Is Davydenko violating his Prince contract?

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  1. BreakPoint

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    Apparently he'd rather win with the right gear than make a few bucks off prince but lose.

    He needs every edge he can get when he faces fed in the semis.
     
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    How do you know he's going to even make it to the semis? Are you saying he's going to beat Nalbandian in the quarters?
     
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    he definitely has a chance against nalbandian, ill give him that. as for the shoes, prince probably just doesnt make shoes that are suitable for clay or have a clay court sole so he probably just bought a pair of cc oscillates and prince let it slide. when us hard court season comes rolling around im pretty sure hell be sporting princes like he was in the start of the year hard court season
     
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    Yes, which points up the problems for manufacturers when tennis is declining in popularity (vs population gains and other sports). I'm surprised we have such a large choice of racquets given the demographics of tennis.

    Unless tennis makes a magic comeback, don't be surprised if we have fewer tennis shoe and equipment manufacturers in the near future.

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    why in hell is tennis declining in popularity???
     
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    (he means in the us)
     
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    Because people are getting lazier and would rather sit in front of a computer posting on an Internet message board about tennis rather than actually playing tennis. ;) LOL
     
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    Ya think???? LOL LOL :)

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    During his match against Dalbandian the commentators were talking about his clothes. They said they were suprised he doesnt have a clothing contract by now, and they were making fun of his plain white shirt, black pants, and "6 year old nike shoes that looks like he borrowed them from someone":rolleyes:
     
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    Reasons for the decline of tennis:
    (some surmise involved)

    1. Golf won the battle for your average middle class male's sport of choice. Golf is seen as a sport for the successful. Tennis is viewed as a weenie sport for the limp-wristed, effete snobs from Cali. :)

    2. Two-thirds of Americans are obese or overweight. If you were 300 lbs would you drink beer and smoke cigars with your buddies at the golf course or actually get some exercise?

    3. Other sports (new sports) have drawn athletes from tennis. In the last 20 years sports such as soccer, snowboarding, etc. have outdistanced tennis. Bowling is much more popular than tennis, and bowling is easily the most boring game on the planet, IMHO. In England, darts is more popular than tennis. Weep, England, weep....

    4. Video games and computers. Teenagers will post about obesity here in the forums but won't get off their fat keisters and do something about it.

    5. The ubiquitous junk food and fast food availability.

    6. Old men who sit at their computers whining about swingweights when they could be organizing a youth tennis league. :) j/k

    Anyway, middle class kids are doomed to an early death from heart disease or diabetes or other degenerative diseases unless they grab themselves by the division point of their buttocks and yank.

    Is it an accident that England and the US and even Australia produce so few decent tennis players these days? And that Eastern Europe and Russia and South America are producing so many?

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    Actually on the tennis channel this week, they had said that Golf sales are actually down and tennis sales are up. The USTA claims it's highest membership in years so I think tennis is making a comeback. I know that in the Boston area, if you don't get on a USTA team by march, for the summer season, you will be locked out of getting on a team because there are so many people trying to play. On the other hand, USTA tournament participation is down, I think primarily due to the time committment of a whole weekend if you win. I know the public courts in my area are always very busy mid afternoon and early evenings when the weather is good.
     
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    I hope you are right, but golf participation is, what, about three times tennis participation? Also, the numbers I last saw indicate that tennis is 25th on the list of sports played by Americans and relative tennis participation is down (vs population growth).

    Let's hope some lights go off in some "collective brains" that tennis is calorically more "expensive" than golf and offers some health benefits not found in golf. Americans need to get back to fitness in huge numbers. Tennis is a great option.

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    Yeah, that's how knowledgable most of these commentators are about tennis gear. :rolleyes: I'd bet the great majority of the people on this board know a lot more about tennis gear than these commentators do. I'd bet they didn't even know that Prince even made tennis clothes.
     
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    Going back to the Prince contract, if you also look at all Prince complete contracted players, none of them actually play with Prince shoes....maybe speaks of how inferior the shoes play. While Davydenko plays with Oscillates, Ai Sugiyama plays with Nike Air Lumifys and Lisa Raymond plays with Nike Zoom Animos.
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    I guess it's difficult to paint job a pair of shoes. ;)
     
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    Im afraid you're wrong (friendly way guys im not trying to incite anger) Davydenko is one player who DOES play with prince shoes atleast at times this and last year he did. Check pics from the Masters Cup hes wearing black and blue (if my memory serves me well) prince shoes
     
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    Does Prince make clay court shoes? Prince head-to-toe players Davydenko, Sugiyama, and Raymond were all wearing Nike shoes during the entire clay court season.
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    Actually, they do paintjob some pros' shoes by changing the insides with more or less cushioning and/or different soles, things that TV viewers can't easily see so that the public thinks they are wearing a certain model of shoes when, in fact, what they are wearing can be completely different than the retail version.
     
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    Not that I'm aware of.

    Jonnyf, your link is not working.
     
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    Actually the Prince T-10 is a great shoe. I'm surprised not more pros are wearing it.
     
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    I don't think Davydenko has a clothes sponsor, he only has reacket sponsor. I think Prince gives him free stuff that Daveydenko can wear some times. Same thing with Ferrero
     
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    Great obs.

    BTW, I don't see anything on his shirt or pants, however, yes, I see this:
    http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/playerprofiles/default2.asp?playernumber=D402


    However, I am not sure about his status with Prince.

    I just watched him for the first time in the tournament and indeed he's using the Oscillates, my preferred shoes.

    Perhaps, like myself, he's suffered from Plantar Fasciitis and needs a definite cure:)

    They certainly helped me. Great shoes.

    BTW, Brad Gilbert said about him "he's using these 6 year-old Nike shoes."

    The 2005 for CLAY was available last year in Europe and Davydenko probably realized his feet are worth more than a contract. I mean, saw the light at the end of the tunnel in terms of good shoes.

    Sampras and the whole French Team know that for many years.


    BTW, as per the shoe forum, the Oscillates are coming back.
     
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    I have some Prince shirts and shorts and their logos are usually very small (just a small "P") and in the same color as the rest of the shirt so it almost blends in to the point of being almost invisible. I guess Prince is not as ostentatious as some other brands like Nike and Adidas in wanting to hype their brands and make their logos into status symbols. Prince has a more mature, understated look IMHO for older players.
     
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    Jan-Mike is fully contracted Prince player, he plays in their shoes (or he will when he comes back). Last year, his shoes weren't ready at the beginning of the grass season so Prince allowed him to wear his old adidas shoes. This year the ATP required all players to wear clay soles for clay tournaments (I don't think they did this last year) so Prince may not have been ready for this and may have allowed their players to wear other shoes. All of the Prince players should be wearing Prince shoes for the grass and hardcourt seasons.
     
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    Yonex and Babolat didn't make any special clay shoes for their players...
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    about them mandating that, i noticed Feds AZVS had aclay sole wihch was werid for him becuase with the s2s he wore the normal sole and last year he had the stock Vapor speed sole, but now he has the clay sole. THey did it so no one could wear grass court shoes and ruin courts like coria did a year or two ago.
     
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    the commentators on ESPN where cracking on him for having no clothing contract. I believe it was Brad Gilbert who said "....he has 6 year old shoes....prolly borrowed them from someone else"
    This was during the Nalbandian match
     
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    we all know nike and prince are not competitor, nike is more more above pince, maybe the main competitor to prince is yonex but not nike
     
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