Is Grass still Federer's best surface? or is it really hardcourts?

[NikeWilson]

after today's result, i'd have to say that grass was not too kind to Federer.
he got beat by a clay-courter.
i actually think it's clearly evident that Federer's best surface is hardcourt. because the ball bounces truer. it's the only type of court he has the advantage over Nadal with. for now, atleast.
but then again, Djokovic is the better hardcourt player than Federer and Nadal.

 

[Hot Sauce]

You have a case here. The US Open will tell.

 

[edberg505]

after today's result, i'd have to say that grass was not too kind to Federer.
he got beat by a clay-courter.
i actually think it's clearly evident that Federer's best surface is hardcourt. because the ball bounces truer. it's the only type of court he has the advantage over Nadal with. for now, atleast.
but then again, Djokovic is the better hardcourt player than Federer and Nadal.

 

[kobe3pointer]

dont even say djokovics name. thanks

 

[thevidrohi]

Haha, that graphic is really coming in handy...I just can't believe the Djokovic bandwagon is still running full steam...

 

[Hot Sauce]

Oh wow, I didn't even read the last sentence of his post. Shameful, just shameful.

 

[NikeWilson]

how can you count Djokovic out??
dude destroyed Federer in straight sets earlier this year at the Australian Open.
and Djokovic should've won last year's US Open! but he choked both of the first 2 set points away. this year, if there's a rematch, Djokovic will kill Fed hands down.

 

[bladepdb]

after today's result, i'd have to say that grass was not too kind to Federer.
he got beat by a clay-courter.
i actually think it's clearly evident that Federer's best surface is hardcourt. because the ball bounces truer. it's the only type of court he has the advantage over Nadal with. for now, atleast.
but then again, Djokovic is the better hardcourt player than Federer and Nadal.

Calling Nadal a clay-courter is opening up the gates of hell. People will start to go on and on about how he's won more ATP hard court tournaments than any clay courter around, and although he hasn't had his best results in AO/USO, he's inching his way closer (semis at AO is a proof of that). And he just beat Federer on grass. But I digress too much and people will start to pull the argument that the grass at Wimby this year was suited for baseliners, etc etc.

How was the grass not kind to Federer though?

Federer still had a phenomenal, no-sets-dropped tournament until the finals. He defeated Hewitt, a former Wimby champion, and Marat Safin in form, both in straight sets. He had a tremendous 70%+ first serve percentage and hit over 100 aces throughout the whole tournament (that averages to over 13/match). His match against Nadal saw a huge number of winning shots (yes the errors were there and brought the differential to about even....differential of +37 with 89 winners from Federer, +33 with 60 winners for Nadal). Federer proved his serve was still a tremendous force to be reckoned with by firing away 25 aces in the match, proof that service is still a weapon at Wimbledon. What lacked was Federer's execution at net and his inability to convert break points.

I fail to see how it has anything to do with the grass not being kind to him.

PS: I am a Nadal fan all the way, but Federer fought immensely hard and to underrate him on grass is still something I would never do.

PPS: Oh and Nadal and Federer only differ on hardcourts in how far each has gotten in a tournament. Their head-to-head record on hard is 3-2, Federer, so comparatively Federer doesn't have a huge advantage over Nadal on hard courts...Nadal just doesn't have an overall advantage on hard that we've seen yet.

Djokovic better than both Nadal and Federer on hard court? *Giggles*

 

[bladepdb]

how can you count Djokovic out??
dude destroyed Federer in straight sets earlier this year at the Australian Open.
and Djokovic should've won last year's US Open! but he choked both of the first 2 set points away. this year, if there's a rematch, Djokovic will kill Fed hands down.

Can't call Djokovic out, no. He's still a force to be reckoned with. Maybe. Unless he's gonna be a one-slam-wonder by choking the rest of his tournaments like he did in Wimby.

Djokovic shouldn't have won last year's USO. Federer beat him by being the better player, mentally and game-wise. Why does Djokovic then "deserve" last year's USO?

He destroyed Fed at AO. True. Federer was battling mono. While I normally don't buy that injury crap unless you can physically see it (e.g. Nadal and his tendonitis), and considering that Fed even made it to the semis with mono, you still have to give the benefit of the doubt to Federer. He hasn't choked that badly since that match (even though he has had his share of losses, he hasn't lost them in straight sets as poorly as he did in AO since).

 

[Hot Sauce]

how can you count Djokovic out??
dude destroyed Federer in straight sets earlier this year at the Australian Open.
and Djokovic should've won last year's US Open! but he choked both of the first 2 set points away. this year, if there's a rematch, Djokovic will kill Fed hands down.

The guy had mono. The same viral infection that has put many other ATP players out for months. He played WITH it.

 

[Nadal_Freak]

Indoor hardcourts would be ideal conditions for Fed against Nadal.

 

[alonsin]

I still think grass is Federer's best surface. In grass only Nadal can beat him, and not by much. In hard courts he can be beaten by Djokovic, Nadal, Nalbandian and Safin (I'm not putting Fish or Roddick in the list because I consider both of them fluke wins) I also think the same players can win him on clay.

That being said, I consider Federer the favourite in the USO. Not that much in the AO.

 

[drive]

LOL, that graphic rocks, i can't stop laughing every time you post it.

 

[ksbh]

I was of the same opinion as well ... until yesterday.

After watching the way Federer went down to Nadal in the Wimbledon final yesterday, here's my prediction ... if Federer-Djokovic meet in the U.S. Open this year, expect to see Federer sweep Djokovic aside just as he did last year.

how can you count Djokovic out??
dude destroyed Federer in straight sets earlier this year at the Australian Open.
and Djokovic should've won last year's US Open! but he choked both of the first 2 set points away. this year, if there's a rematch, Djokovic will kill Fed hands down.

 

[tennis_hand]

after today's result, i'd have to say that grass was not too kind to Federer.
he got beat by a clay-courter.
i actually think it's clearly evident that Federer's best surface is hardcourt. because the ball bounces truer. it's the only type of court he has the advantage over Nadal with. for now, atleast.
but then again, Djokovic is the better hardcourt player than Federer and Nadal.

pure BS. Nadal also lost on his clay. can u say he is not good on clay?

Sampras also was beaten on grass. can u say he is not the best on grass with 7 titles?

U can't win forever. Period. But losing doesn't mean u won't win again.

 

[ksbh]

I don't know what the hell you're trying to prove with this useless point. Trying to belittle Nadal by still insisting that he's a clay-courter when he's just won Wimbledon or trying to belittle Federer because he lost to a 'clay-courter'.

Anyways, these 2 great players will end up doing for Tennis what no other rivalry has done in the open era. Anyone has any idea what kind of ratings the final drew?

after today's result, i'd have to say that grass was not too kind to Federer.
he got beat by a clay-courter.
i actually think it's clearly evident that Federer's best surface is hardcourt. because the ball bounces truer. it's the only type of court he has the advantage over Nadal with. for now, atleast.
but then again, Djokovic is the better hardcourt player than Federer and Nadal.