If there was an indoor grand slam would nadal still dominate Federer?

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  1. ZeroSkid

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    So everyone agree that nadal would still spank federer indoors if it is a grandslam
     
  2. Towser83

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    stupid statement based on history. Btw when are we even talking about? now with mid 20s nadal facing 31 year old federer? how nice.

    How about Federer vs Nadal on indoor hardcourt 2005 - 2012?

    What's funny is even on a surface/conditions where Fed does actually own Nadal, you're trying to claim otherwise. That's like saying if RG was on blue clay, federer would have 6 and Nadal none :lol:
     
  3. kishnabe

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    Nadal spanked Federer when it was Clay even with 1000 points.....why did he not spank Federer when the YEC is 1500 Points.


    More points, No? Bigger Event, No? More Prestige than Non Mandatory Monte Carlo, No?

    If it was a Grand Slam..they would change the Indoor Hardcourt to a slow high bouncing court so Rafer can get to the final, and they can make more money from all the unsatisfied women out there, huh!
     
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    but their hardcourt matches date back to 2004. Their hardcourt slam matches date back to 2009. Til 2009 the only 5 set hardcourt match Federer won in slow Miami. So the stats don't quite tell the whole story. Fed got a shot at Nadal indoors in 2006 and 2007 and won both times, never got a shot at the US Open to this day, never got a shot at The AO.

    Hence Fed had the chance on hardcourt when he had the upperhand and scored some wins, but never played nadal at a HC slam til Nadal had the advantage of form.

    Also as people say when it suits them, overall Nadal leads in the outdoor hard H2H in best of 3 as well as best of 5.
     
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    Why?

    Why would you think that? Nadal indoor record is relatively poor, whereas federer indoor record is far and away the best of any active player. Remember indoor is nadals weakest surface/conditions , like clay is federer's weakest surface.
     
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    I know that Rafa has made the two previous WTF finals but it seems doubtful that he could have made enough slam finals on indoor surfaces, when most everyone raises his level of play because the money is so good and the field is so much larger, to catch enough beatdowns for the confidence needle to have swung back in Roger's favor. I have a hard time imagining Rafa could consistently represent himself well on any surface that did not take and amplify his spin given these days how much of a whiner he has become when a surface doesn't suit his game.
     
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    Only 1 final not two

    Nadal's only made 1 final (2010 losing to Federer) in the 7 years he has qualified.

    I think he could win it, but it wont be easy. Hence to think he would have a dominate record against federer - well its ill advised.
     
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    Thank you for the correction, yeah I wasn't sure about that, to tell you the truth. :)
     
  9. ZeroSkid

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    totally different since it would be a slam and best of five
     
  10. Povl Carstensen

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    No you do not, its that simple.
     
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    fed is the best indoor player in the history of the game. He would win straights maybe giving nadal 4 games in total
     
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    Nalbandian is better indoors than federer and nadal can beat federer on any surface if it is a slam
     
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    4:0 clearly suggests that lol

    Btw, not recovered from sweet 17 yet? Haha
     
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    that means nothing because in slams it is best of five, 8-2 h2h lol
     
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    yeah Nadal can handle Fed in slams, but Nadal can't handle Rosol, LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
     
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    Why make a thread with a question, answer it yourself then troll every response you disagree with? Bored much?
     
  17. Povl Carstensen

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    Federer is 10-3 against Nalbandian. True he is 0-1 on carpet, but to say Nalbandians indoor record is better than Federers is a joke.
     
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    10-3?? He is 5-4 or something like that, I don't remember exactly which tournaments were played indoors but no way it's 10-3.
     
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    Can't these guys get it? :confused: Whatever Nadal wins is important, what ever Federer wins is insignificant and anyway has only happened due to lucky circumstances.
    When Federer was dominating, it was a really weak area (before the messiahs aka Nadals rise), and now Nadal is injured and not fit, djokovic had too many points to defend this year and the rest of the field is weak, hence out of sheer luck Fed won Wimby and went back to No. 1!
    Why is it so difficult? :| or maybe it is not :)
     
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    this comment is a joke, it is not 10-3, are you high, Nalbandian had a wining record against Fed till he got injured and he has owned him indoors, in fact federer has only beaten nalbandian once indoors where as nalbandian has beaten federer 3 or 4 time indoors, thanks for showing your expert knowledge
     
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    Fixed for you :)
     
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    ignorance at it's finest, not to mention biased lol
     
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    Why does anyone reply to ZeroSkid?
     
  24. ZeroSkid

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    why are you so ignorant
     
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    This message is hidden because ZeroSkid is on your ignore list.
     
  26. merlinpinpin

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    It's 11-8, actually (5-3 indoor). ;)

    As to Nalbandian being better than Federer indoor, yeah, sure, and Rosol is obviously better than Nadal on all surfaces, clay included... :roll:
     
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    But was any of it played indoors? Also, Federer has beaten Nadal at a GS whereas Nadal has struggled to win a set in 4 matches let alone 3.
     
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    Honestly, Nadal might be able to adjust over best of 5 and try harder to hone his game if there was a slam on that surface. I say its 50/50
     
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    Sorry, took it from here, http://tennis.wettpoint.com/en/h2h/14654-14620.html, my mistake... But cool that Federer is 5-3 indoor.
     
  30. YellowBall77

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    Thats pretty poor actually. Its worse than I expected, considering its supposedly where he can dominate Nadal, the last refuge if you will.
     
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    Ehm, you do realize Nalbandian is a terrific player indoors? Not to mention that whatever Fed's record is against Nalbandian has nothing to do with Fed's record against Nadal indoors, two different match-ups.

    Let's see, Nadal and Fed faced off 4 times indoors, Nadal won one set combined (in the best year of his career, 2010) and got fed two breadsticks and one bagel in the process.

    Now that's one heck of a "supposed" domination, isn't it?
     
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    If the surface is high-bouncing, if he is 100% healthy, ready and in the zone, yes. Otherwise, no. BTW they used to have indoor clay in the good old days.
     
  33. scineram

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    Yes. Nadal would never make the final.
     
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    When do you think tennis competition possibly started?

    How many fast supreme indoor events are played nowadays? wait, here is the answer....0
     
  35. Start da Game

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    depends on when you conduct the slam in the calender.......contrary to the popular belief, the problem for nadal at indoor tournaments is not really "indoors" but rather the timing of the events.......he is just not the same player after the us open.......

    there is no surface or no conditions which nadal couldn't adapt in his career.......even being jaded for most indoor events, he still has one indoor title which he won in 2005 and quite a few finals......
     

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