iPhone 5 or Samsung Galaxy s3?

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Which phone is better overall?

  1. iPhone 5

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  2. Samsung Galaxy s3

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  1. Power Player

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    All this "outrage" over iOS6 is blown up. Speaking from experience since my ipad2 has iOS6, I have had zero issues. It seems like the only people making a big deal out of iOS6 this week are people who do not even own an Apple device.

    Every time a product rolls out a new OS, there are issues. Droid, Windows, it doesn't really matter.

    A droid user with an antiquated phone says the iphone 5 has shortcomings. Yet you, a person who owns the phone and is not loyal to any company is perfectly happy..add Joel to the mix as well, since I know he was hardcore BB guy.

    Mine will not here until october 5, but when I see normal, rational people saying good things about the 5, it makes the 10 days wait seem eternal.
     
  2. BigServer1

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    I think so.

    I don't know what percentage of mobile phone users have navigation in their cars, but I can't imagine anyone using a phone over their car. I will find an address on my phone and then speak it to my car's nav system.

    People who don't have nav, or who use public transit a lot might be in more trouble with Apple maps. Because that's not my reality I guess it doesn't bother me as much. I also know that you can create a homescreen shortcut to Google or Nokia maps, a Google maps app is coming and there are dozens of third party apps on the market if someone needs another solution.

    I'll say this: Android phones have the best Mapping+Navigation feature baked into their phones. I had turn by turn on a MyTouch 3g in 2009. With that said, Google was never going to offer turn by turn on the iPhone, so I understand why Apple moved to their own maps. Customers wanted turn by turn, so they gave it to them...They had to compromise somewhere.
     
  3. BigServer1

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    Yeah...It's surprising, I've had a lot of people on FB and just friends in general that are saying "how could you ever leave Android?". Obviously a bunch of my friends also have iPhones and are happy that someone converted, lol.

    There seems to be a lot of backlash lately regarding iPhones in general. When I had (and briefly liked) my Android phones, I know I got sick of reading how "the iPhone is the best phone ever" on every review online...It did get old. Yet there I was with a 6 month old phone, that had circles run around it by iPhone 3GS and 4s, even though my phone "out spec'd" it in every way.

    Clock speeds and cores and giant batteries only matter if they work well together and function. The iPhone 5 battery is smaller than any premium Android handset on the market, yet it gets better battery life than any of them except the Droid Razr Maxx and (sometimes) the Samsung Galaxy SIII. This is largely the same as the processor...The iPhone 5 outbenchmarked the GSIII (running 4.0) and every other phone out there, even though it's a less powerful processor than many others.

    For me, the phone is working well, and I love the speed and fluidity of the device. If it stops working well, or I hate it, I'll sell it and get something else. The Lumia, the GS IV, who knows. I do think though, that I'll be happy with the iPhone 5 until I'm eligible to upgrade again.
     
  4. Power Player

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    I honestly think Waze is going to take over the mobile GPS market. They have been talking with Facebook, and while that sounds disastrous, what is happening with Waze is its a social app. The reason I like this is because it is the best way to see speed traps and traffic updated as fast as possible. They encourage people to update in different ways and it is just a well designed app.

    The google maps in droid is a great thing, but when my EVO LTE phone came it out in June it was not working for a ton of people (GPS radios were hosed). Many had to trade in their phones for a fix. So while people like to pretend everything is ok with their phones, the reality is it will never be the case with any model. If the worst thing is that Maps does not work, that is amazing. It really is.

    How about Droid with an audio latency of 100ms? It runs at 30 FPS? Less then 10% of its users even have the newest OS?

    Thats a travesty, and yet people want to point fingers because Apple doesnt have Maps working perfectly yet..lol.

    The irony is so obvious and sad.

    and just like you said - the benchmarks don't lie. I posted them in his thread and no one had a response to that one. People still say that the s3 is better..thats fine..explain the benchmark ratings at least or take them into account if you are going to make this claim.

    the iOS is so well optimized and the #s prove it. I would not be switching phones and carriers right now if I didnt have issues with both.
     
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    Upgrading to iOS6 was such a huge mistake.

    The Ipad is now just a huge piece of crap. I really enjoyed watching HD tennis matches on the youtube app rather than on my laptop. Now that you have to use Safari to go to youtube (without any full screen option, btw), I see no utility for the device. I had high hopes that I would use it for some tasks that I use my laptop for. Within a week I realized that I would rather do everything on my laptop rather than the Ipad.
     
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    Which Ipad do you have? I hear the 2 works better with ios6 than the 3 for some reason.
     
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    I have an Ipad 2. It runs very smoothly with iOS 6. It is beautiful device, but it is just very inefficient to use IMO.

    Watching stuff like this on the youtube app was a lot of fun.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqExjxCJr4Q&feature=related
     
  8. BigServer1

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    Have you downloaded the official youtube app from the store? By all accounts, the YT app is much better than the old, built in app on iDevices.
     
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    There is no YT app on the Ipad. I did download it for the iphone and I have to respectfully disagree and say that the new app is very poor compared to the built in one. First of all, the new app is essentially just the cluttered mobile version of youtube. Second, in the youtube app, you could access your favorite videos by either going to your history or checking in your bookmarked videos section. You can't do any of that anymore without youtube pestering you to log in with your gmail account.

    Maybe it is just me, but this really bugs me. I have been using the youtube app for the past 3 years. I really loved it. I probably used youtube app just as much as Safari.I am a tennis highlight junkie. :)
     
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    Yeah I know what you are saying. We could full screen HD videos in youtubes app and it was killer.

    The safari is not fullscreen but I believe you will see that change rather soon. What I like is I can now watch youtube apps inside the web page without having to open an app. I always found that clunky.

    Youtube was flash based...not so much anymore.this is one of the many signs of flash being phased out for HTML5. Another reason why the lack of Flash is not going to be an issue much longer for idevices.
     
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    I didn't know it wasn't on the iPad...Sorry 'bout that.

    I have a Gmail account, so I logged into the YT app and it's been working well for me. Reminds me of the YT app I had on my Android phones.
     
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    Yea I had similar sentiments that i posted on page 15 of this thread. I like both of them.
     
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    I actually had the rezound and it's a piece of crap! The battery life is the worst of any phone ever!!! Its clunky (its a brick compared to other phones on the market and the HTC interface is lame too). See I can flame people with substandard androids too! Doesn' take anything special to act like a d o u c h e
     
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    Actually I agree with most of your opinions here, just come to a very different conclusion.

    It did have horrible battery life; solved with the purchase of an extended battery for $25 (something you can't do with an Iphone).

    It is 'clunky'; actually more like robust and substantial and I like that! Not everyone has small dainty hands, and with the addition of the extended battery cover made the side buttons much less flush and easier to use.

    I didn't like HTC Sense at first either, but got used to it and enjoy it very much now! I have widgets and other options not available on the Iphone.

    And you make think its substandard, but I would call a 4in 720p HD screen, 4g LTE, native navigation, voice and data at the same time, flash support, built in youtube and google maps, premium Beats audio and headphones, and expandable storage options - pretty good -- especially considering its a year old and matches, if not beats, the Iphone in capability...
     
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    what about the google Youtube app?
    did you try it?
     
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    I have no issues with my screen, nor does my wife who got an iPhone 5 as well. The screen is actually really beautiful. The viewing angles are especially impressive. I think any time you have a release this big, certain people will have issues. Overall the phone has been great for me, and it's a good time to be a smartphone consumer, because there are so many good options out there.
     
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    Black iPhone 5 with Speck black/gray case: Epic Win. I'm in love with it. Add to that the Motorokr BT wireless headphones and you have Tiger Blood Epic Win.

    GS3 is a joke compared to this thing.

    GS3 seems like it was put together with about .02 cents worth of plastic.

    Oh wait, it was.

    Trollolol....

    :)
     
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    For me, the answer is yes. Obviously the extent is going to be related to how much you use Maps, and it may also be geographically based: for instance, I don't know if there are more data issues here in the UK than the US.

    There are two main reasons why I think it really is a big issue for Apple. The first is that it was the flagship change in iOS 6. It's the one that people were talking about, and the one we were all going to look at first. As you already know, one of the reasons to graviate towards Apple is that stuff 'just works'. So to release this App when it's clearly so far from completion is a real shock. You don't have to scratch too deep to find problems - it's not a case of having to look them up on some internet page - so they must have known about it and still went ahead anyway. And that... well, that just doesn't seem like a very Apple thing to do.

    The second reason is that along with this being the flagship change, there isn't that much 'meat' to new things in iOS 6. There are lots of little subtle changes, but nothing else to smack you in the face and wow you. This means that iOS 6 actually feels like a downgrade from iOS 5, for me at least. To be in a position where you feel you had something better and then lost it... yes, that's a big issue.

    Now don't get me wrong: I have no other problems with the changes introduced iOS 6, and I'm not going to switch away from my 4S yet. But in my eyes, Apple have failed to live up to their high standards with this software release. I just hope this doesn't become a trend.
     
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    I've been using ios6 maps for 5+ days now. It works fine for me.
     
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    This keeps coming up, but the Flash argument was lost last year when Adobe announced they were stopping development on mobile:

    Here's the full piece:

    http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html


    There's always been a YouTube app on iOS. BBC iPlayer and Sky Go both work on it. Most major websites have moved away from Flash. It may come down to surfing habits, but I can honestly say that I can't remember the last time I couldn't view a webpage on my mobile because of Flash content.
     
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    Have you ever used Sky Go and iPlayer on Android before? Just wondering how similar they are.
     
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    No. I haven't even seen them running on Android.

    On the iPhone, Sky Go is miles ahead of iPlayer in pretty much every way - the interface is slicker, it doesn't have any caching problems (iPlayer has a tendency not to refresh the schedule without restarting the app), and the playback is both smoother and higher definition. The last part is particularly noticeable on a 3G connection (fortunately I have unlimited data, so don't have to worry that it eats up about 100Mb every 10 minutes!).
     
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    Yeah, whenever i've used Sky Go on my iPad and old iPhone, it's been great. The tennis, cricket, football etc.. on the move is perfect. The unlimited data is certainly useful! What network is it you're on?
     
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    It's been a while since an iphone was the best choice amongst smartphones and nothing has changed about this. Go with the S3. It even costs less. The only reason to buy an iphone is the prestige factor but that's really not worth it imo...
     
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    I'm on O2, which is by far the strongest signal for me at home and work. The plan is actually from about 5 years ago and so long since expired.

    When I got my 4S (which I bought outright from Apple), I did try a 3 SIM, but coverage wasn't good enough. I've also been tempted by GiffGaff, but two things stop me jumping ship:

    - I like Visual Voicemail. I know it's a small thing, I'm sure I could live without it, but equally I know it would irk me somewhat to lose it.
    - Once I give up my O2 contract, I won't get that unlimited data back with them. In an ideal world I wouldn't need it, but I'm just concerned that the GiffGaff move may not work out and would leave me in a worse position. It would probably help if I knew people who actually used them, but not a single one of my friends does.

    Who are you with? Are there any other unlimited plans I've missed?
     
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    The improvements to the Iphone 5 have merely caught it up with the high-end androids. However, the iphone did not become market leader (by individual model, android is the most popular platform) for no reason. Apple is known for exquisite synergy in its innovation, but their loyal customers certainly pay a high premium for it.
     
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    Not certain I agree with you. If you're looking for sheer power under the hood, you're absolutely right. If you want the upmost customization and crazy amounts of options, you're also right.

    The issue is, 90% of smartphone care most about a consistent, fluid experience with their smartphone. They want it to work well, and they don't want to put in a lot of time customizing, etc. For those people, assuming they have the money, the iPhone is probably the best choice. There's still not a mobile phone as smooth and consistent as the iPhone. Android 4.1 is rivaling the smoothness of iOS thanks to project butter, the issue is that less than 2% of Android phones are running 4.1.

    For anyone who wants to tinker, or who has to customize, or who just wants the most powerful processor on the planet, Android is the go to. Android is also the way to go for people on a tighter budget, or those who want huge screens like the Note or Note 2. There are a lot of choices on Android, which is a huge selling point in the market and one of the big reasons why they've gained so much market share.
     
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    How do you know this :confused:

    Have you tested every other phone on the market? I doubt it.

    Plus, you're declaring the Iphone the smoothest and most fluid ever, after using it for less than a week :confused:

    Just given the problems with iOS maps, the iphone should not be considered the smoothest...
     
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    I agree (Apple's clout crowded out Adobe, which has now fully embraced HTML 5)...

    However, that does not negate the lack of flash on Iphones and Ipads and MacAirs for years; certainly degrading one's web experience.

    Even by the numbers, Flash is still dominate in 'developing rich, interactive Web content'; as Adobe puts it.

    My main issue is Apple consumers making excuses about it or pretending it never happened or had zero consequence.
     
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    This isn't the first time I've ever seen an iPhone...Their UI has been unparalleled in terms of fluidity since day one. Android is only starting to catch up. Now, WP8? From early looks, it seems like that might be a player in the smoothness department, especially on the Lumia 920 with the 60 Mhz refresh screen (fastest LCD refresh rate on any mobile phone). That should give the Lumia a buttery smooth interface with reduced image blur...Could be a seriously winning combo.

    Read any review of any Android phone. You'll always see the phrase somewhere that says "this is getting closer to the smoothness of the iPhone". It's not some big conspiracy, it's just how it is.

    The frames per second that the UI uses is DOUBLE on iOS to what it is on Android. Only with Jelly Bean (2% Android OS share) is the frame rate up to 60 FPS (from the 30 FPS they've used since 2008 ). This isn't just an opinion, it's a fact. One that's baked into Android and Apples OSes, and something that is brought up in every phone review ever (the issue of smoothness, not of FPS specifically).

    It's also not hard to see that scrolling, app loading, UI movements, etc. are smoother on the iPhone.

    Android does so much more in the background that it's impossible for it to be as smooth (for now). It's a drawback of a more robust and customizable OS (I'm complimenting Android, FYI, as I've done quite a bit in this thread).

    Maps doesn't take away from the visual fluidity of the iOS experience. It's a software blunder, sure, but it doesn't make the OS any less smooth. Less useful for now, for some? Sure, and maybe that's a reason to switch to Android/Nokia, but it hardly affects the way you scroll up/down a website or an app, or how quickly and smoothly apps load and transition.
     
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    THIS^^^^
    as i said before, fluidity is the secret magic.
     
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    Interesting! I'm on GiffGaff :)

    A couple of family members and friends are also on it. It works fine, it's basically the same service that O2 give you, same signals etc.. I do the £10 for unlimited texts, unlimited data and 250 minutes and have never had any problems.

    Another thing I like is that you always know what's going on with them, the forums are excellent and there is always someone who will do everything they can to fix any problem you have. I think there is a kind of rewards system for those who do, so they have an incentive.

    It's also pretty good as it's not a fixed contract, so you can take a few months off for whatever reason. My sister went to America for 3 months this summer, she didn't have to pay anything whilst she was away, topped up the day she got home and was back up again.
     
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    Yes, sir. I have it already. It is extremely different compared to the old app, which I was used to.

    The app pretty much has the same layout as the youtube mobile page. I really don't see the point of downloading it when I could have used Safari for it.

    Its cool. I freaked out initially, but I will begin to deal with it as I use my phone more and more. :)
     
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    I did not get that when you referred to fluidity you were talking about screen refresh rate and FPS. I assumed you were talking about the speed and refinement of the enitre operating system.

    How some of you can notice the FPS and refresh rate on 4 in screens is somewhat baffiling :confused: Motion blur or ghosting should be of little consequence on such a small scale and I have never notice it, but I don't use my phone for gaming so perhaps thats the difference.

    Pixel density is far more important IMO, and the Rezound is higher than the Iphone 5 and among the highest of any phone...
     
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    On paper droids look like beasts. And that is the problem. In tech, we are so used to looking at specs, especially those of us who have built pcs. That is a major mistake to make with cellphones and tablets . I didnt really get the power of ios until i got an ipad because on paper the ipad was not very impressive when they listed the ram and cpu.

    Different people see things different ways, but its been 3 years of droids rolling out massive specs and still lagging and force closing on me. A lot of this is due to htc or samsung overlaying their interface on top of droid which i believe will ruin these phones in the long run. I just dont see how anyone can pick up an s3 like i did and be more impressed with touchwiz than ios.

    The reason windows phone has a chance is because they use one os. You have to have that uniformity moving forward.

    And for people saying iphone 5 is catching up to the newest droids. We shall see. I currently have the newest droid that goes toe to toe with the s3 and im not that impressed with the experience. Im not a loyalist. If you read prior phone threads here you will see that. Ill tell it like it is because i always have. And i am telling it like it is with droid. 30 fps is very noticeable, crappy htc bloatware sucks, waiting over a year for a software update is unacceptable, and specs on paper dont mean anything in the world of cell phones. It is all about optimization.
     
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    Is that genuinely unlimited though or is it 'unlimited' subject to their fair use policies? I probably get through 60gb a month via my phones network but would be concerned that GG might not allow that.

    [Edit: Not possible apparently. Seems that with the standard phone/data contract called Goodybag, tethering isn't officially allowed, so you run the risk of them nuking you depending on your data usage patterns. Gigabags allow it but are subject to data caps which doesn't make it a good deal.]
     
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    Personally, I think the whole usability aspect of the iPhone UI is generally slicker than the Android equivalent. The latter is arguably more customizable but having to jump through several menus to reach a function can detract slightly from the experience.

    For example, I have to press 5 buttons (go through 5 screens) to connect my specific bluetooth headset (1 of 3 bluetooth devices I use), whereas they should allow a standard button to be created by the user by default that immediately connects to that specific blue tooth device by default. Yes, there are 3rd party widget apps, I not yet seen one that works reliably with ICS. How does the iPhone routine work in comparison?

    That said, Apple still need to move towards an equivalent to live tiles or widgets to keep up with the competition.
     
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    How in the world can someone use 60 gigs of data inone month on a phone :confused:

    How much idle time can one person have???

    Unless you're tethering the connection to other devices and don't have a home network...

    60 GB seems impossible over a mobile phone network :confused:
     
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    It got me all turned around once. Luckily I knew where I was going and just wanted to try it out :)
     
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    My highest downloads are usually around 5 GB/month and that is when I'm watching the Grand Slams or college football on my phone.
     
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    same here...

    I've never gone pass 4 gigs.

    'Normal' months when I'm not constantly streaming video, I've never gone over 2 gigs...
     
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    I hit 6 during the olympics :) Streaming at work and then when I'm not watching live stuff I stream siriusXM.
     
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    On my HTC, there was a "power manager" widget that was native. Not sure if it was Android specifically, or HTC's skin that made it possible, but I lovvveeeddd that widget. It controlled Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync and screen brightness all from the same place. I'd swipe to my second screen, and then have one touch access to all that stuff. I definitely miss that.

    Those are the things I loved about Android. Ultimately it wasn't enough to keep me around, but there were some badass things about their OS. Live wallpapers (even though they kill battery), and widgets were both sweet. Default options were also really nice. Didn't want to use their internet? Cool, download Chrome and set it as a default. It was a good deal.

    Fwiw, I agree with you about Apple and Widgets/Live tiles. My stock and weather widgets on the pull down menu on iOS are awesome...I wish they'd add that functionality to the home screens. I think it would really increase the look and feel of the OS, and with as powerful as the phones have gotten, I doubt it would affect performance/smoothness all that much.
     
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    That is about the same for me during "normal" months.
     
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    You'll be suprised how much bandwith arguing with mikeler on these forums about the stiffness of synthetic gut uses. He's very long winded. :)

    No, its WiFi tethering. It powers my home network as one mobile contract works out cheaper than paying for cheaper mobile contract + landline + broadband service.

    Smartphones seem to chew data like your won't believe. My bulk breakdown according to ICS for the last month is something like follows:-

    Tethering 40gb (which will feed an InternetTV service)
    US Open and some sports streaming 4.5gb
    Android OS 1.1gb
    Kiescast 0.8gb (basically Samsung's podcast service - I do a fair amount of travelling so need something to listen to)
    Audible (0.5gb - travelling again)
    Media 0.5gb (no idea what that is)
    Internet 0.3gb
    Tapatalk 0.25gb (haha!)
    Maps 0.3gb (mostly for street maps - travelling again)
    And a load of other smaller usage crap.
     
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    Wow :)

    What Samsung is it you use?
     
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    ^ Samsung Galaxy S2. Great phone but everything can always be improved so will be pondering the IP5 or S3 (or whatever is around) when it comes to renewal time next year.
     
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    Good one! Tethering explains everything. I'd be curious what my monthly internet bandwidth is. Just last night, I downloaded the latest iOS and also XCode for my Mac. XCode alone I think was 1.6 GB.
     
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    I have to know what my bandwidth is since I will be on a 2 gig plan at least to start.

    Ok my coworker got the i5 and put it right next to my LTE EVO and did a nice comparison.

    The iphone is indeed slimmer..this is very impressive as the new EVO is a slim phone. The iphone is better in terms of pocket fit due to this and the smaller screen. If you put your phone in your front pocket, the iphone beats the droids all day long in terms of fit and not sticking out in your pants.

    Difference between snappiness and graphics is surprising. The i5 is far more responsive to me. Granted her phone is 1 day old, but she did load all her apps and everything on it last night. The colors are richer, but what surprised me was the iphone screen was easier to read as well(both phones were set to auto bright). I did not think the EVO screen would be topped ( i prefer it to the s3, as I could have bought either phone when I bought prior) but I was wrong. I had 4 people and all of them instantly noticed that the iphone was far smoother with more depth, so it is not like I have amazing eyes or anything.

    As for size. I think I prefer function since the iphone felt so good in my pocket. The EVO takes up a ton of space. To me, that is very important. I have always liked smaller phones, and I remember when the trend was about how small your cell could be (remember the old school motorola flips that looked like a bullet about 10 years ago? - I had one). So first impression is that the iphone screen, while being smaller, actually is more functional this way and I do not think I will miss the huge EVO . In fact, I personally would prefer my touchscreens to stay at 4 inches and be thin. We could argue this all day so I will just say this is my preference and leave it at that.

    Played with apple maps. It was very smooth and accurate. Loading time (3d satellite view) was a little slow the more you zoomed around the area, but it looked pretty nice. I know there are issues with it, so I will just use it to locate places for now and use Waze as my GPS.

    first impression - I am very impressed with the i5. The wow factor comes more from the first "Q3 2012 smartphone" you try. Pick one - i5, One X, s3, Lumia...whatever - they all are sick and will wow you with how slim and light they are.

    The iphone5 just has a beautiful look to it that was exactly what I expected. I cant wait to have my own. Sorry if my opinion is not in line with everyone, but that is my true opinion from y first impressions that just happened at lunch today.
     

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