If Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic Were all the same age.

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Who would be #1 if Federer, Nadal, and Djokovic were 24

  1. Federer

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  2. Nadal

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  3. Djokovic

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  4. All would be number one with the same amount of points

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  1. KyomasaNTH

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    I pose this question because it pais me to hear people say that nadal is better than Fed just because of his head to head with Nadal, and Djokovic is better than both of them. So i pose this question Who would be Number 1 is all of these guys were 24. I say 24 becasue Djokovic is currently 24, And at 24 years of age Both Fed and Nadal won 3 of the 4 grand slams.
    Neither of them is better than the next the fact is when one of them is their best the other isn't, plain and simple. Fed is getting old, and Nadal is falling, and djokoer is rising.



    Reply and say which of the 4 slams would go to who, and why your player of choice would be #1

    Federer - Wimbly, US Open
    Nadal - French
    Djokovic - Australian
     
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  2. phnx90

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    No point adding Rafa to the poll unless it's to do with insulting the guy in this forum.
     
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  3. Evan77

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    I voted Novak because I'm too bored. Why does it matter? It is very difficult to predict a peak of a tennis player. This sport is so brutal. In my honest opinion we are blessed to have top 3 guys.
     
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  4. TennisLovaLova

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    Federer > Nadal > Djokovic
     
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    It's common that the upcoming one developed his game by examining the game of the current best so as to form the game that will beat him. Whereas the game of the current best already reached the mature state. With the older age, the current best's game is therefore harder to change.

    But if they're both at the same age now, Nadal wouldn't have Federer's game as a target game to beat before he reached his own mature game. And Djokovic wouldn't have Nadal and Federer as his target either.
     
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  6. PSNELKE

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    Neither of them could challenge Fed in his prime.

    Fed wins everything except RG which goes to Ralph.
    Though Djokovic makes the final of AO, USO and Ralph the SW19 final.

    Fed > Ralph > Nole
     
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  7. ssonosk

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    man if they were all 24 tennis would be amazing :O
     
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  8. jackson vile

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    Federer would have two top players (Novak, Nadal) that he would be losing to.

    Novak could only lose to Nadal.

    Nadal coudl only lose to Novak.

    But somehow everyone convince themselves that Roger would be #1?
     
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  9. FedererBestTennis

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    Lol did you see Fed play in 2005? What is wrong with you?
     
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  10. Probably not, i think he started to watch tennis in 2008-2009
     
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  11. DjokovicForTheWin

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    He's a bitter ****
     
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  12. FedererBestTennis

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    Probably. I guess he prefers ping pong to tennis, as that is the game Nadal plays.
     
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  13. FedExpress 333

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    Agreed with this poster.
     
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  14. CDestroyer

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    Im just glad to see they are all in the same era.:smile:

    Of course I wouldn't ming if Rafa bowed out like Borg did because he couldn't handle losing.:twisted:
     
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  15. Clay lover

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    Nadal is an early bloomer on Clay and Grass and Fed and Novak are relatively late bloomers on all surfaces. I'd say Nadal will win the first few French opens and maybe 1 or 2 Wimbys whereas Fed would win a few hardcourt slams and 1~2 Wimbys. After that though Novak and Fed would take over with Fed winning most of the grass meetings and about 60% of the hard and clay meetings. Nadal may manage to pull of a slam on any surface if he is lucky.
     
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  16. celoft

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    Federer, of course.
     
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  17. pvaudio

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    It would be the way it's typically been: Federer, Nadal, Djoker, and in that order. Take a prime Federer from a few years ago, and tell me that anyone would have beaten him regularly? Djoker can't beat him now, and Rafa would only win on clay.
     
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  18. glazkovss

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    Agree with you on who would win a certain majors. And Fed would be no. 1 because he would win two of them.
    But Rafa would be no. 1 until 23 of age, challenged by Novak. By the time Novak would find out he needs to cut gluten from his diet, Federer would reach his prime and then dominate everyone for at least 4 years.
    18-23: Nad, Djok, Fed.
    24-27: Fed, Djok, Nad.
    Djokovic would occasionally reach no. 1, but not for long.
     
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  19. juanparty

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    Federer had never had the confidence that he gained from 2003 to 2007 for sure! he never could reach 16 slams! maybe 8 or 9.
     
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  20. TenFanLA

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    Nadal's peak was 2008, Fed's 2005 and Djoko's 2011. Someone else's peak in 2014 will beat Djoko in 2014.
     
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    I think Federer gets to 16 anyway. If he wins less majors in his prime against prime Djokovic/Nadal, he collects more post-prime. Nadal is 25 and he's already fading and I'm more than sure Djokovic won't keep it up until he's 28-30.
     
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  22. Towser83

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    i pretty much agree, i thinks Nadal would take RG and win Wimby before fed, Djoko maybe grabbing a HC major before Federer but then Federer would start to dominate grass and hardcourt with some competition from Novak.

    Fed ends up winning one RG when they are all 25, (2006 Fed - remember Rome that year, vs 2011 Nadal) Novak wins a few after that.
     
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  23. Dark Victory

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    If they were all the same age...

    Federer wins Melbourne, Wimbledon and US OPEN. Often.

    Nadal would still regularly win RG, with Federer perhaps sneaking in one.

    Djokovic probably doesn't win a grand slam title. Not when he is 24 or when he and Federer are both 30.
     
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  24. SStrikerR

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    So you're saying 2010 is part of a weak era, which is why Rafa won 3/4?
     
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  25. Tony48

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    Is this what it has come to? Comforting ourselves with hypotheticals?

    What if Federer never lost a single tennis match, like EVER? Would they name a slam after him? Would we be saying, "In 3 years, do you think Player X can win the Roger Federer?"
     
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  26. NadalAgassi

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    This poll is nothing but a popularity contest so is pointless. Of course on Federer Palace, Federer will easily win the poll.

    On the silly and ridiculous hypothetical it depends what age they are really. From age 18 to 21 Federer isnt even half the player Nadal and to some degree Djokovic were at those ages. We have yet to see Nadal or Djokovic from age 26 and beyond so impossible to say there.

    From age 22 to 26, well Nadal would totally own Federer on clay and isnt losing regularly before finals on other surfaces at those ages like he did while Federer dominated when Nadal was young. So Federer who would have no chance to ever beat Nadal on clay, and has trouble with Nadal on all surfaces, would still have a hard time being #1 even then IMO. Then when you factor in Djokovic as well I am not sure how it all turns out in the big picture.
     
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  27. Murrayfan31

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    Nadal is still in his prime. Thus he would be last in this poll. Djokovic is capable of dominating all surfaces. I put him on top.
     
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  28. veroniquem

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    If they'd been the same age, Fed would never have become #1. He would have been completely dominated by Nadal on slow surfaces and by Djoko and Nadal on fast ones. + he was a late bloomer and Nadal was extremely precocious so during the 17-22 years, he would have been massively outplayed by Rafa while during the 23+ years, he would not have been able to develop his confidence because of Djokovic. One could say Fed owes his prestigious reputation entirely to his age difference with Nadal/Djoko who both are greatly equipped to challenge his playing style, something which Roddick/Davy were vastly incompetent at doing. Lucky him.
     
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    Welcome to the delusional Fed Fanboy Forum ;)
     
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  30. Hitman

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    It would still likely be Federer, Nadal and Djokovic in that order. :)
     
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  31. Rippy

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    Lol what???
     
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  32. tennis_pro

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    It's really sad some people here think Federer wouldn't reach no 1 if he was the same age as Djokovic and Nadal.
     
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  33. celoft

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    Unsurprisingly, Fed is running away with the poll...
     
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  34. Romismak

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    This is verry interresting, but first of all why to chose 24 as age. Look on last year - if this thread was made 1 year ago, and you choosed 24 as criteria, nobody would put Djokovic ahead of NAdal, because Nole was 23 and probably not many people were believing he can improove in 1 year so much. I would make comparision between those 3 players at peak ages - so 24-26 or 23-26 and compare few seasons hypothetically. Also must be said that the age difference between NAdal and Djokovic is not big, so we cal also make thread what if Federer would be 5years younger how would be this season? So it is about Roger to make him younger, because Nole, Rafa are almost the same age.
    So we know how good is Rafa at 24-25, Nole we had clearly in front of our eyes and Federer if he would be younger few years, would have better movements, deffense, better FH and won´t be suh error-machine, but his serve was worse that is fact. So if we compare them each other, hard to say he would be No.1, because it is impossible to tell, but i believe peak Federer is better than both of this guys and would loose only to Rafa on clay. I would say in their age 24-26 or in 3 full season Federer would win most slams, Rafa would probably won 2FO, 1 Fo to Nole and HC Slams between Nole and Roger and Wimbledon probably 2to Roger, 1 Rafa. So generally most slams Roger, than Nole and Rafa about the same, hard to tell.
     
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  35. Hitman

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    Are you referring to the haters? Federer in his prime was Mr Consistent - 23 slam semis, 18 out of 19 finals. He would be deep into every big event. To beat that, Rafa and Novak would have to get that many also and then win on top of that.
     
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  36. Dark Victory

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    As with most long-time followers of the game, I'm not fooled by Djokovic's record this season. He's a top player and is simply hot right now. But that's about it. I don't see him as anything that exceptional.
     
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  37. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Huh? What luck, isn't it that age difference that you tards have been saying for the longest time is in fact Nadal's advantage? That he has 5 years on Fed and WILL pass Federer in achievements. So you just like contradicting yourself, now that you realize Nadal will never come close to Federer achievements despite winning at such an early age AND having a whole 5 years more to compete?
     
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  38. beast of mallorca

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    This thread will go on circles. At the end of the day:

    The fans of Fed will say it's Roger,
    The fans of Rafa will say it's Nadal,
    and the fans of Novak will say it's Djoker.
    I guess we will never know,because it will never happen. End of thread.
     
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  39. Clarky21

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    Care to elaborate on why you don't see him as anything that exceptional?
     
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  40. World Beater

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    It would be very close.

    but federer is just a little too good after the french open for nadal - in terms of POINTS.

    and a little too good for novak after the usopen.

    so fed would be #1.

    But who would end up with more slams??? This is a wash. Fed is the fave at wimby/usopen.

    With nadal at RG. novak is the slight fave at the ausopen.
     
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  41. beast of mallorca

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    Still not a lock that he'll win it. Definitely Rafa will challenge him for the W and Nole for the US open.
     
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  42. World Beater

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    favorite != lock.

    nothing is a lock...thats why they play the game. but the odds are in favor of federer because he has a better record vs the field so far (this could change) than nadal/djoker at these tournaments.

    If wimbledon/usopen were just a faceoff between nadal-fed-djoker...then, yes its a wash.

    But nadal still possibly has to face other guys before he gets to the final of the wimby/usopen...same for djoker at wimbledon/usopen.

    nadal has been impressive at wimbledon though the last couple of years.
     
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  43. Clarky21

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    And Federer doesn't? You make it seem as if he is completely unbeatable.
     
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  44. World Beater

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    LOL.

    Reading comprehension fail?

    where did i say he was unbeatable?

    all i said was that federer had better odds against the field than both djokovic and nadal.

    History says this is correct, but it could change as nadal/djoker have more success at both tournaments.
     
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  45. Clarky21

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    No,I understood perfectly well what you said. You implied that Nadal/Novak would have more trouble making the final while Roger would just skate on through right to it unopposed. That to me makes it sounds like you said he was a lock for the final,no matter who he plays making him unbeatable.
     
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  46. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Data analysis has shown that Nadal is much more likely to lose in the rounds leading up to the final than Federer. That's because Federer is better against the field than Nadal. But once a final is reached, Nadal is very difficult to beat.
     
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  47. Romismak

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    When i look now on votes it is funny, because Federer is for sure not lighting years ahead of Rafa and Nole for sure. I will try to make analysis for all 3 at their peak level - peak season- it is better than age, because not everyone at the same age is best.. So we can assume 2005, 2005 or 2006 as Federer´s best year, Nadal best is 2008 early 09, even that he won 3 slams last year only US open was impressive. Djokovic peak is 2011 for sure - maybe will get better but don´t think so. Most likely he will drop his level, injured, or physically tired, or stay consistent good similar to this level, but there is not much improovement for him or there is not much of higher level for him than right now, if he even will be better than not by much. We have Djokovic in our mind right now, because of his great season, but one think people forgot here, and that even Federer and Nadal at their peaks - or best age-best seasons weren´t best in everything - Federer at his peak had worse serve than he developed after his post-prime and even he is talking in interviews that his technics-strokes are better than before, it is obvious with age he declined in movements, footwork, deffense and his FH hasn´t so much power, accelaration and because of overall speed on the court his timing is worse, so Federer´s peak had better speed-movements, stamina and footwork - because of this he had better FH- better timing and more power, explossivnes and also his deffense was better, because he was quicker. Than we have Nadal- just like Federer, at his peak he wasn´t best in every way. He was better on clay, and didn´t have such great level on HC. But he was quicker, better deffense, mentally stronger. His serve and HC level are better after-peak, because his game developed more to HC style - what is dominant surface and where Nadal play most matches. Djokovic we all see this season. So it is hard to predict who will be No.1, they are by far better than anybody else on the tour at their peaks, so it is hard to predict who will win which tournament, who will have more points than the other 2 guys. But for sure Roger is not so much better- even when he was dominating everybody else - he didn´t beat younger Nadal more than Nadal him- yes there is match-up issue, but still, about Djokovic - 2011 Djokovic will be tough for Roger to beat regularly- who wants to point out on their RG game- Roger played his highest level at post-prime and Nole didn´t played his highest level. It was almost 5 sets, and only Roger´s suprime serve made the difference - peak Federer didn´t have that serve so peak Federer wouldn´t have it much easier with this Nole for sure. About Nadal- with better confidence, better deffense and playing in 2008 form on clay i do believe he beat Djokovic, but didn´t will be so close on HC for sure, because his HC game developed over the years. So Roger, Nole and Rafa would beat each other on different surfaces. No. 1 could be anyone from this guys and slams probably i will say AO-Nole, RG-Rafa, Wimby-US- Roger- but about US there is still chance for Nole, about RG there is chance for Nole too against Rafa. Also Rafa could win AO or Wimby.
     
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  48. cc0509

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    Exactly right. First the *******s say Nadal was too young and inexperienced when he was a teen and beating an in prime Federer on tour and that is why he did not overtake Federer in the rankings at that time. Now that Nadal is 25 and 5 years behind Federer in age Nadal has plenty of time to catch up to many of Federer's records so what is the problem now? Are *******s starting to lose faith in the "clay goat" now and are not so certain he will come close to beating Fed's many records? What happened to their "mental beast?" Hmmmmmmm.
     
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    lol at this thread.
     
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  50. tennis_pro

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    Turns out Nadal's prime was 08/09 when he barely beat an aging, back-ill Federer at Wimbledon and the Australian Open both in 5 sets with Fed having tons of chances to win himself and his clay prime was 2005-2008 when he also struggled against Federer on his worst surface.
     
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