if i learn from watching videos of pros which pros should i watch for each shot?

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  1. zanabel

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    which pros should i watch to learn the best serve, forehand, backhand, nets, feetwork, smashing etc.?

    i began tennis this year but people say i have mad potential, so best to use it by learning the right styles from pros.
     
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    Federer for everything!~
     
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    i do not know how to use my right hand..
     
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    Then you must use Nadal as he is left handed :twisted:
     
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    good idea! he always is in the big matches
     
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    zan, just try to be yourself, use your instincts ... forget about Fed, Djoko or whoever ... you'll never be like them ... I've watched and played tennis for many years (I suck at playing tho, just a recreational thing)... you can watch as many tennis videos on u tube, you'll probably just get confused. follow your own path. don't try to copy anybody ... again be yourself ... Djoko and Roger are like 2 in billions

    how well do you move? what's your level right now? there is a good site you can actually learn. it's ******* me off that I cant use the link, because TW is blocking it (let's try this again ... google 'tenn!s for you" great info there. I assume you are very young, and you can really learn from other guys there. I wish you luck.
     
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  7. jwjh

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    You do not need to be right handed to copy what right handers are doing. Just do everything in the opposite manner or just flip the video horizontally. If you really want a lefty to copy, go with Verdasco's strokes.
     
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    my coach is giving me free lessons because i live next door to him so maybe i should just copy him i guess.

    thanks! that site has 105 tennis drills, thanks for showing me that :D
     
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    i tried to flip the video but its impossible.

    ok verdasco has clear shots, good :)
     
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    As a lefty, I've had no problem learning from either righty or lefty coaches and models. Most lefties that I've come across have this ability -- very few problems learning from a righty. I'm surprised that you do. Just think of a righty model as a mirror image.

    Don't think that I'd use Rafa as a model for the FH -- straight arm is not for everyone and he hits way too many reverse finishes for players trying to learn the game. However, if you want to develop a 2-handed BH, his is decent. I would also look at Safin and Nalbandian for the 2-hander. My next choices would include Murray, Djokovic and Agassi.

    For the serve, look primarily at Federer. You can supplement this with Nadal and Verdasco as models to figure out the lefty mechanics.

    For the forehand, take a look at Federer again. However, his straight-arm technique, like Nadals's, is not for most players. Other aspects of Roger's FH as a modle are great tho'. Take a look at Andre Agassi for a FH with a double bend and a compact backswing. You might go with a steeper forward swingpath for more topspin tho'.

    Can't beat Federer for footwork -- very smooth, efficient and effective.
     
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    Yep I like the 2 hands, Nadal or Agassi probably. They both take lots of small footsteps too which I like :)
     
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    I personally copied all aspects of technique from Murray, I'm a lefty.

    I find Murray's technique extremely basic, and thus easy to model after. I'm also surprised you have trouble copying or learning from righties. If it helps, you can also mirror-image youtube videos through free video-editing software.

    However, for the serve, I'm certain you should try for Federer. He has a very efficient, clean looking serve out of other people on the tour.
     
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    If you have talent I recommend Rodge, If you have a good head on your shoulders but not muscular I recommend Simon. If you have muscle only I recommend Nadal and then hire a head to sit on the courtside.
     
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    me too i like murray serve the most so i might try the video editing software :)
     
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  15. muddlehead

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    right handed serve michael stich
     
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    only thing i dont like is federer keeps hitting it out of bounds when i see him play and i hate when i do that so maybe he has the same problems as me :(
     
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    i have not seen michael stich but i only just joined tennis.
     
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    To each his own. Although, I will never understand people that advice you not to copy pros and develop your own game. It sounds great, but when you are in such awe of these guys, it becomes difficult to take some shots out of your mind. I still remember how I watched the Australian Open a few years ago, then went on court that evening and tried to serve exactly like Tsonga.

    Personally, my forehand is modeled (if that is a better word for copy) on Berdych - his forehand is probably not as good as Del Potro's, let alone the great Federer, but it suits my game since I do not have Federer's insane ability to get into correct position before almost every single shot. For the backhand, I modelled mine on Federer's - I have a 1HBH and it is but a tiny lot to choose from. My serve is all Agassi - yup, you guessed it. I am a poor poor serve. LOL
     
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    but who do you copy? I'm not saying, don't watch tennis at all, I'm saying that he should work on his own game with his trainer. I don't think it's a good idea to over analyze everything. It's like you want Novak's movement, Rog's FH, Novak's BH,, Rog's tennis inteligence, Ivo's serve ... Nadal's buttpicking skills (sorry couldn't help it, lol)
     
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    Are you a female, OP? Have any favorite female players?
     
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    You should try watching female players instead. It is a good amount closer to the rec player.

    Stosur for serve :)
     
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    female. but i have no favorite but my coach has a hingis poster in his room so maybe i can watch her :)
     
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    i live in melbourne so good idea!
     
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    Everyone has different styles, there's no CORRECT WAY to hit the ball, but the best known techniques in a scientific sense...

    Forehand: Roger
    Backhand 1 hand: Wawrinka, Gasquet, Federer
    Backhand 2 hand: Nalbandian, Murray, Safin

    Volleys: Federer, Sampras

    Serve: Depends on what motion you have

    Abbreviated: Roddick, Monfils
    Staggard: Tsonga, Djokovic
    Classic: Federer, Sampras,
     
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    i bend my legs a lot so whoever bends there legs the most i guess is my serve.
     
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    Stossur has a very good serve. However, she has an unusual finish:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvrFuCEJPJQ&t=18s

    Try Molik, Kirilenko or Maria Sharapova for a pinpoint-stance serve:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV1iVOc0-eI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Am6Tzyo40Zw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjt9K_iEC2U

    I would not suggest Sharapova's super-high toss. However, you can see easily see many of the important mechanics of the serve motion from watching her serve. I like Kirilenko's relatively simple racket takeback. For a variation of this try this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixx-MCC7D88


    For a simple platform stance serve motion, I'd still go with Federer.
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    Back to the OP, I have always thought that Serena Williams has textbook strokes worth to copy.
     
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    ^ Yes, very good serve and stroke mechanics from Serena. However, she hits a lot more open-stance backhands than I would suggest. Wait til you are more advanced to hit open stance of the BH side.
     
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    i agree with you. murray is one of the best to copy in terms of "modern technique", for both FH and BH. of course federer is awesome, but as some of the folks have pointed out, he is really one in a few billion. the things he can do with a racket are really really hard to emulate. like an unmoving head. or the straight arm etc. he isn't human frankly -- it probably isn't the best to try to copy him.

    similarly, nadal's strokes are also difficult to copy -- it really requires extraordinary muscular strength particularly in the forearm and shoulder to do the type of strokes he is doing. again not recommended.

    murray is a good model. nalbandian has very good simple strokes too which are good to copy.
     
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  30. BigForehand

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    hold on, how old are you?

    if you're a kid I wouldn't try to copy the pros just yet...
     
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    I agree that Murray and Nalbandian are good models to emulate.

    While I would not recommend the straight-arm forehand of Federer and Nadal, I strongly believe that keeping the head very still during the forward swing of the FH is something that every player should copy. Federer and Nadal are the best examples of this. Murray does it sometimes, especially on low shots. However, there are too many videos of him moving his head (and gaze control) too early.
     
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    serena is really slick good idea :)
     
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    I still think it is how you feel comfortable with your shots: if you have a good serve then get that going really well and also decide which are your weakest shots. Then you can practise, practise, until you get better, because your weakest shots will always let you down. With me it's my backhand and I should practise much more than I do and it would give me more confidence. Federer has fantastic style and he is probably the best all rounder - also a lot of the French players.
     
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    ok but my coach said 2 hands is better than 1.
     
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    I know that is what all the coaches say now but I learned to play one handed and it works better for me because I cannot keep the two hander going so well. I still like the one handed look of the back hand but again it's what you feel most comfortable with
     
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    so youre a 15 year old girl, huh?

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    The 2-hander is fine. Be sure that you also learn a 1-handed slice BH. It is great for spin variety. It also has a wider range for contact. It is often used when jammed or when you are not in an optimal position to hit with 2 hands. It should also be better for drop shots and better for developing a 1-handed BH volley (when needed).

    You can try a 1-handed topspin BH some time down the road (but not til after you've mastered the slice BH with an early contact).
     
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    Forehand - Verdasco
    1HBH - Wawrinka
    2HBH - Nalby
    Serve - Federer/Sampras
    Volley - Edberg
     
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    so far i only have hit the backhand with 2 hands but i will try one hand to see if i am good at it. maybe i should try for week or more to see how good i can be with one hand and then go back to 2 hands if i think 2 is easier :)
     
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    thanks i saved that picture :)
     
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    slice backhand is useful because of drop shots. drop shots are very useful so i will try slice a lot now :)
     
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    Personally, I would say it's best to develop your own style (although this is coming from someone who's built his game to resemble Wawrinka). I would say, however, that if you were to copy a serve, Verdasco has a solid lefty serve in terms of placement and disguise. It wouldn't be a bad idea to see some footage of him serving if you want tips on how to effectively utilize a lefty serve.
     
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    I remember I used to switch to a one-handed backhand when I was a kid because I couldn't hit it DTL with a double hander no matter how hard I tried. Ironically, that completely self-taught backhand is probably my best stroke, maybe on par with the forehand if it's on.
     
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    thanks, i saw wawrinka and he is really good to watch.
    edberg i just did a youtube search of and he looks really perfect at moving, good to watch his net play for sure.
    not sure of nalby never seen him.
     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XphTboHQLtA

    Nalbandian has a textbook two handed backhand. It's one of the best along with the likes of Safin and Agassi.
     
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    verdasco has really good fashion sense and is left-handed, both things like me lol, thanks i'll use his videos the most i think.
     
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    it realy depends what you feel comfortable with

    with a 1-handed backhand you got a wider reach, better slice, drop shots but you need more power to generate some serious speed, also it's harder to control

    a 2-handed backhand is just more solid all-round


    if youre seriously thinking about turning pro in the future or having any career, Id recommend the 2-handed backhand, if its just for fun it doesnt really matter
     
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