If Nadal wins RG and Wimbledon, is Fed record threatened?

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If Nadal wins the next 2 slams, will Federer's slam record be in danger?

  1. Yes, Nadal could win at least 4 slams after that

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  2. No way, Nadal would fall short of his goal

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  1. DropShotArtist

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    Well if he can improve his stamina and be more consistent, sure. Don't forget he beat a very in form Fed at USO2009. As for the very knowledgeable poster above me, do keep in mind he predicted that Djokovic would NEVER win Wimbledon :). We all know how that turned out. ;)
     
  2. sbengte

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    We've heard this for the last 5 years and I am sure we'll continue to hear it for another 5 years while Nadal continues to rack up slams.
     
  3. Hitman

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    Yep. Nadal at the moment is showing no signs of slowing down. He look fantastic in his last few showings.
     
  4. Fiji

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    Nah, final slam tally:

    Federer: 18
    Nadal: 13
    Djokovic: 10
    Murray: 4
    Del Potro: 2
     
  5. Messarger

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    I like how some of us are predicting something so uncertain, yet sound as if it's a forgone conclusion. Nadal could over take Federer's major count, but there are many things that will prevent him from doing so.

    Namely, his knees. How many more 7 months can he afford to rest away? Also, there is a possibility of someone in their early twenties (Tomic's generation) who suddenly find their form in the next 1-2 years and start troubling Nadal and his generation. So it's not only Djokovic and Murray, but another group of players that serve as an obstacle for Nadal to rack up more majors.

    Of course, if he could dominate for two years straight instead of alternate year domination (2008 ) and (2010), his chances will improve significantly.
     
  6. jrs

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    If his knees hold up - should be able to do it. French & Wimbledon are his best chances. Australian and US would be much tougher.
     
  7. ultradr

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    +1.

    He could easily surpass 17 if his knees are ok. Current tour condition is
    friendly to older player.
    This is really possible condition for 20+ slams.

    But you know... knee problems usually do not go away. It often worsen.
     
  8. Joseph L. Barrow

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    It seems the prevailing opinion on this subject shifts radically every time Nadal has a good or bad turn of fortune. When he has a brief downturn, half the forum jumps to the conclusion that he will never win another Major; when he has a brief upswing, half the forum decides he's liable to exceed Federer's all-time Grand Slam record.

    Just as I was already saying before Nadal's comeback, I think he will win 2-4 more Major titles. No more than 15 total for his career.
     
  9. moonballs

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    No way Nadal 20. Most likely he get 3 more FO before age 30 and nothing after. I give him one win in Wimbledon. If he does achieve 15 and Fed stays at 17, then Nadal's success in all surfaces and his h2h over Fed will be much more persuasive for his as a contender of the GOAT.

    Federer: 19
    Djokovic: 12
    Nadal: 15
    Del-Potro: 3
    Murray: 3
     
  10. wilson_nxt

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    6 more slams is a really tough shout.
     
  11. Dark Magician

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    My personal view is that if he achieves 13 slams by the end of this year, then he can finish with 17 slams. But if he doesnt equal Pete's record by the end of RG2014, he will just end up with 15, leaving pete behind.
     
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  12. Ehh

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    Why are you predicting Djokovic will win so many more slams than Nadal? They are basically the same age. Nadal's time out has given him a fresh start.

    They will split slams fairly equally between them for the next half decade, if not Nadal winning more than Djokovic, since he has recently turned the H2H momentum in his favor.

    Basically, for the next 5 years (20 slams), I think no-one but Nadal and Djokovic will win slams, and Nadal may win more of those 20 slams than Djokovic, meaning Nadal will get to 20 or more, and Djokovic will probably get close to 15 as well.
     
  13. Steve0904

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    These predictions are way too high IMO. If Djokovic got to 15 slams and Nadal got to 20 I would be absolutely shocked. And until Nadal beats Djokovic off clay he hasn't turned anything around. It's like Federer beating Nadal on indoor HC. Even though Nadal has a dominant H2H you expect Fed to beat him on indoor HC.
     
  14. firepanda

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    If Nadal turns into a clay courter, he probably won't beat Federer.
    If he just gives up on the hard he might. I think this is his best hope: just focus on Wimby and RG.
    He can probably pull off another hard court slam, but I doubt his knees will hold up.

    Meanwhile, Djokovic is going to beat both of them, of course. :)
     
  15. bullfan

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    I actually don't agree. I don't think that Nadal had the whole enchillada as a goal. I think he wanted all the titles, but his legacy will last in Clay. Should he win 1-3 more FO, it will be a shock for someone to surpass that.
     
  16. TMF

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    I would be shocked too if only Nole and Nadal takes the next 20 slams.
     
  17. VAMOSDNA

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    My point is, what if Nadal is beaten before the Final? Then Federer wins the slam. So if we're talking strictly about how to prevent Federer winning slams, the key factor would be that Nadal plays Federer as early as possible (because if they are drawn to collide in the final, someone may take out Nadal and prevent the meeting). Not saying its likely that someone would beat Nadal before the final, but just saying its much safer if Nadal and Federer meet at QF or SF, to make sure Federer doesn't win the slam.
     
  18. Hitman

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    I think Nole and Rafa would be shocked also if such an absurd prediction comes true.
     
  19. VAMOSDNA

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    Djokovic has looked shaky at the Australian Open the last 2 years (the 12-10 fifth set this year vs Waw, and the 6 hour final last year vs Nadal). I think Murray is going to win more slams than Djokvoic in future. Murray and Nadal will dominate the coming years.
     

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