I'm not greatest player - Roger Federer

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    I'm not greatest player - Roger Federer


    "I don't feel better than anyone, because we need past champions to pave the way for our generation and we have become very professional," he said.


    "They have led the way and inspired myself and other players to chase the big records out there.


    "Back in the day they weren't doing that, they were just playing to play tennis. Things have changed dramatically with the press reminding us 'you should do this and win that and you'll be considered the greatest of all time'.


    "And anyway I don't think you can compare different eras in tennis."





    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/18764325


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  2. Prisoner of Birth

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    Roger Federer is a big, fat liar.
     
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    Jeez, talk about saying the right things for the cameras.

    Forced humbleness in the form of reverse psychology to reinforce the notion that he is the greatest ever. Nice work.
     
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    maybe, and Nadal's

    Nadal believes previous tennis eras cannot match the excitement generated by the current stars of the sport.

    "Pete Sampras versus Goran Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable,"

    "It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. It was less eye-catching than what we do now. Everyone enjoys the tennis we play much more. I am not saying we are playing better tennis, just more enjoyable tennis. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve."


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    clay excluded. successive win 0. If grass and a hard are fast. Like Sampras era. Nadal is able to win only with clay.

    smug arrogant..
     
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    Federer just can't win this. Federer might as well just say "I'm the GOAT so you can suck it". There is no point in being nice for Federer or any top players because cynical morons like you will always come up with a way to demonize the action.

    If you are a top tennis pro, the following applies:

    Charity work= PR stuff. Also, you are a greedy bstard and trying to get a little tax break.

    Say something nice about your rivals= Being a shameless phony in front of the camera.

    Take a bathroom break= cheating bstard.
     
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    Just another reason that he is.
     
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    Q. Both McEnroe and Agassi said in the World Team Tennis match this July that tennis right now at the top, men’s tennis is the toughest ever. Do you think you four guys are the toughest maybe in history in terms of competing against each other and winning events?



    ROGER FEDERER: I’d say no, but I don’t know. Just because you look back maybe 15 years, then you have Sampras, Edberg, Becker, and Agassi, I don’t know who else. Those guys weren’t good or what? Do you know what I mean?

    You look back, further back, 20 years, and you have the Connors and the Lendls. Those weren’t good either? I mean, I don’t know. So for me I think that’s respectful. It’s just different times and definitely more athletic, there’s no doubt about that. But then again we don’t play doubles. We don’t play mixed. Maybe we play less matches today because it’s more taxing, but we do play less best‑of‑five set tennis than they used to play. You can’t compare really.

    but we have somewhat of a golden era right now. I feel that truly. It’s nice to see Andy making his move at the Olympics, nice to see Novak having an absolutely ridiculous year last year, and then Rafa and myself still being around. It’s definitely good times. Past that you still have great champions as well. It’s very interesting at the top right now, and the depth I think has never been greater than right now. There’s no doubt about that.

    But then best ever? The four of us? That’s a really difficult call.



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    He has respect too much.
     
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    He is no way greatest - simply because of clay impotence
     
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    It's not the proper term. He's the G.O.A.T.
     
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    Right, because he's the only French Open winner in the Nadal era.
     
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    Humblest and greatest ever eva :D
     
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    Federer is stating the truth. He knows that players from the previous eras were also great just as he is. It would be pathetic and shameful if he just dissed the former greats and say he is the GOAT(pointing finger to Nadal).
     
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    Are you that guy who posts that message over and over on youtube? I hope not...
     
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    Err, he hasn;t said that, he's said Roger is better, he been bombarded with it by the likes of Mcenroe who then said he was too modest. The guy can't do anythign right for some people.
     
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    "Pete Sampras versus Goran Ivanisevic match, or one between those kind of players, is not enjoyable," - Quoted from Nadal.

    "It's not really tennis, it is a few swings of the racquet. It was less eye-catching than what we do now. Everyone enjoys the tennis we play much more. I am not saying we are playing better tennis, just more enjoyable tennis. For me, in the past it was just serve, serve, serve." - Quoted from Nadal.
     
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    I said he hasn't said he is GOAT, or anywhere near it, so why state that like a fact?
     
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    helloworld is just a current era hater. I thought Nadal was a bit disrespectful with the above quote, but in general, I don't think he is an arrogant jerk.

    The media forces the players to answer questions that have no good answer, and then there is a huge backlash on these forums about it.

    It has nothing to do with what was said, only which player said it.
     
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  19. 90's Clay

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    Nice to see Fed has some more common sense then some of his fanatical fan base. There is no hands down GOAT in this sport. Too difficult to compare all the eras objectively and come up with a for sure answer
     
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    Even if Fed win 30 slams, he would never say he's the greatest. Graf or Jordan never self-proclaimed that they are the best. I remember Jerry Rice was always bombarded with the same question after he broke/set a ton of NFL records, and never say he's greatest of all time.
     
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    Jerry Rice NEVER admitted that he's the greatest when reporters keep asking him all the time. According to you, if Jerry say so, that means he's not the best. Ridiculous!
     
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    Rice played with Montana.. That helped him a ton.. Many will argue Montana is the GOAT QB. Would Rice have been as successful if he played alongside some garbage QB? .. DO you want to compare a TEAM SPORT to an individual one now?
     
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    He is Nadals pigeon he knows it.Major matches 8 to 2.He also dominated the weakest field in men tennis history with the likes of Hewitt and Roddick.
     
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    You have every excuses for everything, do you? Next thing you'll say Jordan can't be > Kobe because of team sport. LOL

    If all the people think like you and doesn't believe Rice is the greatest, why would they keep asking him that question all the time? Why not ask Carter, Moss, Largent, Monk, Irvine, etc.., since they are great receiver themselves? That's because the consensus is Rice is the best by the experts, players and coaches. Federer is being ask the same question because he's dominated the sport, he's like the Rice of the NFL.
     
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    I never knew Kobe was in GOAT contention.. :shock: There is probably 9-10 players in NBA history with better claims to GOAT then Kobe
     
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    Federer used to be INCREDIBLY arrogant back in 2006 or so.
     
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    Every time Roger says something we need to make a thread about it

    Rule #1 of TT
     
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    Dumbest. Comment. Today. And that is quite an accomplishment.
     
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    Arrogant GOAT is arrogant. :)
     
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    Well then you don't know much about NBA since Kobe has been compare to Michael quite often. A lot has to do with their similar style, same position, even the way they speak. Most fans believe Jordan > Kobe, even Laker's fanatics wouldn't argue against it.

    Anyway, my point is a player is considered to be great is base on opinion from the masses, whether if it's individual or team sport. Fed has reached the pinnacle of success is the reason why he's being ask that question.
     
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    NO ONE who follows basketball would ever say Kobe is anywheres near GOAT status.. NONE!!!

    Magic
    Bird
    Kareem
    Shaq
    Russell
    Duncan
    Wilt


    Just to name a few... All have better careers and way more claim to GOAT then Kobe
     
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    I never said Kobe is a goat status. I'm just saying people compare him to Jordan all the time. The point i was making was you say a player(e.g. Jerry Rice) can't be the greatest because it's the team sport. That would hold true for Jordan in basketball because it's the team sport too. Your logic is no player in a team sport can't be the greatest, thus you can't say Jordan > Kobe.

    But according to the majority of sport fans POV, Jordan, Rice is the best in their respective sport.
     
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    Sure, but it is still difficult to compare. These are our opinions. We don't have an objective answer because the all-time greats from different eras played in...different eras.

    We have an objective answer about who the number one player is today, right now: Roger Federer. We know the succession of number one players, e.g recentlY:

    2/2/2004 - 8/17/2008 (237 weeks) : Federer
    8/18/2008 - 7/5/2009 (46 weeks) : Nadal
    7/6/2009 - 6/6/2010 (48 weeks) : Federer
    7/7/2010 - 7/3/2011 (56 weeks) : Nadal
    7/4/2011 - 7/8/2012 (53 weeks) : Djokovic
    7/9/2012 - present (8 weeks): Federer

    That's what we have objectively. We can also look at Majors won, semi-finals, finals, etc. But even when we have one set of numbers greater than another (e.g., Federer's 293 weeks #1 > Sampras' 286 weeks #1), we can't objectively say that proves anything beyond what is stated. Different eras, different times.
     
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    Fedfans such as ABMK,fEDRULZ,TMF should learn form their idol...will they listen to Federer? I doubt it.
     
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    I think if you check the stats, Roger is the second most accomplished clay court player of this decade.
     
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    True. Unlike his fanatics, he must live in the reality of accomplishment assessment, not "m-m-my new toy in better than yours nyyaahhh!" type of arguments, seen in sports, music, film--many fields.
     
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    clueless >>>>> I've never said federer is the undisputed GOAT ....... just that by any set of parameters, he's in the top-tier of all time greats and IMO the GOAT .....

    now will you ever listen to Laver saying he's never seen anyone do that many things on a tennis court as federer can and has ??? LMAO !!!!
     
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    if it wasnt for becker, edberg and sampras federer would not be federer so he gives them a lot of respect
     
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    Not so fast. Jordan is thin-skinned about his alleged standing as the NBA's GOAT, as noted by Jordan book author Roland Lazenby, who tweeted about Jordan's take on the comparisons between Kobe and Jordan as the GOAT:


    Deserve comparison?

    In other words, HE will decide who is good enough to be compared to his royal self, as Jordan sees himself as the GOAT.
     
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    Jordan never stated that he's greatest of all time. Single out one guy(Kobe) in a discussion doesn't mean he's saying he's above everyone. Although he's well aware that most fans believe he's #1.

    Few guys like Moss and Ali have openly stated that they are the best.
     
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    LOL i love how in a federer saying hes not the greatest thread people are having a hot debate on basketball
     
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  42. TennisLovaLova

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    No one is bigger than the game
     
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    Of course the players who are playing today are playing tennis at a higher level than has ever been reached before. That applies in most sports due to fine-tuning in training methods and technology. But every era relies on inspiration growing up by viewing the previous era. So everyone basically stands on the shoulders of giants as Newton said. So there both is and is not a GOAT depending on how you think of it and define it. It's all subjective anyway, since "greatness" combines so many things that cannot be measured. Aesthetics, court body language and manners, etc.
     
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    So Humble.
     
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    Too bad Nadal was the field's pigeon for so long. But I guess he's historically a #2 player. That's where he has spent the most time. The way you talk, you make it seem like Fed hasn't won a slam since 2006.
     
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    LMAO¡¡¡ You never heard that Laver also said, with equal conditions ( wood?) he said he´d love his chances agianst any of the current players???

    I will translate it from laver´s humbe langauge so that you can get it.If Humblest Laver " just " says he´d love his chances, in real expression, it means he thinks he´d be baggeling them left right...
     
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    Old news, Federer said that back in July, just a couple of days after Laver said this:

    “Roger Federer certainly is my claim to be the best of all time if there is such a thing,” (Rod Laver)

    Federer was just being nice to Laver.

    (I hope the irony is not lost on Federer haters...)
     
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    I believe that Federer has a lot of respect for Laver, unlike kiki, who doesn't respect anyone who was born after a certain date. I would also think that Laver has respect for Federer. ;)

    If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.
     
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    Nadal is the victim of his injury problems and tougher field compare to likes of Hewitt and Roddick.
     
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    He knows he's not the Greatest player ever because he can't beat Rafa Nadal.
     
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