Is it time to LOL at the Miami Heat?

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  1. JohnnyCracker

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    It's time to laugh at the Lakers for losing to the Bucks by 19 and then to the Heats by similar blowout....both games AT HOME.
     
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    Still favor the Celtics, Lakers, and probably the Mavs and Spurs to beat the Heat in a 7 game series. Also don't sleep on Chicago.
     
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  3. JohnnyCracker

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    Don't sleep on the newly re-vamped Orlando.
     
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    People actually still watch the NBA?

    Call me if Barkley or Jordan un-retire...
     
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    ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!! If Magic, Bird, Kevin McHale, John Stockton, and Karl Malone come back I'll join you.:)
     
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    I can't believe that the league was able to live through Tim Donaghy and his book with basically no damage to the sport.

    "Game massaging" by officials is really out of hand. It is really obvious in both NBA and NFL. I think they used to be better at it.
     
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    I've grown to like the Celtics. I don't know much about basketball, other than from watching, so it is a spectator sport for me. What do people think about the Celtics' chances?
     
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  8. jamesblakefan#1

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    The Celtics are still favorite to make it back to the finals, with Miami, Orlando, and Chicago all on equal footing as dark horses behind Boston.

    In the West LA is still favored but looking vunerable. San Antonio and Dallas both have better records though and could provide stiff competition in the West. As of now I'd say Boston's more likely to make the finals than LA, but I still think both will make it there.
     
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  9. counterpuncher64

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    Dude, LA looks like garbage IMO. I'd say that it should be Boston v Dallas if Dallas doesn't choke in the playoffs (that's a bit if though)
     
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    It's the way Phil's Lakers play. They look exactly like in 2000 and 2002. Coasting, playing with little to none effort. It's ******* me off but after winning 2 championships in a row, it's always hard to find motivation for a regular season games. I think that only team they take serious in RS are the Celtics. That's my prediction for finals anyways.
     
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  11. soyizgood

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    Orlando didn't really get any better from the trades. They traded two veterans allergic to defense for 3 veterans allergic to defense.

    Arenas -> ball hog that shoots blanks (on and off the court)
    Turkoglu -> been garbage the past two seasons
    Richardson -> having a good year but does little else other than chuck

    And they surrendered a 1st round pick. We'll see but I'm not fond of the new makeover.
     
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    Mavs swept the Heat this year. :rolleyes:
     
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    They defeated the league's best two, Boston and San Antonio, back to back, snapping 10+ streaks both times.
     
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    Agent Zero was my favorite player back in the day, then he just got too stupid.

    I like richardson, he works hard.

    Turkoglu has great ballhandling skills for a person of small forward height so im hoping he can find some of that old magic.


    Bass is going to have to step up now that they are skimpy in the Bigs department or at least get some quality back-ups.

    If they meet Miami in the playoffs, I think they will win.

    Arenas should be placed at shooting guard and should be able to light it up the hibachi come playoffs (granted he doesn't do anything stupid) and be able to at least be able to guard d-wade decently, Nelson is solid but short at the point, small forward's advantage definitely goes to James, but with Howard at the rim, I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of his usual drives.

    Magic beat heat.
     
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    Reg season and playoffs are 2 different animals though, one of the reasons why it was too early to "LOL" at the Heat and is still too early to "LOL" at the Lakers or any other team struggling. Boston was awful for the majority of last regular season, but put it together in the playoffs.
     
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    It took some time for the Heat to get some chemistry but their coming along pretty well now. I expect they'll get a little better as they learn what works best for them, it takes awhile.
     
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    This is no surprise but checkout the Clippers and Blake Griffin whenever possible.
     
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    the best thing that would work for them is moving lebron at the point, sort of like magic johnson, then wade at the two, and mike miller at the three.

    but lebron is a dick and wont do that.
     
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    None of that matter. What matter is where they are now and how they play now. Didn't Orlando just beat San Antonio and Boston?
     
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    Much as I'd like to see the Spurs make another deep run, they're playing as well as they can right now. I really don't see any Western team knocking off the Lakers in the playoffs.

    And I'm sure you already know the Celtics are playing without Rondo.

    Charley Rosen says no:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/Should-LeBron-James-play-point-guard-for-Miami-Heat-093010
     
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    I think the trade will bring Turkoglu back to life. The Magic GM is very close with Arenas and can hopefully keep him under control. Not sure about Richardson just yet.
     
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    Hedo played well when he was in ORL. they ran the high pick and roll with great success.

    Arenas I have no idea, but Rahard was done anyway so thats a wash I guess. But with Gil and richardson they are a bit more athletic, They should be interesting to watch as they get used to one another. As the were they had no chance so might as well roll the dice.

    If the MIA plays DAL in the finals DWade will torch them like he torched them a few years back. The heat are not scared of any team despite being swept by them early i the regular season.
     
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    Best player in that deal was/is J-Rich. Dude is money from 3 and at this point in their careers Richardson>>>>Carter. Too bad any of these guys (VC, Lewis, Hedo, Gil and J-Rich) doesn't even know the meaning of word DEFENSE.
     
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    Turkoglu is also the rare guy who actually WANTS the ball in crunch-time. Remember the guy in Orlando's last finals appearance? Money.
     
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    Lebron's intelligence never ceases to amaze me.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5960277

    BUSTED!
     
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  28. soyizgood

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    Griffin is a freak of nature. Gordon is pretty good. Now if they only knew how to stop folks from scoring on them they could be good in a year or two.
     
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  29. Ronaldo

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    So was Lebron
     
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    Griffin is the most athletic big man in the NBA (even more than Dwight). Sad thing is, that the Clippers suck and it won't change any time soon LOL. They better get rid of Baron and his toxic contract. Maybe than they will have a chance to build around Blake (even though i think he's more of a Robin than Batman).
     
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    Griffin also needs to work on his free throws. It's at Dwight Howard-level which is nothing to brag about. This will be his team next year, but the Clippers don't have much for him to work with. Baron Davis was able to sucker another team into a big contract. Davis breaks down more than Arenas and that's saying something.
     
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    Lakers have lost their last 3 games by a combined 50 pts. Yikes! Spurs beat them by 15 even though Duncan only scored 2 pts.
     
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    How many teams have three-peat in the past 40 yrs?
     
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    The Bulls of the 90s (2x), and the Shaq/Kobe Lakers of the 00s.
     
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  35. JohnnyCracker

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    Lakers losing at home by 19 to the Grizzlies. What's wrong with the Lakers? They don't just lose...they get blown out by virtually everybody, even the 14-19 Grizzlies.
     
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    Add in the George Mikan Lakers and the Bostan Celtics 8 peat and that completes the list of teams to ever do it.

    How bout the Heat can we LOL at them?

    Or can we LOL at Kobe for being a terrible teammate? Hes always been a terrible teammate and thats why I have never liked him. How quickly people forget he was whining in LA and demanding a trade before Pau got given to them.
     
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  37. pepka

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    I don't know about being a horrible teammate but Lakers do SUCK now. They better get their s..t together or things may get ugly. I blame some of this on Phil and his i don't give a damn attitude. He has a right to not care about the regular season but being 4-5th seed in unacceptable. Time for the OP to change the thread title an put Lakers instead of Heat ;-)
     
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    What Phil does and has always done is not get too involved. The players will either work it out or they wont. The problem is that Kobe is not a guy most of these guys care about. As to where Jordan and Shaq had an ability to set people straight and get them to follow them.

    Kobe scolws, jacks up terrible shots, and berates him teamates on the floor. Those guys will only take so much of that before they shut it down which it sort of looks like they are doing right now.

    I expect them to get it together then Kobe will get all the credit again.
     
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    Nyah, Nyah, Nyah! (sorry Laker fans, but I don't like your team). Watching Phil Jackson coach the Bulls back in the day I always got the feeling that he didn't tolerate losing and the stuff that leads to it (players' attitudes, etc). They better get their act together.
     
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    Not to say anything but.... the Heat have now lost 4 in a row....
     
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    ^ LolBron shouldn't be talking about karma after all ;-)
     
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    Injurys are a concern for the Heat. I think they take the few losses right now to make sure the Heatles are in perfect shape come the playoffs.
     
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    The Heat have lost 4 in a row since Lefraud made his "karma" comment
     
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    ^ That's what makes it so funny. My guess is that he still won't shut his yapper... He better watch some "My mame is Earl" :)
     
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    3rd best record in the NBA presently. Not too shabby.
     
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    How about the resurgent Knicks?! I'm not ready to put them into the Eastern Conf finals but going into Miami and knocking off the Heat less than a week after bringing in Melo and Billups? John Barry was mentioning the Heat are one of the worst teams in the NBA in games decided by 5 points (big predictor of playoff success) and 1-7 against the top 5 teams in the NBA. Chicago is looking good. Might be the best NBA playoffs in many years.
     
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    Agree fully with this.

    Anyone that likes Miami to win the East, let alone an NBA title is crazy. This team doesn't know how to close, they are awful against good competition, and they only win when LeBron, Wade and Bosh all have great games. If one struggles, they can't beat good teams.

    LeBron is the best in the game when his team is up or down by 20, but in a close game, I wouldn't want him shooting, ever. Last night he made a very predictable drive that ended in a block, and then took a terrible 3 pointer that really wasn't close...It's classic egotistical LeBron, and it's costing Miami wins.

    Derrick Rose for MVP, Chicago/Boston in the ECF, and Miami needs to figure out who the hell is going to run the point next season in order to fix some of these issues.
     
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    Good to see you posting, Big. Wade and Lebron are basically two guys that play the same position and need the ball 99% of the time. You're dead-on about the need for a point, in addition to the need for inside play. Billups is suge a huge pick up for the Knicks come playoff time. At this point, I would certainly take Boston and Chicago over the Heat...I like the combo of D Rose, Noah and Booze in a best of seven against Miami. If the Knicks get the chemisty right, they can beat the Heat in a 7 game series. The Magic seem to be regressing. It's been a long, long time since the NBA East has been this appealing.
     
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    The NBA Playoffs will be up for grabs thats for sure.

    In the East I would not be surpised if Bos, MIA, or CHI were to make the Finals. I dont think the Knicks have enough time to do damage this year, but could see them knocking off someone in round1.

    The west is a crap shoot as well. Spurs, Lakers, Dallas, and OKC close behind.
     
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    Agree with all except Dallas. Their track record of bombing in the playoffs makes me sour on them, though Chandler is playing well and should be an impact player in the playoffs. OKC is SO CLOSE but not sure they can beat the Lakers in a best of 7. I'm actually really interested in NBA ball for the first time in a long time.
     

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