If there was an indoor grand slam would nadal still dominate Federer?

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  1. ZeroSkid

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    If there was an indoor grand slam would nadal still dominate Federer? I would say definitely, when it comes to the big events nadal has that extra gear to beat Federer, regardless of the surface.
     
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    Would also like the point out that h2h in slams is 8-2.
     
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    Would Nadal make it to even face Federer?
     
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    Maybe they should play on the moon in spacesuits?
     
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  5. Devilito

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    the real answer
     
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    I don't think indoor hardcourts are that bad for Nadal's game. He doesn't win indoors because he puts all his energy into winning Slams and the claycourt season. If there was an indoor hardcourt Slam, Nadal would have won it by now.
     
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  7. Russeljones

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    2nd round tops in an indoor slam for Nadal.
     
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  8. ZeroSkid

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    Unless his knees stop him, I would say it is Federer who needs to make it to the finals
     
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    No, it's not. It's 8-2.
     
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    Hmm. Very slow high-bouncing surface you can slide on but is also quite slippery lol.
     
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    It's 8-2, but it should be 9-2 come US Open. :D
     
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    Some logic has been found despite the influence from *******s
     
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    If Nadal can't even beat the lesser players on indoor, I don't see him making the final much less having a chance to face Roger.
     
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    The thing about indoors is that while it doesn't necessarily hinder Nadal's game, it makes his opponents more comfortable in going for their shots. To beat Nadal, you need to be fully aggressive in your approach to the match. It's easier to do that when the conditions aren't present. More players would feel comfortable playing against Nadal indoors as his defense wouldn't be as impenetrable as it would be outdoors.
     
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    omg such a crucial mistake, now things look a lot different lol
     
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  16. tudwell

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    If I said Federer led Nadal 3-1 at Wimbledon, people would correct me. 8-2 is not even an obscure statistic, and it's an easy one to look up on the ATP website.
     
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    They do. It just prooves that H2H is totally irrelevant when even a **** on a trolling rampage can't get his numbers right. :mrgreen:
     
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    you do realize the last time they played indoors Fed BAGELED Nadal
     
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    Fed is 4-0 against Nadal in the indoor grand slam aka WTF/YEC/Masters Cup.:)
     
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    He only won one set against an almost granpa 29 year old Federer.

    Maybe he will beat Federer in indoors when Federer is 33.
     
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    I think that if Federer holds the No. 1 ranking after the US Open, he will go on a tear during the indoor season looking to end the year ranked No. 1. I fully expect him to win the WTF again, so I don't think Nadal would gain any ground against Federer should they meet there again this year.
     
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    Absolutely.

    Only thing Federer is better than Nadal at is performing ballet and collecting man bags.
     
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    sorry but I am not trolling, just proving that nadal can beat Federer and is better than Federer
     
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    Would Nadal even be ranked high enough to ensure against a 1st round clash with Federer?
     
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    This is the funniest thing I have read all day :)
     
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    I see everyone is using examples outside grand-slams that have fast courts, well let me tell you nadal has won the most important fast courts surface outside the slams, the Beijing Olympics singles gold medal, Federer, nope.
     
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    anything that goes against a *******s logic, their h2h is the funniest thing in tennis history
     
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    Why can't you support your favourite player without antagonizing those who support someone else?
     
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    Yes, Nadal's pitiful 0-4 record against Federer at the WTF proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt. :oops: :roll:

    And, yes, the WTF is a VERY big event. Every match is against a Top 8 player. It used to be more important than both the French and Australian Opens.
     
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    I think that is the question that should be given to all the Fedtars, they started the war, nadal and his fans will finish it
     
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    well now it is not so important, half the guys are out of gas or injured by that time of the year, last year was a perfect example, nole and rafa had nothing left in the tank, another was injured can't remember who, maybe it was murray, it was a joke, then Federer goes onto win and everyone in this forum makes it seem like the greatest title ever lol, it is a joke compared to the olympics.
     
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  32. merlinpinpin

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    Good thing for you you didn't write "it is a joke compared to Wimbledon". :mrgreen:

    Of course, writing "the olympics" shows that you don't know squat about tennis--but hey, that's fine, we already knew that anyway.
     
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    His knees are named Rosol, Gonzalez, Muller...?
     
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    Please! Olympic tennis is only considered something of importance (kind of) NOW because Nadal has something Federer doesn't. The format of the Olympics makes it only slightly more difficult to win than a MS1000 event and, in reality, you could win the event without having to face one Top 8 player. The difference which makes the Olympics prestigious is that athletes are competing against people and teams they wouldn't normally play against. The field is much different from what those athletes are normally used to. For many, they're representing their country for the first time. In tennis, this is the norm. The Olympics doesn't feature any different kind of a field than a slam or a Masters; it's simply another event on the calendar.
     
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    not to mention the field is arbitrary depending on what players the country lets even participate in the games.
     
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    Where have you proved anything? LOL

    Do you know what a "proof" even is?
     
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  37. ZeroSkid

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    8-2 h2h.........
     
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    17-11..........
     
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    Yes, and what does this prove?

    Again, do you know what a proof is?
     
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    Really OP? Get real. It's indoors. 6-3 3-6 6-1 and 6-3 6-0
     
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  41. ZeroSkid

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    no we have a sore loser here, lol
     
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    Probably not.

    Nadal is oviously dominant on the slower surfaces of FO and AO.

    On the faster surfaces - well, no h2h at USO, and Nadal is 1-2 at Wimby.

    Closest we have to indoor GS is WTF, and Nadal has fared poorly there. Partly because of the surface, and partly because of it being scheduled at the end of the year.

    For the sake of argument, let's say AO and WTF were switched around in terms of schedule, and in terms of slam status. How would Nadal do against Fed at the beginning of the year on WTF courts with it having slam status? Well, I think he would do better than his record at WTF suggests, but Federer would still have the edge. Nadal would certainly not "dominate".
     
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    Then you've just also "proved" that Rosol is better than Nadal, that Davydenko is better than Nadal, etc. :oops:
     
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    As much butthurt as Federer is over Nadal. With the roof closed at Wimbledon Fed would have a good chance to beat ******. With the roof open all bets are off.
     
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    That would not change because Nads would never give Feds the chance to change it by "loosing" early... Ala USO
     
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    last time i checked rosol has no slams, or considered to be an all time great, sometimes you need to think a little lol
     
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    How about Rosol slam record of 1-0?
     
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    All of those were played outside. There's nothing to indicate that Nadal would beat Federer at an indoor slam, since he's 0-4 against Federer indoors and has only won a single set.
     
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