If Golf Majors Used Match Play Format with 7 Rounds....

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  1. JennyS

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    Some argue that since a player has to beat the "entire field" in golf that makes it harder. But the non elimination also allows players to have a mediocre round and still recover.

    If the Golf Majors were formatted like Golf tournaments and had 7 rounds of head to head play, anyone else think Tiger would have FEWER majors? I do. Obviously it would still not be true head to head, they'd still be playing the golf course. But they would still face elimination in every golf round, which is what I think makes tennis majors (and heck, every tournament outside the Masters Cup) so hard to win.

    Win and you're out week in and week out is pretty tough.
     
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  2. S H O W S T O P P E R !

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    How does this relate to pro tennis?
     
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  3. JennyS

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    I was asking if golf tournaments were formatted like tennis tournament would they be harder to win?
     
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    TIger and Roger's accomplishments are often compared
     
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    Well.

    Did a quick search for some statistics on match play winning percentages. This is the best I could find:

    http://www.pgatour.com/2008/tournaments/r470/02/11/records/index.html

    Probably out of date, but let's assume that Tiger has a 80% win percentage in match play. Sounds impressive, right?

    So now let's do some math: Assuming he has a constant 0.8 chance of winning each match, his chance of winning 7 in a row is 0.8 to the power of 7, which is 0.21. Let's call it 1 in 5 to make it easy.

    Based on this rough calculation, he would have to play in 75 majors in order to win 15, if majors were 7 rounds of match play.

    Looking at it another way: Federer has won 15 slams out of 41 times he has appeared in the draw, a ratio of about 0.37, or 1 in 2.75. So Federer is almost twice as likely to win any given slam as Tiger is to win 7 golf match play rounds in a row.
     
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  6. clayman2000

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    Ya but the only golf tourneys with match play are: WGC, Ryder Cup and Pres Cup. Now the Pres Cup and Ryder Cup only include a select group of players from the world. the WCG is the only PGA golf tourney. Tigers won it 3 times

    So hard to compare
     
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    Yes, agree it's hard to compare. But the stats I quoted are from WGC only. Take with a pinch of salt but I can't find a more objective way to compare.
     
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  8. JennyS

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    Very interesting, thanks for posting!
     
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    Thats the point, you cant make it objective.

    Now the arguments are simple: tennis is harder to become good at, but golf is harder to dominate at.
     
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  10. フェデラー

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    Do you even play golf? Golf is easily 10x harder than tennis. There is so much technicality to it that far surpasses tennis.
     
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  11. clayman2000

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    What i mean is that tennis requires so many different aspects of training. You must be fit as a hockey player, as fast as a runningback, as co-ordinated as a baseball player.

    Golf is hard too, but while training, you can really just focus on your driving and putting.

    While i do not play golf regularly, i have played golf.
     
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  12. ChanceEncounter

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    You don't need to be as fast as a runningback (in fact, I doubt you can find any professional tennis player as fast as the faster runningbacks in the NFL) or as coordinated as a baseball player. A little bit of hyperbole there.
     
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