Is it harder to slice balls that are flat?

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  1. xrxpapi12

    xrxpapi12 Rookie

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    yay or nay
    the situation is a guy who has good movement and wants to slice a lot (which I hate) isn't it harder for him to do that if i whip out flat balls on him?
     
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  2. Heroesque

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    I would think no. It's easier to slice low shots, instead of something that kicks up.
    Would you want to slice something
    A) Shoulder-height
    B) Waist or Knee-height
     
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  3. xrxpapi12

    xrxpapi12 Rookie

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    its weird cuz two guys i play with seem more likely to do it when the ball is near shoulder height....
     
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  4. Djokovicfan4life

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    I would agree here. Very tough to hit through the ball enough at shoulder height when the natural finish is around waist height. So I end up chopping the ball too much, which is really useful only for angled short slices. As far as driving it deep I'll take anything from even shin to waist height over shoulder height any day.
     
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  5. ronalditop

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    Spinny balls are much tougher to slice than flat ones.
     
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  6. ManuGinobili

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    ^^^ Yup 10 char
     
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  7. Zachol82

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    Considering that it's next to impossible to hit a completely flat ball AND considering that after the ball bounces, it's going to have topspin added onto it even if someone was able to hit a completely flat shot...I'm going to say that no, it's not harder to slice flat balls.

    However, flat balls tend to stay lower, has a longer stretch, and people who hit flats tend to put a good amount of pace on it. If you're lazy and doesn't want to bend your knees, the lower flat-balls may bother you. If you're not used to the timing, from that long stretch and pace a flat ball produces, you may have a problem.

    Overall, slicing a flat isn't harder than slicing a topspin or slicing a slice.

    Slicing a topspin will add more spin in the same direction of the ball, causing the ball to bounce shorter from the increased backspin.

    Slicing a slice will change the direction of the spin, therefore the ball will pop up higher and has less backspin on it. To me, slicing a slice back is probably the most difficult scenario. It's easier to miss the sweet-spot when slicing a slice and the backspin it produces is pretty low.
     
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  8. larry10s

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    its the high balls that are hard to slice not the low ones.
     
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  9. LeeD

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    My take..
    Flat shots are the easiest for you to slice. The incoming ball has no spin that you need to overcome. Fast, you can prep earlier.
    Higher shots are EASY to slice, easier than topspin. Just change your grip to more radical SW or E backhand. OR, turn your shoulders more with your normal volley/serve/overhead grip.
    Low balls are easy to slice. It's natural to just start high and reach down.
    Old farts slice. Old farts are not dumb. Old farts always try to conserve energy with the most efficient shot, thous not always the prettiest. Slice is the most energy efficient of the groundstrokes.
     
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  10. charliefedererer

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    By any chance to they have one hand back hands? For many players with a 1HBH, it is harder for them to topspin high balls so they slice these back routinely. Even many with 2HBH's do this, and if they have seen that this bothers you, may be making a point to do it routinely.
     
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  11. Slazenger07

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    Sorry but that's a silly question. Certain people will have more trouble with it than others of course, everybody plays a little differently and have easier or harder times dealing with certain shots.
     
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  12. LeeD

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    Good point there, Slaz07, and one that we should always remember.
    Just my view, I can easily volley flat soft balls. I can volley medium paced flat balls. I sometimes get late for fast moving flat balls.
    However, add a VARIETY of topspin and backspin, hit it 3" over the net, and hit it hard, I start to mostly have trouble!
    For me, flat spinning balls are easiest to volley.
     
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