Indian Wells:Andreev vs Roddick

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  1. vive le beau jeu !

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    waow... poor stats in the 3rd !
    he won only 4 points on his serve ???

    and... on the scoreboard i saw "code violation"... did he get a penalty point ?
     
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  2. znoopie

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    He smashed his poor racquet..
     
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  3. vive le beau jeu !

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    sure "she" didn't deserve it ? ;)
     
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  4. TW CSR

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    Just watched the end of this match while I was home at lunch. Andy was not looking so good but Andreev was on. At least I got to see Andy break his racquet!!
     
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  5. gts072

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    Roddick sux. His performance on court has sucked so long. Bring out the flamers! ;)
     
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  6. quest01

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    I think Roddicks downfall has been when he switched to his new racquet.
     
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  7. hoosierbr

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    I think Andy is still a little fragile upstairs. He let the argument w/the chair umpire get to him and then snapped at someone in the crowd in the third set. He needs to learn to let it go b/c I think these kinds of things affect him more than he wants to admit.

    Granted, it's easier said than done.
     
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  8. stoffer

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    What racquet is he using now? Im surprised he dropped his PD.
     
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  9. Shabazza

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    Roddick just fell apart after his 3 Bp's at the begining of the 3rd set - don't know if I should laugh or cry...
     
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  10. lucky leprechaun

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    Oh :rolleyes: what a surprise. As soon as I saw the score, I would have bet money roddick had to have thrown a tantrum. the guy doesn't leave the court without chewing out a linesperson and/or ump and/or destroying a racquet when losing to a guy he considers beneath him. He needs to get with the program: If you don't serve 70% on your first serve you are GOING TO LOSE because that's the reason you win. Quit blaming everybody else.
     
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  11. quest01

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    Roddick is using the pure drive roddick plus. Ever since he switched to this racquet he has been playing awful tennis this year. I think this is a big reason why he's not playing well this year.
     
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  12. ACE of Hearts

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    Racquet excuses, Roddick sucks, bottom line
     
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  13. sexmachine

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    PUT A SOCK IN IT ACE OF HEARTS.... It grabs me that he can't reguarly control the racquet, but he has some serious confidense issues
     
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  14. tykrum

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    Okay here it is: court positioning. Roddick lost every single point he stood 10 feet behind the baseline because Andreev just pushed him around. I don't think that it was the reason why Roddick was standing so far back, I saw many points where Roddick had the oppertunity to move up and didn't. When Roddick stepped up and played aggresive, he generally won the point or gave himself a much better chance. That's it, with better positioning, Roddick can hit out on his forehand and dictate play. I think this stat is the result of his reluctance to move up: 4 forehand winners, 28 unforced errors. So frustrating to watch, if any of you taped it, look back and you'll see the pattern. John Roddick better have noticed it too and get in Andy's face about it.
     
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  15. LowProfile

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    Perhaps some practice (not match play mind you) with a denser string pattern will help him learn to drive it more instead of using spin to try to keep it in, which lead to quite a few of his errors in that match.
     
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  16. ACE of Hearts

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    Hey sexmachine, Roddick sucks!:mrgreen: , Seriously this guy needs to work on all aspects of his game.
     
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  17. Chadwixx

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    Hehe, im sure he isnt happy about roddick losing, but he should be used to it by now.

    His game just doesnt make sense to me, he stands 10 feet behind the baseline yet is terrible on clay?
     
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  18. Midlife crisis

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    Yeah, I watched his last match and you've nailed it. He stands so far behind the baseline none of his shots are offensive, he has to cover a tremendous amount of court, and when the opportunity presents itself with a short ball, he's in no position to take advantage of it - instead he has to hit it no more than a foot off the ground and just spin it back instead of making his opponent pay for it. On top of that, he hits with less pace than probably 75% of the men players and probably a good third of the women players. I have no idea what has happened to his game, but it is representative of someone ranked between 50 and 150.
     
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  19. alienhamster

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    Agree most with this assessment. It's weird that people here are complaining about his inability to drive the ball--if anything I thought he was doing a much better job today of stepping in and dictating with the forehand. He just made a bunch of errors. You gotta give the guy time to find his range again.

    To me it came down to the mental and the physical. He lost TWO 0-40 games in a row to break Andreev--made several dumb errors. He really didn't play the big points well at all today. He also seemed to run out of gas after running his tail off in that second chance to break Andreev. He just seemed out of confidence and breath after losing that game, and that was it.

    I'm really starting to wonder about Roddick's conditioning. Doesn't seem to have much left in final sets lately.
     
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  20. arosen

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    Chad, I think on clay Roddick just doesnt have the mindset it takes to grind it out, he has no touch at the net or midcourt, no dropshot (howdaheck can you play clay without dropshots) so he ends up stuck on baseline with no options, whereas all those argies and spaniards move in, side to side, lob, drop, you name it. Andy is just too used to muscleing the point, and that would never cut it on clay. It seems that it doesnt cut it on hard anymore either.
     
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  21. Count Grishnackh

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    I think his game has remained stagnant for a couple of years now, people get enough time to figure out how to beat him on the court. Get most of his serves back and you have a 50/50 chance of winning rallies, top that off with a lack of confidence and lack of improvement with his backhand and you get this. I don't know where he can go from here, it'll be tough for him to be better than 2003. Maybe he can play as good as that year but will it still be enough to do damage in 2006-07? The game seems to be passing him by and he hasn't made effective adjustments, now is it me or is his serve less explosive?
     
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  22. Andy Hewitt

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    Hewitt, Roddick..... ugh.... :(
     
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  23. Andy Hewitt

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    He's using a new racquet?? :confused:
     
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  25. 10nisNe1?

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    well, from what i saw on tv, roddick was hitting it straight down the middle while andreev were creating wicked angles esp. with the inside-out FH. i also thing roddick should start using the angles then go for the winner when the opponent's pulled wide, instead of just bashing it down the middle. that andreev though had really good footwork, or was he just tall?
     
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  26. grip-N-rip

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    Andreev has wheels. He also has a big forhand with lots of spin (extreme western grip) and good pop on the serve. He trained in Spain coming up, and has a claycourt game.

    I watched the two previous matches and he was playing well. Solderling got tight or the match was his. Had to go back to work, so no more IW. I didn't see the match, just reading comments.
     
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  27. tennissavy

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    The reason I dislike Roddick is the way he treats others. He is an arrogant, spoiled punk who is becoming a b a s t a r d of a man. His continued verbal abuse of the chair umpire and yelling the f word are perfect examples of what I am saying. I watched with pleasure as he was stripped of a point by the chair umpire. Roddick is lucky I am the chair umpire at his matches. I wouldn't put up with his abuse. I would love to see a chair umpire really chew him out in front of the world. Anyway, any match Roddick loses is worth watching.
     
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  28. Kartasco

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    Well said
     
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  29. arosen

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    This is so ironic. Roddick got carved by a guy that was wearing what used to be known as "Roddick" hat - Reebok shirt, and playing with Babolat stick!!! Andy's mojo is partying with some other guys, for sure.
     
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  30. Midlife crisis

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    No one, Roddick included, can hit any sort of effective angle when he stands **15 feet** behind the baseline. Only defensive players are back there.

    You know, some things seem so obvious, I just don't understand why no one in his camp can get him to see this.

    EDIT: Okay, so the Blake-Haas match finished early and they showed the Roddick match again. The clips I saw didn't do AR full justice. He did try to play closer to the baseline, but one good shot from his opponent and he's backing up just in preparation for the next shot. When he does take the ball on the rise, he can't hit effectively, and his backhand is a real liability because he too often hits it soft, short, and with no angle. There were times when he would be at the baseline, hit a not so good backhand, and start backpedaling to ten feet behind the baseline before Andreev would club a forehand.

    He's got some work to do if he wants to keep his top three placing. I hope he looks forward to the challenge.
     
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  31. superman1

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    The sad thing is Roddick was fighting throughout the match. He was trying his hardest on every point. It's such a simple situation that I can't understand why he doesn't see it. He takes forever to wind up for each shot, he doesn't get the best angles, and there's not enough pace - as a result, he doesn't hit that many winners. His backhand is a whole other story.

    Did anyone watch him yell "F*** YOU!"? It was so loud and audible it might as well have been yelled by the announcers. This guy has a short temper.
     
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  32. Lee

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    Who was he yelling F u c k YOU too?
     
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  33. StraightSets

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    The umpire, due to the point beforehand being replayed. It had something to do with the umpires microphone I think.
     
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  34. tennis-n-sc

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    The F/U got the code violation - warning.

    I didn't think A/R played badly, certainly not great. Andreev play a very good match. He was really zeroed in. But a top 10 player has to come up with a way to impose their will over a much lower ranked player. Andy is a head case right now and has lost his confidence. I don't think he thinks he can truly beat anyone right now. That thought is affecting everything he does on court. Dumb shots, falling back into defensive positions, poor shot selection. He goes way too much for the runaround forehand and leaves the whole ad court way open. Andreev was eating this up. Andy doesn't have the foot speed to recover. And I agree with several of you that it looked like he ran out of gas in the third set. Could have been a combination of conditioning and fear of losing. A killer.
     
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  35. TheNatural

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    Here's that wicked inside out forehand you're taking about. It's pretty good to watch up close.
    http://i.pbase.com/o4/47/644647/1/57328548.jpg.jpg





     
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