Is fed a poor sportsman?

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Is fed a poor sportsman when he's losing a match?

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  1. MasterTS

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    Okay so we all recall the incident in 2007 Wimbledon Finals when Fed was crying like a baby because hawkeye wasn't going his way. He wanted it turned off and claimed hawkeye was beating him up, rather than Nadal beating him...

    And than just a few days ago Fed cries to the umpire because Del Potro took extra time to challenge a call. Not only did he cry, he used profanity!!!

    How come fed always acts a bit unsportsman-like when he's in the losing position?

    Granted we don't see him lose much so we don't know how unsportsman-like he really is, I predict as he ages and goes down in the rankings, we may see more and more of the dainty poor sportsman act from fed.
     
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  2. sureshs

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    His gentlemanly image is a facade. Underneath, he is another Serena.
     
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  3. AR15

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    Fed had a string of things go against him yesterday, and was understandably frustrated.

    He had the ace taken away because Delpo saw something move.

    Fed thought he had some bad line calls.

    At the end he showed his usual class. He is a sportsman and a gentlemen, but he's human too.
     
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  4. All-rounder

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    Asking for a hawkeye challenge when players are about to enter their seats is way too late.
     
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  5. Olorin

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    "He had the ace taken away because Delpo saw something move."

    I never really understood the point of that. Why was Fed not awarded with that point ? He served an ace. So what was the problem ?
     
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    Every man has their breaking point. Including Fed. He is still a class act.
     
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  7. timeisonmyside

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    In the semi final against Djokovic, when it was tight in the first set, Djoker servers a nice serve out wide in the deuce court. Fed was only able to knick it with his racket. The linesman called the serve good, but the chair (Norm Chryst) overruled. Djoker challenged the overrule and Hawkeye confirmed that the serve was good.

    At this point Norm must have had a brain freeze, because he called a let and then played the point over again. The overrule clearly did affect Federer's ability to return the serve. In fact the original line call was 'in'. No way could the overrule have happened in time on a first serve. Djoker should have been awarded the point.

    Even Mary Carillo at the time said she was surprised Fed didn't concede Djoker the point. A similar thing happened in the third set with Fed comfortably ahead. This time he conceded the point.

    So Fed is only a sportsman when he has nothing to lose.
     
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  8. MasterTS

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    He should complain about it but when he starts using profanities... then thats too much!
     
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  9. All-rounder

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    Yes it was wrong but the ump should not have gave federer the hand to the face and told him to keep quiet
     
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    The chair ump was a spineless wimp that couldnt control the match. It was pathetic that someone of his caliber was allowed to call a GS final like that.

    It wasnt Delpos or Feds fault they were just playing and trying to make do but the ump couldnt make consistent decisions or even rational ones at times.
     
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  11. egn

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    Whats funny was he was winning at that point.
     
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  12. kimbahpnam

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    So let's list the compendium of players that qualify as "poor sportsmen" based on using profanities during a match (that people have heard...because we know if we don't hear them that means they don't use profanity at all).

    McEnroe
    Roddick
    Sampras

    ..add your names
     
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  13. Dutch-Guy

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    Djokovic was 7-1 against linesmen.Did he go apesh!t too?
     
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  14. rocket

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    Nadal does it too when he loses a point, in Spanish.
     
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  15. tlm

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    Not when he is winning.
     
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    What more do you people want? He was incredibly gracious in the ceremony, having lost the match.
     
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    Even the best of us "cuss" (use profanity) every now and then. At least Fed didn't cry this time.
     
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    IMO on a day to day basis, he seems like a nice guy but yesterday during the US Open Finals again Del Po, he was just rude.

    Sometimes small incidents like that put people off.
     
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  19. AR15

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    OMG! He said the "S" word, so he is not a sportsman.

    Stupid thread award.
     
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  20. Blinkism

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    No.

    1 or 2 instances of poor judgement shouldn't overshadow Federer's good sportsmanship and fair play for the last 5+ years.

    He's not perfect, but he is not a poor sportsman - far from it.
     
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  21. r2473

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    Is the question if he displays poor sportsmanship or if he is a poor sportsman?
     
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  22. Emelia21

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    Yes he was and so he should be, at least he didn't cry this time :)
     
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  23. Aces09

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    lol, seeing and hearing federer say S_hit was the greatest thing ever. ^_^ I laughed for 10 minutes..It just shows that federer is human...we all get pissed off when things arent going perfectly, I think Delpo shouldn't have gotten to challenge after like 15 seconds. Thats against the rules and he was wrong, but I don't think fed knew a microphone was recording his outburst
    xD

    But delpo did outplay federer, he made beautiful returns off feds weak second serves, and outplayed federer from the back of the court. I think if Fed had serve/volleyed he would've won. But alas we'll never know. Now federer will never break the tilden record for consecutive us open titles...we'll have to wait for the next ultimate tennis champion...I don't think any of the current top players can do it.
     
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  24. icedevil0289

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    Great Post!
     
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  25. TensProfes

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    If you're just doing this to spark conversation (or trolling), then I apologize for addressing your comment factually, but it would appear that you're wrong. There are dozens, maybe even hundreds, of press conferences where Fed gave lots of credit to the other guy and said how well they played. I don't know where you get your information from, but it seems more geared to starting an argument than being accurate. Just do a search on YouTube and you'll find him praising many other players. And please provide more information about the time when he called Rafa one-dimensional. I'm guessing that the comment is being presented out of context, as the relationship between Fed and Rafa has always been characterized by mutual respect.
     
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  26. Turning Pro

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    Like i said before, he's great when he's winning..........But another Serena when he's not......
     
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  27. icedevil0289

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    if you had an ounce of objectivity, you would know that fed said that a few years ago and at that time, rafa was one dimensional. I know many of his fans, at least those who are rational, who have admitted that rafa was one dimensional at that time. He pretty much played the same way on all surfaces and while it was affective, it was still one dimensional.

    Since then rafa has improved very much and adapted and roger acknowledged that.
     
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  28. TensProfes

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    For example, here's his quote after losing the Australian Open this past January:

    "I think he (Rafa) made the more important points today. He did play well, and served really well when he had to..."

    Sounds like he gave credit, as far as I can tell.
     
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  29. pmata814

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    I don't think we'll be seeing him cry anymore. He's accomplished everything he wanted. Everything is just icing on the cake from here on out.
     
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  30. Emelia21

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    I wouldn't be so sure about that :)
     
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    only when he cries
     
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    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4474389 <--0:50
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvZbDDe4eOE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKhPQqul7_Y#t=1m0s

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEpNuRDLpyg


    You be the judge. :-?
     
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  33. Gorecki

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    in the Djokovic ace incident in the semis Fed behaved in the worst manner possbile,

    not only didnt he concede the point but he also challenged the in replay...

    shameless!!!!
     
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  34. The-Champ

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    I wonder what you guys think of people like Cantona...
     
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    i think he was a footbal player and he has no place to be discussed in a tennis forum...:evil:

    ps: oh... and the ultimate idiot too
     
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  36. The-Champ

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    Even though I'm a Nadal fan, I find it absurd to call federer a bad sportsman. Thus, I was wondering what people think of Cantona (another sports figure) who karate kicked a spectator in the head, to draw comparison with Federer's "tiny verbal outburst".



    ps: thanks for the idiot remark...Idiot!
     
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  37. film1

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    This is a simple truth and you can plug it into tennis, relationships and life in general.

    "It's easy to be polite and nice when things are going your way. You usually don't see a person's true colors until things do not go their way, it has nothing to do with right or wrong, fair on unfair because life is unfair at the core and this does not change who you are'"

    "It's in the times of hardships, divorces, break ups, losses, trials and tribulations that we and others see our true colors."

    This is a fundamental truth and one of life's great lessons.
     
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  38. Gorecki

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    well.. thanks for insulting me for not liking Cantona and thinking he is an idiot...
     
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  39. SempreSami

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    Cantona didn't get the guy in the head and was wrongly punished.

    Plus he was a million times the player everyone seems to think Zidane was.
     
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  40. The-Champ

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    oh sorry man..:oops: I missunderstood.


    I agree.
     
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  41. DarthFed

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    ooh he drops an s word and people are comparing him to serena?

    still the fed bashing isn't as bad as i'd thought...
     
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  42. Gut Feeling

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    Im not sure if its true but I heard that after losing to Nadal Roger called him one dimensional and accused Nadal of cheating through uncle Tony coaching. Is that true?
     
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  43. tlm

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    Yes that is true, feds real colors show when he is losing.Anyone can be a good winner.
     
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  44. TheFifthSet

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    Well, he did say the f-word 3 times as well.

    But no, Federer is a good sportsman for the most part. Not the saint that the media portrays him to be, though . . . .
     
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  45. big bang

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    he is nothing but a big crybaby.. I am so sick of his goodguy image!!
     
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  46. ASL

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    Yes, Federer is a baby.
     
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  47. mandy01

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    Wimbledon 07-The umpire himself said he couldnt believe the ball was in.

    USO 09-Has been discussed to death.His anger, again, was at the act not the subject.

    But then again the OP seems to be a Nadal fan so these kinds of threads are pretty much expected.
     
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  48. mandy01

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    The lovely *******s need to know that Roger did NOT question the effectiveness of Nadal's game.He wasnt even questioning his game surface-wise.What he explained was that Nadal's game was effective , just not very layered.And anyone who knows tennis knows it wasnt very layered at the time.He improved added weapons to his game.
    His BH wasnt as great as it is today nor was his serve,nor was he agressive to fast HC .
    The lovely *******s also need to know that when Roger accused Toni Nadal of on court coaching( note-That he made it perfectly clear his problem was only with Toni not Rafa himself) the umpire himself had looked at Toni THRICE during the match which was made Roger say later "Just throw the rule book away".Uncle Toni can be vocal during tight matches,we've seen that.
     
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  49. big bang

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    so you think when anyone says Fed is a bad sportsman, then he must be Nadalfan?? get real!! some people just cant see the reality due to their (Fed)obsession.. the guy is a big baby
     
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  50. mandy01

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    Most of the crap somes from Nadal fans. And if thats what you're going to judge Fed on I can recount a number of instances from various players considered to be all 'humble'.
    All in all the OP's nitpicking.
     
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