I'm in tennis purgatory

Discussion in 'Adult League & Tournament Talk' started by Fuji, Jun 14, 2012.

  1. Fuji

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    Hey all,

    It's been a while since I've made a thread here, and I'd like to ask a few questions for the TT Experts here.

    I'm stuck in tennis purgatory here! Leagues are starting up this year and I've been looking into playing with my coaches league. Here's the thing...

    I've been working with a coach retooling my game and his words are "you'd trounce pretty much any 4.0, but you'd have difficulties taking sets off of 5.0 in a league setting."

    There are no true 4.5 leagues up and running this year that work for my schedule, only 4.0/5.0/Open.

    Also since I'm going to be 18 very soon, a lot of the 4.0 Men's teams are against letting "youngin's" on their team.

    So here I am completely stuck! I'm pretty well being forced into playing 5.0 tennis if I want to play competitively this year.

    Do I take a year off to improve, or do I just suck it up and play up?

    -Fuji
     
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  2. LeeD

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    If you have enough shotmaking to force the 5.0's around, move up, learn when to use them, use them, and take a step upwards.
    If you don't think you can replicate 5.0 shots, you can go back to winning at 4.0, which you passed 2 years ago.
    I'd think you have the shots, just need some experience on when to hit them, and how often, against which opponent's and when.
     
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  3. Timbo's hopeless slice

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    Play up mate!

    You will be surprised how quickly the faster rhythm becomes natural and you start having time to think and move these guys around a bit.
     
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  4. Cindysphinx

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    Oh, Fuji. I have the solution to your problems.

    You can be my 9.0 mixed partner.

    You're welcome.
     
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  5. jdubbs

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    I would definitely play up at 5.0. You'll play great players and you'll have to raise your game tremendously. This can only help you get better. You are still at the age where your tennis can take a great leap forward.
    I would invest in some coaching, or ask the guys you practice with for pointers.
     
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  6. floridatennisdude

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    You are 18 years old and eager to improve. Play up.

    Also, if there are no 4.5 leagues, aren't most at that level playing 5.0 anyway? I would bet you'll get plenty of even matchups.
     
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  7. sureshs

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    If you are a 18 year old 4.5/5.0 player, you are the expert on this board, you don't need no advice from others.
     
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  8. tennisjon

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    First, I think you need to by 18 to play USTA leagues. Secondly, did you graduate from HS? Depending on the school you plan on attending, that will affect how you must self-rate. If given the option based on what you described, if you are truly above 4.0, don't rate 4.0. You will just get DQ'ed and ruin your team. I would rate 4.5 and play on a 5.0 team, that way if you don't get bumped to 5.0 next season you can play on a 4.5 team if your schedule allows. Lastly, I would mostly play tournaments this summer. I know its not the same as being on a team, but its competition.
     
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  9. Roforot

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    I can't imagine too many 4.0 teams turning away a strong singles player. Most teams are wary of younger players who "overrate" themselves. THe kind of hot shot who hits 1 or 2 winners and donates 6 or 7 unforced errors...

    That being said, I suggest you try playing the 5.0 league, try some doubles. I think playing up perhaps with an experienced player will really help to develop your game.
     
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  10. Rjtennis

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    Like others have said, if there is not a 4.5 league there are probably a bunch of 4.5 guys playing up at 5.0. Go for the 5.0 league, it will be a good experience. Also, what about signing up for both teams if you have the time?
     
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  11. burosky

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    Do you have an invitation to play for a 5.0 team? If you do, what is there to think about? I'd do it in a heartbeat.
     
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  12. ctromano

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    i'd take a little bit of caution... if I felt unsure about something then i'd really think about it. Playing 4.5 would be a great fit, but since there are no 4.5 teams that basically means killing all the 4.0's or playing up a 5.0 and perhaps hurting your ego and game, which must be at a cross roads at 18years of age since you are unsure at this point. If your burnt out and want to rest go ahead, if you get an opportunity to play on a 5.0 team that will coach you up and set you up to be successful then by all means join it and play. i'd look for the perfect situation if I was going to play 5.0 because like you might already know, most 5.0 are 5.0 for a reason they have the game to back up their mouths.
     
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  13. floridatennisdude

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    The OP is 18 and has posted almost 3000 times on a tennis forum. He's motivated enough. He'll work enough to be competitive playing up.

    It's not like a 65 year old trying to jump in a league after a couple years of playing.
     
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  14. ctromano

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    all i'm saying is that there are a lot of 5.0 players that can mess with your head and your game, an 18 year old's tennis well being might be in danger here. ha ha ha
     
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  15. ctromano

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    oh wait a minute the kid is from Canada eh? never mind hes probably way better than a 5.0 anyway, I know some great Canadian tennis players, they are all very steady and up and coming.
     
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  16. tennis tom

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    Play open tournaments.
     
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  17. Loose Cannon

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    Im a 4.0....Id accept your challenge in a heart beat
     
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  18. Fuji

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    Hey all! I've loved reading the responses!

    @Cindy: Of course I'll be your 9.0 mixed partner! We'll win nationals! I'll just need a work Visa to come live in the states for a while! Hahaha!

    @Timbo: That's what I'm starting to figure as well, I think I'll be able to get used to it, hopefully quickly!

    @Roforot: That's hopefully going to be my plan, thank you for the tips!

    @Rjtennis: I was thinking the same as you, as I can't be the only 4.5 in this situation.

    @Ctromano: Thank you for the concern bud, I appreciate it as I know what it's like to be absolutely decimated from higher level players. (Happened to me when I was 3.5 playing a 4.5, I got absolutely rocked.) Also, are Canadian players stronger then American? ;) Just kidding of course.

    @tennistom: I'm playing in a huge open in a few weeks actually! I'm really looking forward to it as it's my first tournament in quite a while. I heard we have some really solid players coming in to play it!

    @loosecannon: Of course! If you are ever in Alberta Canada I'd love to play a match. The whole province is pretty easy to cover by car, as you can get pretty much anywhere within a 6 hour drive from my location. Message me if you are ever near!

    -Fuji
     
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  19. rkelley

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    Play up. You're actively working on your game and getting better. The 5.0s will stretch you and make you better.
     
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  20. yonexpurestorm

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    i am pretty much in the same boat as you fuji. im in this weird spot between 4.5 and open tournaments where 4.5 is not fun and open i am not good enough to win. i choose to play the opens because it will make me better in the long run.
     
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  21. Loose Cannon

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    :( Dont think 'Ill ever venture that far, but I will remember the invite!!!!
     
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  22. Fuji

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    It's unfortunate! I wish that there was more of the "tencap" system where you are basically in a huge ladder. That seems like that would be the most fun and efficient way to get matches.

    My open is just over 2 weeks away, and I'm fully prepared to get dominated hard by some of the university guys that are playing in it. (My universities team won nationals this year!)

    -Fuji
     
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  23. Fuji

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    Of course! Just let me know if you are ever heading this way! :)

    -Fuji
     
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  24. GameSetMatchWin

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    Play up! you won't regret it
     
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