Is it probable that Nadal will retire now?

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  1. TheCanadian

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    I think his loss to Rosol destroyed him mentally. His knees looked fine at FO and Wimbledon. This long absence is abnormal.
     
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  2. dudeski

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    One can sure hope.
     
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  3. 90's Clay

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    Well he's only missed a slam.. He should continue going (if he can physically).. There a lot of slams to be won out there with this crappy new generation of players we got
     
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    Yet more nonsense.

    The only influence I see the Rosol match having is that he could well feel that it isn't worth playing through the injury if he's not going to be able to win.
     
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  5. Clarky21

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    You really think a loss to Rosol detroyed him mentally? Nadal lost 7 straight finals to Cvac and still managed to beat him 3 times this year,one of those in a slam final. If anything was going to destroy him mentally ,it would have been the ownage Cvac had over him last year. Not losing to some nobody mug like Rosol.
     
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  6. NadalAgassi

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    LOL so blunt but so true.
     
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  7. RF-17-GOAT

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    Made me laugh out loud.
     
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  8. Crisstti

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    Precisely.

    It's hard to believe some of these people are actually serious.
     
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  9. TheCanadian

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    I'm sure losing to a nobody just after winning the FO had a devastating effect. I mean, when he physically assaulted Rosol, you could see the wheels come off.

    This is a huge break from tennis for the men's circuit.
     
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    You never know. Three years ago Roddick was having a late career surge, his level of play was high. Then he lost to Lu in wimbledon 2010, and after that loss for some reason he just wasn't the same. Look at where andy is now.

    Still, we haven't seen Nadal play since that match.
     
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  12. cc0509

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    I agree with you Clarky but we never know for sure what goes through Nadal's (or any player for that matter) head and maybe after that Rosol loss he was mentally burnt out in addition to whatever physical problems he was having. We'll never know unless he decides to tell us the full story.
     
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  13. mistik

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    Nadal has injury problems and not the same player since 08.
    I begin to think more and more like CLARKY .I think there is no passion on his tennis and he isnt enjoying that much.
     
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  14. vamospunch

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    According to everything I've read about Hoffa syndrome, there is no treatment for it, and it goes away with rest. If you rest (real rest, not just a couple of weeks), you are fine. That's what RNadal did, took a vacation to recover from Hoffa syndrome. Only way to fix it. He's now been training for a couple of weeks, but obviously you can't regain full fitness for the US Open after such a long vacation. The week of training he had before the US Open was never going to be enough. And that's what Uncle Toni said, he said RNadal hadn't strengthened his quads in time for the US Open. He would be a fool to play the US Open when his muscles were not ready. You can easily tear a muscle if you play at the highest level after such a long break. That is what happened in 2009 when he skipped Wimbledon and then came back too quickly and tore his stomach muscle (strained it a couple of weeks before the US Open and then tore it at the US Open).
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    I think RNadal would be over the moon right now, because it looks like the pain he had at Miami and Wimbledon was Hoffa syndrome, and not tendinitis (and you can understand why they thought it was tendinitis originally, since Hoffa syndrome is extremely rare). RNadal has recently said he is very happy to know that his tendons are fine, and that the treatment he's been having since 2009 has worked. To know that all he's had this year is Hoffa syndrome is a great relief, because Hoffa syndrome is such a minor problem, cured by rest, and otherwise known to be cured by removing a portion of fat from behind the knee. This is actually the first year since 2007 that RNadal hasn't had a flare-up of knee tendinitis. Consider that a warning.....because RNadal will come back with a vengeance at the 2013 Australian Open, you can count on that. That essentially means he's winning the first 2 slams of 2013. Once he does that, just sit back and enjoy history being made.
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  15. BreakPoint

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    Nadal is burnt out. I don't think he enjoys tennis anymore. More of a chore for him these days. And his bad knees certainly don't help.

    I'd bet he's texting Roddick right now and asking for advice on how best to abruptly retire. :shock:
     
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    As one of the guys that counted him out after his time-out in 2009, I will never make the mistake again. He's gonna come back strong, even if it's only for an year or two.
     
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    This is one of many threads that will be bumped in 2013, for the amusement of RNadal fans, while the ill-wishers pray for Hoffa syndrome to return.
     
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  18. vamospunch

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    Good luck finding an event where RNadal threw more fist-pumps than the 2012 Australian Open. The semi vs Federer and final vs Djokovic alone produced more emotion from RNadal than I've ever seen from an entire event. He was more emotionally invested than ever before. I would also point to the Rosol match. Did RNadal look like a player who didn't care if he won or lost Wimbledon? That Rosol match is probably the most angry RNadal has ever looked on court. Not angry at tennis, angry at the prospect of being knocked out of Wimbledon. RNadal has shown more enthusiasm in 2012 than he ever showed in 2011. Actually, I seem to recall a relatively sedate persona in 2010, despite all the winning. 2012 is the most passionate RNadal ever. And Djokovic is the reason why.
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    ^ RNadal after defeating Federer at the 2012 Australian Open semi-finals.
     
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  19. mistik

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    2009 he was still pretty young and so much to prove.He is middle aged at the moment.İn tennis terms he is 2 or 3 years older than the likes of Djokovic and Murray.Fed is 31 years old but a late bloomer,Rafa in tennis terms is 28 years old at least with a fragile body.If he would have turn back to greatness for year or two that would have been more than enough for him.
     
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  20. Tennis_Hands

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    The loss to Rosol hurt him mentally.

    I wouldn't go that far to call it demolition.

    But, yeah, I agree, that his movement was normal at both FO and Wimbledon.
     
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  21. Prisoner of Birth

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    I don't expect him to recapture his 2008/2010 form but I do think he's got a couple of French Opens in him and another non-clay Slam atleast. We'll see it how it goes.
     
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    His movement was fine in FO but not in Wimbledon.He clearly injured. (although not a sudden injury) I doubt Rosol defeat was still in his mind.
     
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  23. vamospunch

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    But something you people forget about the French Open, is that when RNadal is beaten there again, he won't give up. He will put it down to just another 2009. So say he wins the next 2 French Opens, that would give him 9 RG titles. He won't be giving up at 9, that is for sure. And if the streak continues on and on, it would be very hard to retire knowing how much history is available to be made.
     
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  24. Big_Dangerous

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    I would think that considering Nadal is a top 4 player with 11 Grand Slams, he would actually feel more shame in losing to Rosol. I mean in some of those finals against Nole, Nadal really wasn't favored to win, especially not on hard courts.

    And for the record, Johnny Mac when speaking about Roddick's retirement, did say that he remembered when he was 30 that he was playing guy ranked outside the top 100 in the world and he told himself before the match that if he lost he would probably retire.
     
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  25. Prisoner of Birth

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    You talk like winning Grand Slams is a choice. Not even Nadal can keep winning successive French Open titles into his thirties. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though.
     
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    maybe he had grown to accept, like you did, that Novak at his best was/is the superior player to him .....

    he couldn't accept that a nobody mug like rosol could beat him , especially what happened in that final set ......:twisted:
     
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  27. Sentinel

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    Poor kid is done and dusted, he should gracefully retire rather than be remembered as someone who lost repeatedly to low ranked players, and before he accumulates a losing head to head to Djokovic and other players. I guess time violations and MTO abuse will also die out with his retirement.

    Take that NSK !
    Lol ;)
     
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  28. Crisstti

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    Just lol.

    Rafa was n. 1 and had never lost to Novak in a final. Then he loses to him in 7 finals in a row, including two clay tournaments (and in straight sets at that) and 3 slams... people cannot seriously suggest that he's be more "ashamed" of losing to Rosol, especially being injured then.

    I do think, from what he's said, that that loss has made him feel he doesn't want to play in pain if he's not going to be able to defeat players like that.
     
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