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  1. Clemson_tennis

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    that would be a good pipeline. Several teams have pipelines like that. Texas Tech has the Brazil pipeline, Tennessee/Australia, Clemson/Germany, Oklahoma/Romania, Baylor/Germany, Ole Miss/Sweden, Wake Forest/Northeast USA.
     
  2. Aobanoniji

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    :):):) Good one. True.
     
  3. cmb

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    I guess Baylor knows which Germans to take....Leaving the gimps for Clemson
     
  4. ClarkC

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    I saw Bruno Abdelnour get a good 3-set win over Oystein Steiro of North Carolina today at the UVa invitational. Did not see the first set, which Abdelnour lost. He dominated the late second set and early third set, which is a good stretch of games to dominate if you have your choice. :)

    Kalmanovich won, think Hoh and Nevolo won but did not see them.

    Everything was indoors due to rain.
     
  5. Clemson_tennis

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    not so. Yannick Maden and Dom Maden are stellar players. Our German pipeline is recent by the way
     
  6. Aobanoniji

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    All three won today. Abdelnour has been playing a lot of 3-setters lately. He defintely seems to have upped his game since last season. Hoh/Abdelnour lost a close one in doubles. Doubles is going to be tough for us this year it seems.
     
  7. cmb

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    yeah Baylor finished ranked number 6, Clemson finished number 69.

    Clemson is really weak since the new coaching staff tookover. Not to knock on them, but they were a consistant top 10/top20 team. Now they just completely b l o w.
    Did the McCuen loosen up the time on the mile??? Lmao
     
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    Updated draw for UVa Ranked+1 tourney. Rough day for Illinois other than Kalmanovich.
     
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    I dont quite get the last joke there. We finished 69 but that was misleading, we took UNC,GT and VT to the wire. I am not sayin we are better than Baylor, but our German pipeline isn;t far behind theirs. Two of our better players are German.
     
  10. Aobanoniji

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    Oh well, Hoh and Abdelnour both lost close matches. Good on Kalmanovich to get to the final. Good luck tomorrow!
     
  11. cmb

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    I guess ur not that familiar with clemson tennis. When chuck Kreise was the coach...there was a Mandatory time of 5m20s to run a mile.
    THe Morning Madness preseason was brutal. And all the guys were in shape and ready to play.
    It seems like McCuen might have let the standards down i nthe fitness.
     
  12. Aobanoniji

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    How about making a Clemson Tigers thread?

    Football is looking good for Clemson by the way!
     
  13. Aobanoniji

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    UVA Ranked+1 Invitational Wraps Up

    The UVA Ranked+1 Invitational wrapped up today. The players were divided into orange, blue and white groups. Roy Kalmanovich finished runner-up in the orange group, Bruno Abdelnour finished in 3rd place in the white group, and Stephen Hoh finished seventh in the blue group. Hoh/Abdelnour won their doubles today to make their record 1-3. http://twitter.com/#!/Illini64
     
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    Qualifying Rounds for All-American Begin

    Roy Kalmanovich is the only Illini in the qualifying round. He will face Nick Chappell of Texas Christian in the first round at 10:30 on Monday October 3. Chappell was a top ranked recruit so this will be an interesting match.
     
  16. Aobanoniji

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    Kalmanovich defeated Chappell 6-4, 6-4! Two more wins Roy!
     
  17. Aobanoniji

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    Looks like Kalmanovich won his second round match in a third-set tie-breaker. If that awful scoreboard at Tulsa is correct.
     
  18. Aobanoniji

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    Roy Kalmanovich defeated Bob van Overbeek (Florida) 7-6 (3), 6-2 today to advance to the main draw of the tournament. The Illini will have 3 players representing them. Great job Roy!
     
  19. Clemson_tennis

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    Kalmanovich won today over Muppidi. Will face Yannick Maden next.
     
  20. Aobanoniji

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    Kalmanovich and Nevolo won and Hoh lost today. Quigley lost and really opened up that side of the draw.
     
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  21. Aobanoniji

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    Nevolo defeated Adrian Puget (UCLA) 6-1, 3-6, 7-6 (3).
    Kalmanovich defeated Yannick Madden (Clemson) 2-6, 6-4, 6-3.

    They both move on to the final 16. The top three seeds all lost today so the Illini have a great chance to do some damage in this tourney. Nevolo plays Guillermo Alcorta (Oklahoma, qualifier) and Kalmanovich plays Jose Hernandez (North Carolina, No. 8 seed) tomorrow.

    Go Illini!
     
  22. Clemson_tennis

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    KU Singh beat Yuki Bhambri 6-3 6-3 in an Indonesian future this week
     
  23. Aobanoniji

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    Good for KU! He is a Bulldog now but wish him the best. Got an email from him a couple weeks ago and told me why he is transferring (wants a scholarship). Too bad we are losing him.
     
  24. Aobanoniji

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    Nevolo advances to the final eight when his opponent retires in the first set.
    Kalmanovich took the first set against No. 8 Hernandez but they are going into a 3rd set now.
     
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    Kalmanovich defeats Hernandez 6-4, 3-6, 6-2 and joins Nevolo in the quaterfinals! Great job guys!
     
  26. Dawgie Dawg

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    Yep. All he had to do has get out of the dreary north to flourish. He will make an immediate impact in Athens, where players go to turn into warrriors. Bhambri was the 31 world junior right? and KU made mince-meat out of him
     
  27. Aobanoniji

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    College tennis just made a mockery of itself by penalyzing a player NINE POINTS for coming back a bit late from a bathroom break. The brilliant ump continue to penalyze Nevolo when he protested. He fiinished the third set 6-0. Pathetic.
     
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  29. Aobanoniji

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    If they are going to penalize that much for something like that, I'm done. Cuck Tollege Fennis.
     
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    I understand the disappointment, but if a player is stalling in the locker room to try to overcome cramps, for example, then there have to be penalties. If a player has no cramps but decides to spend 15 minutes in the bathroom because he thinks it might cool off a hot opponent, then there have to be penalties. If he honestly cannot finish his bathroom trip any faster because he has a virus, then that is the same thing as having a medical timeout that reaches the time limit. After a 10 minute medical timeout, what if a player says he just needs another 10 minutes and he will be able to play? The umpire will start charging point penalties. FYI, the same thing will happen on the ATP tour, not just in college tennis. Rules exist for a reason.
     
  31. Aobanoniji

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    And are these rules enforced in the exact same way everywhere? No. Judging from Frank's comments he was surprised they actually started counting it off. And this is on Dancer as well. He should know this ahead of time and enform his players. Fail on the ump, fail on Dancer and fail on the entire tournament.
     
  32. saigonbond 2.0

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    "It's been a very interesting day...," said Frank.
    "That's probably the strangest thing I've ever seen happen with those point penalties. That obviously helped me get through that match..."
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    FYI:

    Most people don't know that Nevolo has a heart condition called supraventricular tachycardia, that required surgery. The condition causes a rapid increase in heart rate that can cause dizziness or even cause him to lose consciousness.
    It often causes him to look like he's seemingly "run out of gas." He often looks lackadasical because of this condition, especially to those who don't know. This seemingly "lackadasical appearance" is because he has to pace himself and conserve his energy as best he can during strenuous physical activity.
    Great run for the Illini boys so early in the Fall season. They also have a couple blue-chippers on the way, so the team future seems to be solid... albeit Dancer's lack of coaching ability and lack of ability to retain a roster notwithstanding. Too bad KU left. A would-have-been lineup featuring Nevolo, Kal, & KU would have given any top team big problems.

    Cheers
     
  33. woodrow1029

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    You could at least do some research to know the rules before posting stuff like this. A lot of the rules in mens college tennis are designed around cheating. Players at one point were told by their coaches at some schools, that if they get down in a tight spot in the match and their opponent hits an ace, call a let. The solution? Take away service lets and play it when the serve hits the net.

    Then, coaches would say, if you get down in a tight spot in the match, take a bathroom break. The solution? Take away bathroom breaks. I will come back to this.

    Then, coaches would say to take a medical timeout. The solution? Limit the players to one medical timeout per match, instead of one medical timeout per injury.

    Back to the bathroom breaks. In mens college tennis, there technically are NO bathroom breaks allowed. If the player needs to go to the bathroom, they are "on their own time" and must be back and ready to play in time (changeover, within 90 seconds and on a set break within 2 minutes). At most dual matches and tournaments, the coaches usually come to an agreement before the match with the head referee on what to do with bathroom breaks. Sometimes, they will agree to give an extra minute or two. Sometimes, the coaches will decide to just allow bathroom breaks with reasonable time on a set break only. IF THE PLAYER IS NOT BACK AND READY TO PLAY IN TIME, IT IS A TIME VIOLATION POINT PENALTY FOR EVERY 20 SECONDS THAT THE PLAYER IS NOT BACK.
     
  34. woodrow1029

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    Just wrong.
     
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    In college tennis, you can take a medical timeout for cramping, but you only get one medical timeout per match now. If the player spends 15 minutes in the bathroom, they would be defaulted. Additionally, the longest a medical timeout can be in college tennis including evaluation and treatment is 5 minutes (with 3 minutes treatment time maximum). If the player is not ready to play after time is called on a medical timeout, it is under the code violation and not time violation. Meaning Point Pentaly, Game Penalty, then Default.
     
  36. Aobanoniji

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    Nope. Not wrong. Very inconsistent in keeping these rules. That's the problem. You can go copy and paste from a rule book until you're blue in the face. I can do that too.

    But the biggest problem is Dancer. He is just a terible coach in getting his players ready.
     
  37. woodrow1029

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    It's your perception that it is very inconsistent. But you don't know what the coaches are agreeing to. I'm not just quoting rules out of a rulebook. I am telling you the way it is. It's fine if you want to complain about Brad Dancer and the players, but no fail by the umpire here.
     
  38. socaltennnis

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    i find that the fanatical posters in the college forums to be the worst of any. they have to argue over every loss, every transfer of a student, every point penalty. ever watch some college tennis matches in person? you can bet that all national ita tournaments, ncaa championships, and conference matches are refereed with this level of scrutiny. every court at these events are chaired by a referee and the same pool of refs chair the matches for the duration of the event. nevolo has played 3 years of college tennis, has been in both ita events and the ncaa tournament, and was in his third day of this year's event and so he is FOR SURE not unaware of time violations. also, stop blaming the coach for every single problem that comes across his team. it is not his call to force a player to get back on the court if his player is taking too long of a bathroom break. obviously nevolo knows the rules, and whatever the reason why he didn't make it back in time (ie: stalling, resting, sitting on the toilet, treating cramps, or treating his heart condition), it was nevolo's choice/fault to give up those points.

    lastly, woodrow is actually an ita ref and has refereed tons of college matches including ita events and the ncaa championships and so he knows what he is talking about because he is actually on the court with these players. Also, at the ncaa's team championship site this past may, the secondary site where half of the dual matches were taking place, the only bathrooms were 2 outhouses behind the stadium seating. imagine the players trying to run back and forth between the courts to the bathroom in between set changeovers and finishing their business in 2 minutes or less... cause thats actually what happens at college matches. the players know it. the coaches know it. the refs know it. you(they) would be a fool not to know it if you were the deciding match at a conference game.
     
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  39. Aobanoniji

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    If there is a problem, it should be pointed out. You can go ahead and suger coat the problems if you want. The fact that you're a socal fan should disqualify you from this discussion. I've seen matches and there so many different interpretations and inconsistencies at tournaments, it's a mess. The umpires may be doing what they think is right, but I do not seen any sense of uniformity in they way they apply the rules. I guess it can't be helped since they are all amateurs doing the best they can. To watch a match for that long, getting ready to enjoy a great finish to the match and then something like that happens is just ridiculous. And we wonder why college tennis doesn't have that many fans. There you go. I'm done discussing about that fisaco of a tournament. I'm going back to watching how Dancer can put some spin on that mess and see if he can find some players to play for him before he loses anyone else.
     
  40. socaltennnis

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    yea, then maybe college tennis isn't for you.
     
  41. andfor

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    The only thing funnier than exchange between Socal and Aobanoniji is they are arguing a penalty incurred by an athlete who could not get off the toilet fast enough.

    Just when you thought you've seen or heard it all.....................
     
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  42. Clemson_tennis

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    Aobanoniji, have you ever met IlliniSky? Or are you illiniSky?
     
  43. Aobanoniji

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    lol, I haven't thought of it that way....:oops:....:)

    Moving on.
     
  44. Clemson_tennis

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    But in all seriousness, 90 seconds is not very long for a bathroom break. What if you seriously are having issues? What if it is an extremely hot day?
     
  45. ttbrowne

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    At Tulsa, where I assume this happened, if you're playing on the best 3 courts, the restrooms are just about three tennis court widths away at the most. It was designed that way.
     
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  46. woodrow1029

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    You have some issues.
     
  47. woodrow1029

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    You can use a medical time out for an emergency bathroom break, but you have to let the umpire know that is what you are doing before you leave the court to go to the bathroom.

    Additionally, the bathroom breaks were being abused way too much, which was the reason for the rule change. By the way, this has been the rule for at least 7 years.
     
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  48. Aobanoniji

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    Because I disagree with you? OK. :rolleyes:
     
  49. Dawgie Dawg

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    Nevolo was and is the better player than Frank as is Spencer and several other players in the draw. Frank was helped by the freshman mystery. he will have a mediocre record this year at #2 for UVA
     
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    Just bumping this post..
    an official Illinois Tennis Nike shirt - XL
     

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