Is it that bad to string poly on a dropweight?

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  1. tsongaali

    tsongaali Semi-Pro

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    Several people have told me that stringing poly on a dropweight is such a pain that they do it only electric machines. I haven't tried it yet but don't want to waste any string in case it is that bad and I just give up on the job. Is it really that bad though?
     
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  2. struggle

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    i don't enjoy it on my crank/lockout either, but i don't see why it should be that bad.

    do you have a linear or a drum gripper? seems i've heard complaints about a drum style perhaps with poly, should still work ok i'd think as many electronics also use such.
     
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  3. tsongaali

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    I don't know. I use the gamma x-2.
     
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  4. eelhc

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    Poly is a pain to weave but not really any harder to tension on a drop weight vs other strings IMO. At low tensions one just has to leave enough slack on the string.
     
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  5. gmatheis

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    I have basically the same machine and I string full poly. If anything I think poly is actually easier to tension than a soft multi because it doesn't stretch as much and I often don't have to turn the drum at all, but with multis it stretches more and I have to turn the drum on every pull.
     
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  6. pmata814

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    I strung poly on my klippermate twice before I upgraded machine. I did find it more annoying than synthetic but not impossible. I just had to learn how to start with the tension arm in the down position and then just lift slightly and wrap the string around the cam. Poly doesn't stretch much at all so starting with tension arm on top got very difficult to gauge how much slack to leave on the string. It was easier to start with it down.
     
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  7. loosegroove

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    Poly is a pain to weave, but I am in the same boat as gmatheis. I think poly is easier to tension than multi/syn gut in a dropweight like the Gamma X-2 because it barely stretches. That way I don't have to turn the drum at all and lift the arm all the way up. I think some people initially have problems stringing poly because they are used to lifting the arm all the way vertical, wrapping the string around the gripper, and then dropping the arm to level with stretchy string. If you do that with poly, the arm won't drop to level because poly doesn't stretch much. So instead you wrap the string around the gripper when the arm is in the down position. So I think it's actually less work and faster with a poly.
     
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  8. dono4100

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    I always work with the arm down. Poly is easy enough due to little stretch. Multi/syn....wrap, turn until snug and lift arm. I find it faster, and am able to swing the racquet 360
     
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  9. Irvin

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    nothing wrong with stringing poly on any type of machine.
     
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  10. SwankPeRFection

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    I don't have any issues on mine. About the only thing that sucks is the coil memory on it, but if you take it out one coil at a time and run it between your fingers with a bit of opposite pressure than the coil goes, you can take some of it out. Not much, but it's just enough to make it manageable.
     
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  11. marco forehand

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    NO
    (extra words added to meet TW's standards)
     
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  12. Tennis Fanatic 070

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    I don't even know what they mean, I always string poly on my dropweight, never had any troubles. In fact, I think it's easy.
     
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  13. TennisCJC

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    I have a Stringway drop weight machine that doesn't require the tension arm to stop parallel to the ground. I don't have any problems stringing poly on this machine. I leave a little more slack in the string to the tension gripper because poly doesn't stretch much but other than that it is not an issue.

    There are some that suggest the Stringway drop weight is the best way to string poly as it is true constant pull so the poly comes off at the desired tension.

    Weaving poly cross is a pain in the butt but that's true for any time of machine.
     
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  14. Topspin101

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    Piece of cake with my KM and Stringway cross stringing tool. Very happy with 45 minutes on avg.
     
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  15. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    Weaving poly is a pain, everyone knows that. So, what does an electric machine have to do with anything?

    I don't use an electric so maybe I don't know? Does an electric machine weave for you too? I just don't understand the source of the complaint?
     
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  16. SwankPeRFection

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    The response the OP got probably came from someone talking out their butt. Ya know, the same person who thinks hybriding a poly with a syn gut at 60 lbs is just as comfortable as poly at 40 lbs. :rolleyes:
     
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  17. anubis

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    No. Strung plenty of poly on drop weights. Give it a try!
     
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  18. Murrayfan64

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    String a lot of Racquets with my Gamma 602 drop weight. No problem no works just fine.
     
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  19. Ramon

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    I suspect the complaints about stringing poly come from people who use drop weight machines without a ratchet, like the Klippermate. The ratchet cures a lot of problems because you don't have to re-pull. I use an Alpha Pioneer, and if I have a stiff string, I'll move the weight part of the way before I attach the string to the gripper so it doesn't have as far to move. It's not a problem for me.
     
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  20. Irvin

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    I suspect people tell you not to use a drop weight because they don't have one and you do.
     
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  21. AsianArnold1

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    got my very first Gamma x-2 last month. after watching lots of YULitle youtube vids, i strung my first racket with Volkl Cyclone 18g. took me 2 1/2hrs but did it. by the end crosses, it was pretty twisted. Then i strung my next racket with Gosen Micro17g, and wow, what a difference in ease of softness. I do agree that the syn string took more adjusting with dropwt to get the tention right, while cyclone took only a 1-3 turns.
     
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  22. SwankPeRFection

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    You should be starting with the weight down and the gripper horizontal. Put the string through and move the gripper just enough by hand to lock the string in place. Then ratchet up as needed on the weight arm. If you're starting with the weight up, you're doing too much work for yourself and not using the machine properly.
     
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  23. Say Chi Sin Lo

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    I don't even... argh forget it.
     
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  24. Steve Huff

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    With Stringway machines, it shouldn't be a problem. A lot of people do string poly with the drop weights, but I can see only one real problem. Some of the drop weights with clam type grippers kink the string where it goes down into the jaws. That can weaken the string.
     
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  25. jcollura4

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    Poly tensioning on drop weight is quite tedious
     
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  26. cano

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    No issues. Not enough slack and you have to regrip....but once you get used to the slack length, it's actually quicker than synthetic IMO.
     
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  27. nalvarado

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    I string no less than 40 full poly jobs a week on my progression 200(drum gripper).
     
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  28. v-verb

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    This tip helped me out a ton with my Klippermate - thanks!

    Still takes me 1.5 hrs but it's the damn weaving the crosses and fixing the silly mistakes that takes time. Irvin's top on using a pony bead helped a lot in that regard.

    I'm just not a natural at stringing, however the sticks I string play great
     
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