"I'll say it right here, right now, Nadal will finish the year as number 1"

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  1. ninman

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    Those are the words of Brad Gilbert, I bet he's wishing he hadn't said it now eh?
     
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  2. Marius_Hancu

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    I think you have a good memory.

    Brad was fired by Agassi for NOT leading him to victory against Sampras in the 2001 USO QF and other reasons, more difficult to fathom by outsiders.

    Who will fire him now? Probably just some of us here.

    He's enconsced in a good position with the LTA and he can pontificate whatever he wants, but I don't see the results on court.
     
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  3. West Coast Ace

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    BG says things just to stir the pot. I'd rather have someone say something controversial occasionally than have someone pick favorites and kiss rear all the time - e.g. PMac.
     
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  4. Rhino

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    He might not even finish at number 2.
     
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  5. ____

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    Couldn't agree more:)
     
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  6. Sliceboy2

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    What year Brad is talking about? The battle is not in the number 1 spot.
     
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  7. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    I think he made that comment around the same time he picked Rafa to win Wimbledon.
     
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  8. lambielspins

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    Brad Gilbert has his head so far up Rafa's butt I am surprised he can see straight. The worst thing about Nadal surviving those 5 setters vs Soderling and Youzhny and making the Wimbledon final, is not so much that Nadal made the final, but that Brad did not have to eat as big a plate of crow as he deserved to. Of course he said before both matches that neither player were any opposition for Nadal, and both nearly beat him. I wonder if he tells Murray to tank when he plays Nadal, so his precious baby boy wont have anything taken out of him.
     
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  9. caulcano

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    He'll just make up more excuses or backtrack instead. Or make another ignorable prediction.
     
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  10. lambielspins

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    I hope he is always coaching so nobody has to listen to his dumb ass commentary in ESPN's funny farm crew again.
     
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  11. armand

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    Gilbert is a shrewd business man and knows that it's not a good thing for a sport when one man dominates and there isn't much competition. He's just backing Rafa, trying to make him known so people will watch him and take notice of his often spectacular abilities and possibly cheer him on when Federer's on the other side

    Yeah maybe he's in love with Rafa, but that's for the courts to judge
     
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  12. forzainter

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    yes, that mus tbe the case, thats why Murray poushed Nadal to a 5 setter at the australian open (the only proffessional time they have played), so he could take nothing out of him.:rolleyes:
     
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  13. federerfanatic

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    Unfortunately his undying devotion to Rafa has the opposite effect. People are repelled against him that much more.
     
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  14. johnny ballgame

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    Indeed. Not gonna happen this year, but taking over the #1 spot could have very easily been a lot closer.

    Rafa was up a break in the 5th set of the Wimbledon final.

    Rafa's results might have been different if he was healthier at Cincy and the USO. Not saying he would have won, but surely he would have advanced past the second round in Cincy.

    It would take a small miracle, but Rafa is not mathematically out of reaching #1 this year.
     
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  15. MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

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    Rafa wasn't up a break in the final set, but he had a handful of breakpoint chances in Federer's first 3 service games in the 5th.
     
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  16. CEvertFan

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    Nadal won't be taking the top spot this year, that's for sure. Maybe BG can see into the future and he meant in 2009. ;)
     
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    is that why Rafa is always picking his butt? He's trying to get Brad out?
     
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  18. Silent

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    I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic
     
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  19. johnny ballgame

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    Yep, my bad.

    15-40 in two different games.
     
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    How would a coach lead Agassi to beating Sampras; what was it that Gilbert didn't do? Is it some type of an easy task that Gilbert should've done, but didn't?
     
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    And Federer had like 1000 break points against Rafe in French Open. The result "might have been different" and this #1 competition nonsense will not be even mentioned.
     
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  22. johnny ballgame

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    I'm sure we can all agree that the Wimbledon final was MUCH closer than the Roland Garros final.
     
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  23. FEDEXP

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    And that proves what?
     
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  24. tennispro11

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    Brad Gilbert is just trying to stir the pot like he always is. It's good for tennis. It it turns peoples head and makes them notice it, so much the better. :)
     
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  25. ninman

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    He keeps going on about how Nadal is "nothing but class". So THAT'S why he takes 30 seconds between points, and receives coaching from the stands.
     
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    When Gilbert said that in Rome, a lot of people thought the same, but they were intelligent enough to wait and watch.

    At that time, Nadal was on a roll winning IndianWells, Monte Carlo, Barcelona and Rome.
    But like last year, Fed turned it around in the hard court season.
     
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    It makes people ignore him more aswell.
     
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  28. ninman

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    And like last year Nadal did **** in the hardcourt season.
     
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    It doesn't 'prove' anything. It simply means that Rafa was very close to having a great chance at finishing the year #1.

    He still has a chance. It's just a very small chance now. If he had won Wimbledon, he would have had a real chance.
     
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  30. ninman

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    That's like saying if we invented warp drive we would have a real chance of exploring the universe. Not gonna happen though is it?
     
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  31. johnny ballgame

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    Not at all. We weren't close to inventing warp speed.

    Rafa was quite close to winning Wimbledon.
     
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  32. ninman

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    An inch is as good as mile. My parents were quite close to buying shares in Microsoft when they first started up, what does that prove?
     
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  33. johnny ballgame

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    I repeat, it 'proves' nothing.

    I'm simply saying that Gilbert's prediction wasn't so outrageous - it could have very easily happened.
     
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  34. ninman

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    Yeah but originally it was as likely as me striking oil in the bathroom of a mansion that I won in a lottery.
     
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  35. TennezSport

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    Very funny

    ^^^ :D Now that is funny :-D

    TennezSport :cool:
     
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  36. ninman

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    I'll confess that I stole that line from Futurama, still damn funny.
     
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  37. zagor

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    With Djoko around I'm not sure Nadal will finish second,let alone first
     
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  38. Mad iX

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    Who listens to him anyway? Besides the ones who pay him way too much.

    Although at the time he made this stupid comment, Nadal was red hot.
     
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  39. Nadal_Freak

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    So much hate for Nadal. I don't understand it.
     
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  40. ninman

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    How about because we all know he's an overhyped one trick pony, who apparently is improving on other surfaces, yet still fails to make any finals post Wimbledon.
     
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  41. johnny ballgame

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    Rafael Nadal: 2005 Champion of TMS Madrid (one of those little 'post Wimbledon' events)
     
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  42. ninman

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    Exactly, he had one good year, and he has one good surface, hence a one trick pony.
     
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  43. johnny ballgame

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    2005
    2006
    2007

    That's three good years and counting.

    Clay
    Wimbledon Grass
    Slower hard courts

    That's three surfaces and counting...
     
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  44. ninman

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    What has he won on grass? What's made 2006 and 2007 good years outside of clay? In fact when has he ever had a good year off of clay?
     
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    Bit harsh there... two Wimbledon finals ain't bad, especially when you almost beat Federer on his favorite surface.
     
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  46. ninman

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    So what, almost isn't good enough. He was lucky to get to both of those finals, 2 points away from going down in the second round in 06, and Soderling had break points for a 5-3 lead in the fifth, plus 2-0 down against Youzhny, and then Djokovic got injured.
     
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  47. johnny ballgame

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    Rafael Nadal at 21 yrs old:

    Hard Court Masters Titles: 3
    Wimbledon Finals: 2
    Hard Court Slam Titles: 0

    Roger Federer at 21 yrs old:

    Hard Court Masters Titles: 0
    Wimbledon Finals: 0
    Hard Court Slam Titles: 0
     
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  48. cknobman

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    Nice stats shows true potential for Nadal. Here will be a possible stat comparison to watch for though:

    Federer at 26 yrs old:
    GS titles: 12
    Healthy: yes
    Still playing top 10: yes

    Nadal at 26 yrs old:
    GS titles: 4
    Healthy: not since 08
    Still playing top 10: no
     
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  49. tennis_hand

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    the more scaring prediction is, next year, very likely, Nadal won't even finish as No 2.

    This year, although Djokovic might catch him up, Nadal is still very likely to retain his No2.
     
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  50. rafan

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    Oh come on who made Fed cry at Wimbledon ? Don't you remember what he said after the match -he said that it was Nadal's match as well -and it was. Rafa has done so much by the time he was 20 - who cares if he finishes 1st 2nd or 3rd - he will always be one great player who has brought the excitement back into tennis
     
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