing.

    Then, of course, there's the h2h thing.

    Ooooh right right, let's not forget the h2h thing.



    Federer actually mentioned before that it's the media who makes up these things and demand a player must do this or that to be considered great. But it's all up in the air.
     
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  27. YellowBall77

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    /??
    also that Novak's 2011 was as good as any years of Fed thing?
     
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  28. NatF

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    Fed had 3 such years though, that's the difference maker.
     
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  29. Sartorius

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    Wow, that's rich. You go chalk up that blemish on your blemish list sir. :D
     
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  30. sportsfan1

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    I agree with you here about the flawed logic of some. Olympics medal = 750 points, and it's touted to be of paramount importance to a career, however, WTF/YEC = 1500 (2xOlympics points), but it's a fall indoor event that doesn't matter? :?
     
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  31. sureshs

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    The weak backhand is another. Forehand shanks are another.
     
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    Oh FFS.

    any all threads of this nature need to be banned, pure trolling.
     
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  33. billnepill

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    If Federer wins Olympics, is Cinci the real Olympics?
     
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  34. Biscuitmcgriddleson

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    "Real Slam" logic at its finest.
     
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    Ask your mother about delivering a joke, she is good at it.
     
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  36. Federererer

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    Yeah but Federer makes up for those shanks by pulling on the FH with his biceps.
     
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  37. sureshs

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    Did you follow the doubles result?
     
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  38. MTF07

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    Bad trolling is just... bad.
     
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  39. Agassifan

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    If Fed does not win this olympics, Nicholas Massu becomes the undisputed GOAT
     
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    Most GS titles
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    5. Jimmy Connors 8
    = Ivan Lendl 8
    = Andre Agassi 8
    8. John McEnroe 7
    = Mats Wilander 7
    10. Stefan Edberg 6
    = Boris Becker 6

    GS finals
    1. Roger Federer 24*
    2. Ivan Lendl 19
    3. Pete Sampras 18
    4. Björn Borg 16
    = Rafael Nadal 16*
    6. Jimmy Connors 15
    = Andre Agassi 15
    8. John McEnroe 11
    = Mats Wilander 11
    = Stefan Edberg 11

    Consecutive GS finals
    1. Roger Federer 10
    2. Roger Federer 8

    3. Rafael Nadal 5
    4. Andre Agassi 4
    = Rod Laver 4
    = Novak Djokovic 4
    7. Jimmy Connors 3
    = Björn Borg 3
    = Björn Borg 3
    = Björn Borg 3
    = Ivan Lendl 3
    = John McEnroe 3
    = Ivan Lendl 3
    = Ivan Lendl 3
    = Mats Wilander 3
    = Jim Courier 3
    = Jim Courier 3
    = Pete Sampras 3
    = Rafael Nadal 3


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    1. Roger Federer 32*
    2. Jimmy Connors 31
    3. Ivan Lendl 28
    4. Andre Agassi 26
    5. Pete Sampras 23
    6. John McEnroe 19
    = Stefan Edberg 19
    8. Boris Becker 18
    9. Björn Borg 17
    = Rafael Nadal 16*

    Consecutive GS semi-finals
    1. Roger Federer 23
    2. Ivan Lendl 10
    3. Novak Djokovic 9*
    4. Ivan Lendl 6
    = Nadal 6
    6. Novak Djokovic 5
    = Boris Becker 5
    8. Roger Federer 4*
    = Rod Laver 4
    = Tony Roche 4
    = John McEnroe 4
    = Andre Agassi 4
    = Jim Courer 4
    = Nadal 4
    = Andy Murray 4

    GS quarter-finals
    1. Jimmy Connors 41
    2. Roger Federer 37*
    3. Agassi 36
    4. Ivan Lendl 34
    5. Pete Sampras 29
    6. John McEnroe 26
    = Stefan Edberg 26
    8. Boris Becker 23
    = Rafael Nadal 23*
    10. Björn Borg 21
    = Novak Djokovic 21*

    Consecutive GS quarter-finals
    1. Roger Federer 33*
    2. Ivan Lendl 14
    3. Novak Djokovic 13*
    4. Rafael Nadal 11
    5. Pete Sampras 10
    6. Ivan Lendl 7
    = Mats Wilander 7
    = Andy Murray 7
    9. Andre Agassi 6
    = Rafael Nadal 6

    All Four Slams Per Year
    Rod Laver 1969

    Three Slams Per Year
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    Mats Wilander 1988
    Roger Federer 2004
    Roger Federer 2006
    Roger Federer 2007

    Rafael Nadal 2010
    Novak Djokovic 2011


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    Roger Federer 2006
    Roger Federer 2007
    Roger Federer 2009

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    Rod Laver 1969
    Ivan Lendl 1987
    Roger Federer 2005
    Roger Federer 2006
    Roger Federer 2007
    Roger Federer 2008
    Roger Federer 2009

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    Most consecutive matches won at one Grand Slam event:
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    2. Roger Federer (Wimbledon), 40
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    2. Stefan Edberg 54
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    8. David Ferrer 39*
    9. Mark Woodforde 37
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    2. Jimmy Connors 233
    3. Andre Agassi 224
    4. Ivan Lendl 222
    5. Pete Sampras 204

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    2. Ivan Lendl 5
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    Most Weeks at #1
    1. Roger Federer 287+*
    2. Pete Sampras 286
    3. Ivan Lendl 270
    4. Jimmy Connors 268
    5. John McEnroe 170
    6. Björn Borg 109
    7. Rafael Nadal 102*
    8. Andre Agassi 101
    9. Lleyton Hewitt 80
    10. Stefan Edberg 72

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    1. Roger Federer (1) 237
    2. Jimmy Connors (1) 160
    3. Ivan Lendl (1) 157
    4. Pete Sampras (1) 102
    5. Jimmy Connors (2) 84
    6. Pete Sampras (2) 82
    7. Ivan Lendl (2) 80
    8. Lleyton Hewitt (1) 75
    9. John McEnroe (1) 58
    10. Rafael Nadal (1) 56

    Year End #1
    1. Sampras 6
    2. Federer 5*
    3. Borg 4
    4. Connors 3
    = Lendl 3
    = McEnroe 3


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    2. Jimmy Connors (1974) .959 93–4
    3. Roger Federer (2005) .953 81–4
    4. Roger Federer (2006) .948 92–5

    5. Björn Borg (1979) .933 84–6
    6. Ivan Lendl (1986) .925 74–6
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    2. Ivan Lendl 94
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    8. Andre Agassi 60
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  41. TennisBatman

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    If Federer doesn't win the singles Gold, two things are guaranteed...

    Many people will still consider him as the greatest.

    He will greatly regret every one of his 2004, 2008, and 2012 (assuming it happens) Olympics losses to seemingly inferior opponents.
     
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  42. timnz

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    So who then?

    I always want to ask this question of people who say that Federer is not GOAT. Alright then, who is? Surely not Nadal who is only dominated (won at least 4 or 5 times) the French Open and non other of the top 5 events (Slams + Year end finals). (Federer has dominated 4 out of 5 of the top 5 events). So who? And if your criteria is that they won every important event (and the Olympics being an 'important event' is dubious), who is the player that has done that? (Agassi didn't win the Grand Slam Cup if you were going to nominate him - and those who think that was just an exhibition - didn't see how hard those guys played it). So who is the GOAT if Federer is definitively isn't?
     
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    Well, we know who wins now
     
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  44. Zarfot Z

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    I beg to differ.

    Unlike a Masters, the 750 points don't have to be defended. That, and the fact that it only takes place every 4 years makes the Olympic gold just as important, if not even more.
     
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  45. Sentinel

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    If Fred does not win, we won't hear the end of it from sureshs and his camp. They will go berserk creating silly threads, of course, sureshs knows how to keep within the rules.

    Oh SNAP !!!!
     
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  46. 6-1 6-3 6-0

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    I doubt Federer will win an Olympic gold medal in singles. He faces John Isner next, who beat Federer indoors in 2012. He can match Federer.
     
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    Right, a tournament that hadn't been played since the 20's, and was brought back in the late 80's, is somehow the determining factor of ones GOATability, obviously *******s are experiencing a lot of butthurt since Rosol crushed their spirits for Wimbledon and the Olympics. I sure hope Rafa comes back soon, I'd hate to think what could happen to all *******s if he doesn't.
     
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    One wonders what kind of threads the venerable OP will create IF Federer does win the Windlebun. I can only predict that logical or sensible or reasonable won't be the first words that will come to mind to describe them.:)
     
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    Daltonism is shockingly widespread on this forum. They just can't see things the way everyone else does. We should all feel sorry for them. It is genetic, it is not their fault.

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    (Medicine) colour blindness, esp the confusion of red and green
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  50. FEDEXP

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    Suresh, you are simply delusional. At first I thought Federer's chances of winning Wimbledom were not very good. And then Federer proclaimed that he would also retake number 1 in the world and I thought that was delusional.

    Not so, around here it's Suresh.
     

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