Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by JRAJ1988, Aug 16, 2013.
Even though I'm a great fan of Haas, he cannot compete with Rosewall and Laver.
As an Oakland native, I have had the pleasure of meeting some older gentlemen who saw Don Budge play, and they swear that no one else's backhand, one-handed or two-handed, even comes close. I can't dispute their claim, nor can I dispute those who say Ken Rosewall had the best one-hander ever, because I never saw either of them play. All I can write is that Richard Gasquet and Tommy Haas have the best one-handers I have ever seen.
what was wrong with his forehand?
My current Favorites - Tommy Haas and Nicolas Almagro.
Stefan Edberg is the best in my opinion. I loved to watch him play. Does anybody else like Muster's backhand? I always liked his groundstrokes in general, even if they were less effective off of clay.
it wasnt as notable.
Lendl's Backhand is my personal favorite. He hit it with mostly slice early in his career, but around the late 1970's early 1980's he decided to develop a topspin/flat backhand with the help of polish player Wojtek Fibak. His backhand wasn't as devastating as his forehand, but in my eyes it's still poetry in motion.
Gasquet? You guys are a joke.
I think the people citing Rosewall have never actually watched videos of his BH. It's not a particularly impressive stroke and represents an era where that was a defensive shot. It does not even belong in the discussion with the way the guys hit them today with aggression and pace.
I don't think you can really contextualize that 1HBH stroke until the early 1980's where more modern racquets and strokes started to show up and players started taking a rip at the ball.
Budge, Rosewall, Laver, Ashe, Edberg.
Edberg comes first with Rosewall a very close second.
The most explosive goes to Gasguet. Federers was good in his prime but the same can be said for a lot of players. Edbergs and rosewalls was good for the entire career. Lavers was up there as well. Can't forget Korda either.
Long list of clay court specialists with great one handlers.
One of the great things about Edberg, Laver, and Rosewalls backhands was they did it all with the same grip. Not even the overrated great Federer could pull that off. Go give it a try. Use a continental and hit flat, slice, and topspin as well as volleys. It takes a lot more skill and feel to pull it off. Then they used the same grip to do everything off the forehand as well. Those guys had some clean pure strokes.
Ever: William Renshaw
For pure power it has to be Almagro. The guy can even hit the cover off Nadal forehands high in his strike-zone.
Almagro has, I think the most powerful backhand in the game now, across 1hbh's and 2hbh's.
No doubt - Sjieng Schalken
so many greats, from Kovacs and Lacoste getting through Budge,Rosewall,Patty,Ashe,Laver,Orantes,Vilas,Edberg...
as for the ROS, Kodes and Stolle are among the greatest
I always thought Federer had a Kuertenesque 1 handed backhand (in the beginning).
I'm going with Edberg because of his disguise, the power with which he ripped it, and because he could hit it inside-out up the line with a nice blend of feathery control and power. It's hard to say, though, because he did not seem to enjoy hanging around the back court with it, and so, I am inclined to doubt his backhand could have held up any better than, say, Federer's from the modern baseline.
all he did was slice...ok for the 1950's but not the caliber of the best ones of the modern era
that's why he had the best slice.
ya just like graf...all they did was slice everything... hardly the caliber of players who could hit big offensive topspin drives.
It is curious.
Now that you've put that link of Graf backhand, I've watched it (and the other one part 2 ) and, suddenly not only Graf's forehand seems to me a little bit similar to Sampras forehand in execution and in a powerful and big shot it was for both, but also the weird-looking top-spin backhand of Graf seems to me a little bit similar (I don't know in exactly what way) to Sampras's top-spin backhand (Graf's one looks wierder, I know, but something about it reminds me of Sampras's backhand too). I don't know, it is weird, I'll stop drinking for today...
i don't notice the similarities. then again, you could be right.
there were (very slight) flaws in Graf's topspin backhand that left her feeling uncomfortable compared to her virtually perfect slice backhand, even in the most extreme situations. of course, this is for her standard of excellence, and it rarely failed her when she actually used it.
Graf had the best backhand slice in women's tennis. Navralitova has the better volley. Perhaps Mauresmo has the second best backhand slice. Backhand topspin for a one-hander in womens? Mauresmo and Henin.
for me ken rosewall
Supposedly Rosewall and Budge historically are said to have boss one handers.
From what I have seen 2000+ Federer when on his A game had a spectacular backhand. Wawrinka and Gasquet also have some great ones, and currently the best on tour.
Keep in mind Federer won 17 slams with that backhand, yes his forehand is incredible but barring Nadal and that develish topspin forehand to Federer's BH, Federer's is one of the top 15 surely?
Only Nadal truly hurt Fed's backhand on a consistent basis. Look at peak Federer matches and you will see an incredible weapon. 2004-2007 those four years Fed was killing it with that backhand, very confident shot, very free flowing.
Non-slammers don't deserve a mention. You have to have a good backhand to win slams with it. Just because Gasquet or Wawrinka hit a 100mph backhand doesn't make it special.
That's exactly how I see the top four as well.
Federer ?? he has the worst backhand in top 50 at the moment
You're exaggerating right there.
Gasquet, by far.
Almagro, Edberg, and yes Albert Montanes are next up. Andres Gomez and Guillermo Vilas are right there as well.
Then here is another question:
Who has a worse backhand then Federer in the top 50?
How about in the Top 10?
Clearly Tsonga does, by far.
Well, by that logic, Sampras clearly has a better backhand than Nalbandian, no?
Or how-about just accept that Slam winners have other components of their game that work so well as to offset the fact that some non-Slammers have better backhands than them? And the difference maybe even mental and not even game-related.
I thought we were discussing one handers..?
Ken Rosewall and Rod Laver had two of the best one handed backhands ever.
See this clip of some Laver backhands during the 1969 US Open final.
Some amazing shots.
And the players were complaining about the condition of the grass at Wimbledon this year!
"they are going to get a lot of spills and a lot of bad bounces."
Haas backhand is underrated I feel.
hahahahah totally agree about Gasquet. Give me David Ferrers' BH over Gasquets' any day
How can Rosewall have the best BH of all time when he couldn't hit with top spin? Maybe we need a pre open and post open list because you aren't winning grand slams with just a chipped one hander or a flat one hander in the last 30 years.
Guga or Haas...
Oh, forgot about Hoad!!!
amazing backhand, so much racquet head speed especially for his time!
All time, or recent time = Guga Kuerten
Right now, it's obviously Stan Wawrinka
no way does anyone now equal Gasquet. Almagro is closest.
80's era Edberg.
pre 80's who knows. Enrico Palazzo?
Gasquet's BH maybe pretty to some of you, but it is no where near efficient enough to be the overall best...
Haas's BH is supieor to Gasquet's among current players!
But that was on grass. You cannot compare that to the surfaces of today where players have to tackle high-bouncing balls. Do you think Laver's BH could have stood up against Nadal?
If Nadal played with a wooden racquet strung with gut on fast grass...
I would pick the Rocket 9.5 times out of ten.
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