Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by quest01, Sep 16, 2012.
just use the google youtube app.
I downloaded iOS 6 for my iPad 3(using this as a type) and the maps are a little shaky. I was using the 3d flyover on Las Vegas and it takes a while to focus and it kind of has a cartoony look to it. As far as losing the YouTube app, that didn't really bother me but I noticed when I watch YouTube videos on my iPad in safari, it doesn't go to full screen mode completely, it shows the tabs and search bar on top which is kind of annoying. Overall I don't mind iOS 6, it seems to improve performance and speed. Also it adds Siri and this "do not disturb" feature which comes in handy.
For the fandroids and apple geeks
Typing this on my iPhone 5. It's gorgeous in person. A pity the maps are pretty poor. Fortunately, there's safari for google maps.
Agreed. Galaxy S3 is far better than iPhone 5.
Divide and conquer. You're all getting bent over while you argue over trivialities.
LOL genius thinking.
I dunno. I'm loving the iPhone 5 so far.
Everyone can and should choose what's best for them, but I've never used a phone as smooth and fast as the iPhone 5. That includes the GSIII that I've played around with. It may be have more powerful internals, but it's all about how that power is used in the real world. For me, this is as good as it gets.
The bar was set pretty low for me, since I despised my last couple Android phones. I know that Apple and iOS have shortcomings, but for me personally, I couldn't be happier with my choice. It's a good time to be a smartphone buyer, because there are a lot of great options out there.
I'm happy with my iPhone 5! The maps problem is a non issue because Apple will be updating it and there will be a update soon enough. People complained about the battery life when iOS 5 was released and Apple patched it up pretty quick.
It seems like we look for the same things, so this bodes well for me.
The S3's OS w/ touchwiz IMO is a waste of resources. Its a bad interface IMO.
That Lumia is pretty sweet looking. I may revisit Windows phones in 2 years and see how they grow. I think Windows should go exclusive with Nokia just because then there is no fragmentation. Fragmentation has weakened Droid and stregnthened Apple IMO.
I was 100% bought in to the 920 when I saw Nokia's demo. Then as I did more research I realized that 3% marketshare leads to a huge lack of apps and development. 50% of the apps on my phone aren't available for WP yet. I hope that changes, because I was so attracted that Lumia 920 that if they keep making phones like that, and the OS gets more developer attention, I could very well be bought in.
As for the iPhone, yeah, it's working for me so far. I've been blown away at the speed of the phone and how quickily it executes things. I'm very happy so far.
Thats what I need. The Windows phone has 2 years to develop and may be a major player in 2014. Read a report on that today. Works for me.
Forgot to ask how the voice to text is on the iphone. I use that function a lot on the droid.
I've only played around with it a little bit, but it's very accurate. Punctuation isn't the best (or i haven't figured it out yet), but it understands everything word wise.
The additions to Siri are helpful too. I was able to check scores and weather, it knew what I was talking about. The voice recognition in general has been good so far.
you were in love with your Droid phones at first as well.
Seems like your change in Network has as much to do with your new found delight as the iphone itself.
Sweet. What I do for punctuation is say "period" or "question mark" on the droid and it works. In fact the voice to text on the droid is one of the best parts for me about the phone.
This weekend I received 10 texts all at the same time - 3 hours late..thanks a lot sprint..made me look a little bad since I was setting a few things up over text. I can not wait to leave sprint - even more than just getting a new phone, the sprint service cant be gone fast enough.
Not having to root my next phone, deal with the lagginess and horrible multitasking is going to be so great as well. Wish I could blame sprint for that, but its not the case.
Again speak for yourself...
I multitask all day with no noticeable lag! Only problem with my Rezound was low battery life and side buttons too flush with the casing. Both were solved with a $25 extended battery and cover, options not even available on the Iphone!
Sounds like you 'rooted' your phone wrong; thought you were a tech guy
Yeah...This is an entirely different experience. Even when I got my Androids, they weren't anywhere near this good. When I talk about "speed", I'm not talking about data speeds (which are great), I'm talking about the speed of the phone itself. No phone I've ever owned or used has been this fast and fluid.
I know you find it impossible to believe that anyone could prefer the iPhone 5, but you can count me firmly in that camp.
Hmmm I didn't realize you couldn't have a cover (case) on the iPhone...
I unplugged my phone yesterday at 2:30pm. Used it relatively heavily the remainder of the day, now at 56% at 10am. I'll make it through the rest of the work day and most of the evening before I charge it again for tomorrow. Getting 30 hours of battery with moderate usage pretty much nixes any need for an additional or extended battery.
Again, it's all up to what people personally prefer. For years I thought I hated Apple and the iPhone, and that I loved Droids. After seeing my friends with iPhones still loving them after 1-2 years and beyond, and my own frustrations, I made the leap, and I'm happy I did. There are still amazing things about Android, and it's a great OS with some great phones. For people that like those, or WP, or Apple or whatever, great.
The mobile phone wars are getting out of hand.
I placed DRII on ignore because he is just trolling. You can tell by his past posts he is in here just trying to argue about a phone and stir things up, Its pretty sad, but he adds no value to the conversation. Probably just a young kid who needs attention.
Most people blame the user for things, but I have rooted droids for 3 years and know exactly what I am doing. Achieving S-off on my phone either happens or it doesn't. There is no way to make mistakes since a mistake returns a bricked phone or a bootloader that still says S-on. This is common knowledge that even the most basic user of an android would understand. DRII clearly does not even understand how to root a phone and has most likely never done it. He clearly is not an experienced Droid user in this instance. He is using antiquated technology (in cell phone terms) and is most likely angry or jealous that he does not have the disposable income for a new phone.
I posted in here sharing why I am switching to an iphone. I know my phones and have a lot of experience on the droid os and iOS. Just like Bigserver, I know what I want and have proven that I have made an educated decision. Iliterally have the exact same experience as Bigserver, and I sincerely doubt we are the only 2 people in the world with this thought process.
Also agree, an extended battery sucks. New phones are thin and I dont want to ruin that with an extended battery. It ruins the point. Really great to hear that about yor iphone. My droids battery is very good now, but only on some days when the multitasking doesnt surface and it burns the battery opening and closing apps in the background. Even freezing apps, uninstalling , and minimizing my phone usage has not solved the issue. guy I work with had the extra battery for the evo, and finally gave up and just got an iphone. I asked him again this week, and he said it is a "no brainer". Perfect for work and the battery and performance is far better. He has the 4S.
You can continue to do the same on the iPhone. I think you need at least a 3G signal for it to process as it goes back to the servers.
For me, dictation works really well. Better than I could have possibly imagined. Which is just as well, as being outside the US, Siri was useless for anything else (that's supposed to have changed with iOS 6, but I have yet to test it in anger). However, I do have one friend who just can't get the dictation working for him at all. If you asked me whether he has a strong accent or speaks in a slovenly way I'd have said not really, but there's clearly something about him it doesn't like. I don't know which of us is the norm, but I'm glad I came out on the good side!
Great..voice to text is just a savior in so many ways. I can not wait to compare the 2 and see which I prefer.
I keep reading that LTE is faster than people's wifi..wow. I cant imagine a fast snappy phone loading up that fast when I am out needing to pull a recipe for grocery shopping for example. currently that is not happening since my network sucks and opening my browser causes my phone to lag.
the more I see these windows phones, the more it seems as if windows and iOS are going to be battling in the future with droids just filling out the market. could be wrong, but those windows phones are moving up the ladder fast.
I don't read anything you post unless it is quoted, so you are wasting your time. Just throwing that out there. Maybe go somewhere else to troll?
All of which i can do on my phone for nearly a year now...
LOL, it's hard for me to lose perspective when I've used Android for 3.5 years and an iPhone for 3 days. I know what I'm talking about with Android, and just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm wrong. We've clearly had different experiences, which is fine, but I have zero regrets in leaving Android, even with the things you mentioned.
Apple maps is an issue. No doubt there (and I never said it wasn't), but Google has developed their own iOS app which is waiting on approval, and Nokia apparently has a solution in the works for iOS too. Add to it that Apple will improve their own app, and this isn't the biggest deal ever.
As far as flash goes, I never really found myself using it on my Android phone...Most embedded videos on websites and things like that are compatible with the iPhone, and Flash is certainly trending downwards in the grand scheme of things.
Voice and Data is a downside to Verizon and the iPhone, but they're working on deploying voice over LTE, which would make this a non-issue. Until then, it's a drawback that some other LTE phones don't experience. I typically only talk and browse at home, which is still entirely possible over WiFi.
Again, for some people, the above things might be dealbreakers. For people that want a huge screen, or absolutely have to have NFC for instance, those are deal breakers. For me? Not the case, and I'm happy with the decision I made.
wow..great point. Didnt know about voice/data over wifi. Also I did know about the voice data issue myself, but I made a note of how much I used both and it was pretty rare. I decided I wanted the verizon network more than anything as it is the best signal in my area.
There is no real need to justify the decision to one guy who is clearly upset and a little unstable about the phone talk. I just like to have rational discussions. that is what sucks about phone war people. You can say "hey I did these things to try and solve my problems and they just did not work, I dont think this phone is right for my needs" and the phone warriors will argue that you did it wrong, you dont know what you are doing, you are a sheep..etc. It is utterly bizarre to me.
If you really need flash on your phone for example, you can get Griffin browser. It has a free demo and is a couple bucks. No big deal. If you need a better gps than maps, there are hundreds in the app store. Once again, not a huge deal. In fact I would consider that a far easier solution than spending $25 on a phone case and god knows how much more for an unsightly extended battery just to have your phone last all day. I know the price ratio is in my favor by over $20.
By the time the LTE deployment is done and voice/data is working in a couple months, the apple maps app will probably be a lot better as well and people will be running out of things to argue about.
Yea, current with updated enhancements that do not work i.e. the iOS6 maps!
Plus, All those gingerbread androids have a proper mapping program that works, and with free (fully integrated and native) voice navigation -- something the Iphone 5 does not have!
I was just updated from ginger bread; everyhting worked great with it. ICS did bring some new features but nothing ground breaking. I know applebots tend to always want the newest shiniest thing on the block, hence waiting in line for a week and grossly over paying, but the last android build was very good and provided everything -- including features that the newest Iphone still can't manage or do!
And like I said, i have nothing against Apple (they're a corporation nothing more nothing less), I have a Mac at home. But I do have a problem with applebots or any other group of blinded, worshipping, excxuse making, followers!
Discerning consumers who choose the Iphone are just fine in my book...
so? did you decide which one is better?
I fought for the past 5 years against Apple while holding my beloved blackberries.
What a fool I was.
The iPhone simply works better than any gadget I've ever had. If it sucked I'd say it.
My post about the io6 crashes is no longer relevant as the crashing has totally stopped after a reboot.
iPhone 5 is truly near perfect.
I'm looking forward to getting the iPhone 5 soon.
If you are Apple lover, i think it is definitely worth it. I look forward to the day when our brain can directly interface with the Iphone.
I know the newer Android phones, and the operating systems they have are far better than previous version. It will be interesting to see if they still slow down and fragment over time though.
I don't think anyone needs to really argue. This thread should be mostly for people trying to make the decision. I think for the first time in a while there are two really good options out there. I wouldn't blame anyone for getting either phone. I could probably be happy with either myself:
I'm gonna jot down a few things that I have gathered from my research for myself (many of which have been covered in this thread to sum up and some opinions) that might help a couple people on the fence to make a decision or just confuse them more
-This iphone does not have NFC but the gs3 does
-IOS6 maps are very bad right now. I wouldn't trust them until they get updated heavily. I really hope apple approves the google maps app so people can at least use that until apple gets to up to speed with their maps. They seem to be poaching ex google maps employees and probably some current ones as well.
-All the iphone 5s on verizon come unlocked for gsm. So you can use them on any gsm network worldwide but with a nano sim which will become common in a few months or you can use a sim card cutter.
-verizon does not charge extra monthly to use facetime (it just comes out of your regular data)
-Anyone on verizon with a shared data plan is allowed to use their device as a hotspot for no extra charge
-You cannot use voice and data at the same time on the cdma iphones (verizon) (I think this is because they made a dual cdma/LTE chip to save room instead of using two separate chips)
-The iPhone 5 A6 chip has 3 cores and has a higher benchmark score than the gs3 update:iphone5 2 core cpu 3 core gpu
-The iPhone 5 has slightly faster (almost the same) download speeds with the same coverage than the gs3 but the gs3 has considerably faster upload speeds than the iphone 5.
-The GS3 has expandable memory with an sd card slot for upto 64gb but the iPhone does not.
-GS3 has a removable battery
-GS3 has a universal micro usb charging port while the iphone has a proprietary one
-Although the iphone 5 has a 720p front facing camera upgrade it is still a little less than half of the gs3 front facing camera
-The gs3 does not do wireless charging out of the box but if you buy a special backplate it can
-Luckily both of these phones are great with apps unlike my blackberry which I will miss and the windows phones which I would never buy even though I like Nokia
-another note: I really love my blackberry Bold 9930 (best keyboard ever, NFC, great email) but since I bought it no work has been done to make me stay as a customer but I would consider switching back the next time I buy a new phone if they adopt android apps fully in Blackberry 10 and show some initiative.
The iphone does not have NFC because there is not enough of a business case/market for it to be implemented, but apparently from a technical point of view its all set to go.
Not really an excuse because it is useful and the future (at least for now). Even my BB 9930 has it and it will have a market. Although I really like what they did with the iPhone 5 and almost guarantee it will be in the iPhone 5S.
Iphone sucks samsung ftw
ROTFLS. but that bear is little behind the times. Iphone 5 is out now, he can get that with faster 4G speed.
I remember when I first saw this. It is one of my favorite extranormal videos ever
That is definitely one of the best!
That video is so funny! Harsh but true.
To be honest, I don't know what all the arguing is about in this thread. Both are great phones that will appeal marginally more or marginally less depending on your own individual preferences.
I love the design of the iPhone and its app store but don't like the higher price, lack of expandable storage, and non swappable battery. Oh and the maps suck azz.
Love the S3 and its screen, its widgets, storage etc, but a slightly more geeky arguably more cumbersome interface. Also the voice prompts on Co-pilot on my S2 don't work properly when playing music. Not sure if they've now sorted it out.
Android is a stolen product.
I stand by Steve.
Must be like when Apple ripped off the UI for the Mac from Xerox.
Interesting commentary from TR regarding iOS6 and the maps debacle:
We all know about the problems of iOS Maps: limited local business information, no public transport, occasionally baffling directions and the odd ill-informed geography lessons. They also feature many woefully distorted 3D images which spawned the ingenious Twitter hashtag #ios6apocalypse. Apple was predictably terse "We launched this new map service knowing it is a major initiative and that we are just getting started with it". But it did not answer the bigger question: why start at all?
Arguably Apple did not answer, because it is aware we all know: iOS Maps is not a solution to a problem customers needed fixing, it is a solution to a problem Apple wanted fixing. It's name? Google. Apple's strength is its homogeny, but it comes from being a paranoid control freak and ever since Google announced Android, Apple knew it could no longer rely on a market rival to supply core parts of its operating system long term.
Consequently Apple bought three mapping companies - Placebase, Poly9, and C3 Technologies - in three years, but in a most un-Apple-like twist it still has to rely on correlating data from no less than nine third parties: TomTom, Yelp, OpenStreetMap, Waze, Getchee, Localeze, Urban Mapping, DMTI and MapData Sciences. Yes Apple embarked upon one of the largest and most data complex projects imaginable and risked alienating huge chunks of its customer base because of self serving insecurity.
Pride Comes Before a Fall
The problem is such a monumental undertaking has clearly taken up a huge amount of Apple's iOS development time and resources. iOS Maps is the only major new feature in iOS6 for a reason yet its realisation only makes the platform worse, at least initially. Now the backlash has started Apple has to give up even more time and resources which could and should have been spent elsewhere.
When will this end? It is hard to say. If Apple goes a step further and rejects a Google Maps iOS app the answer will be: for many years. Conversely if Apple accepts an app the risk is the feeling Google is riding to the rescue. It is also worth remembering, like YouTube, Google Maps on iOS was a crippled implementation. YouTube improved dramatically when its native restrictions were cut and Google could surely improve a Google Maps app far faster than Apple can resuscitate iOS Maps. The disparity would grow. In 2007 Nokia bought Navteq and Nokia Maps is now widely acclaimed. Given its role with Google and foundation in BlackBerry Maps maybe Apple should've just bought TomTom… but it didn't.
The millstone with a jet pack
All of which means iOS Maps is going to be a millstone around Apple's neck for years to come. Critics have even forecast it could spell the end for Apple, poetically brought down by its own ego. But to write off the biggest company in the world is foolhardy, regardless of whether it has bitten off more than it can chew. Yes iOS Maps is a long term money pit. Yes UIs are moving on from Apple's rigid grid icons towards dynamic widgets and tiles. Yes iPhone hardware is now largely playing catch-up, but Apple maintains a huge weapon: eight, five, seven, seventeen and three. [They are the number of updates Apple made to iOS before each significant upgrade.]
Apple can improve iOS for all in an instant with its unilateral software updates. Whereas Google Android 4.1 has barely passed one per cent adoption in three months, 15 per cent of all iOS traffic came from iOS6 equipped devices within 24 hours of its release. Apple knows Microsoft's Windows Phone 8 has the potential to do the same, but with just a four per cent market share - for now - there are bigger fish to fry.
As such, regular and innovative iOS updates need to flow throughout the lifetime of iOS6 and by iOS7 major reinvention must be the order of the day. Apple primarily made iOS6 to satisfy itself, in 12 months time the focus needs to be back on customers…
PARC is s stolen idea too silly guy.
Google Hasn’t Submitted a Google Maps App to Apple yet. So for those who are waiting for the google map apps might have to wait much longer. Google's way of getting back at apple, anyway win/win for google.
There is a free app called Waze that is really good as a GPS. People are attacking Apple so hard for this maps thing, but Waze was my app on Droid for GPS and will be on iphone as well. It is a great option since it shows you speed traps and traffic.
Basically I used Waze over google maps and will use it over apple maps, as will many millions of people. So I ask..is Apple Maps really this big of an issue or is more like a PR punch at Apple financed by Samsung?
They actually have, it's just pending approval by Apple. I'm not sure why Apple isn't pushing this through ASAP, but it's in their queue.
He cares because he is a simple troll with anger in his heart.
I love that he keeps coming back and showing how childish he is.
The rest of us are making solid posts about phones. I am have not had a huge issue with apple maps on my ipad. I dont use it much, but I checked it out and it was ok. Google Maps is the king, but I use Waze for GPS.
If you search for a store in safari, will it hotlink you to maps so you can locate it?
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