Is McEnroe really CC GOAT?

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Who would be the best on CC?

  1. Roger Federer

    58.5%
  2. Novak Djokovic

    9.8%
  3. Milos Raonic

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  4. Aleksandr Dolgopolov

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  5. Andy Murray

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  6. Robin Soderling

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  7. Tomas Berdych

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  8. Andy Roddick

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  9. Richard Gasquet

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  10. Ralph

    7.3%
  1. Pozarevacka

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    John McEnroe has an 84.18% winning percent on carpet. Is he the best ever. Bring back the carpet! Who would be the best on carpet now?
     
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  2. MichaelNadal

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    I wish we still had carpet too. And more grass :(
     
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  3. tenniswarrior

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    How is it possible to play on a carpet surface? Is that some kind of cheap version of tennis, just lay down a bunch of rugs everywhere?
     
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  4. Pozarevacka

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    Poll just added.
     
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  5. Pozarevacka

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    What you talking bout willis? What do you think grass is? Or even clay? Find a patch of grass, play on it. You cannot be serious!
     
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  6. tenniswarrior

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    Yes but 'carpet'? Seriously? What next, custard?
     
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    In Raonic,we trust.
     
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  8. MethodTennis

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    wow you are a pro troll or just know nothing about tennis.

    i grew up playing on indoor carpet since i was 4-5 years old, love the surface.
     
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  9. tenniswarrior

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    But how can you move quickly on it? You can't slide, it's really rough, bits of the fibre of the ball will stick to it...
     
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  10. MethodTennis

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    you learn to run and change direction well? bad movement = done for. its not that rough, the carpet is pretty short and if the fibers of the ball were sticking to it then it wouldnt be as fast as it is.
     
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  11. tenniswarrior

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    Carpet is a fast surface? Why?

    Wouldn't it be slower due to friction...?

    What tournaments are played on carpet?
     
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  12. MethodTennis

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    its faster than grass, slower than wood (usually converted real tennis courts).

    Nothing is played on carpet anymore, the atp removed it a few years back.
     
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  13. tenniswarrior

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    Why did they remove it? Was there a 'carpet season'? What other surfaces were there...?
     
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  14. MethodTennis

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    No idea, maybe because its hard on the players because of its speed ect. Paris was played on carpet along with a few other events here and there. safin won paris 3 times! On the protour thats all,but you can get wooden courts in england which are Real Tennis (a diffent sport) courts conbverted into tennis courts. You can get blaes http://www.falcon-club.co.uk/FalconImage1.jpg which is like tiny little stones, horrible to play on, bounce can go anywhere. You can actually get third gen tennis courts now too, which is like grass with black rubber in it [​IMG], similar to the old articfical grass which used sand and was less like grass but is still more comman [​IMG]
     
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  15. MagneticCurls

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    Carpet is only one 'C'. Why the 'CC'?
     
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  16. MixieP

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    Next year's ATP 205 event in Srinagar will be played on a Kashmir rug. I know this for sure.
     
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  17. dominikk1985

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    have you ever played a tournament on carpet? I can tell you it's super fast.

    the reason for this it's because it's slick and not that hard. because of that the ball is not deflected up so much on the bounce and most of the energy goes forward. the ball "slips" a little and goes very flat and fast.

    A hardcourt also seems to be slick, but because of the hardness the ball bounces quite high which means more of the energy of the ball goes into the upward bounce making it a little slower.
    that's why hardcourt is slower (and much higher bouncing which helps with passing shots against a net rusher).

    they made the courts slower because the matches (like ivanisevic becker) where extreme acefests with hardly any rallies.

    I would like some carpet tournaments though.
     
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  18. MethodTennis

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    Clay is only one c why the CC


    court ;)
     
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  19. MixieP

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    Clay Court... no?
     
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    Clever!
    You got me!
     
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  21. MethodTennis

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    highlight the white text :p
     
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  22. MixieP

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    Yes, acknowledged. Very clever indeed!
     
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    Ivo Karlovic?
     
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  25. Pozarevacka

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    I was gonna put him in, but then I realized he sucks.
     
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    LOL at Fed tards ranking him higher than Nadal.
     
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    Thanks, that's a lot clearer.

    Does astroturf count as carpet, then? Or is Wimbledon played on that?
     
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    LOL at you for being the only fool to vote Ralph!
     
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  29. Pozarevacka

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    Roger Federer record on carpet 50–19 for a 72.5% winning percentage
    Last final he played on carpet was year end in Shanghai in 2005 losing to Nalbandian in 5 close sets.

    Ralph is 2–6 for a 25% winning percentage.


    That might be the reason?


    p.s. Nole is 10-4
     
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  30. tenniswarrior

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    Who's Ralph? Some random challenger player?
     
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  31. MagneticCurls

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    Yeah but 'clay court' is common vernacular. Never really heard anyone say 'carpet court'.
     
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  32. sureshs

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    Apologize. I thought CC was clay court.

    In any case, Ralph is the overall GOAT.
     
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  33. tenniswarrior

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    Oh, Ralph is Nadal, right? Why do you call him Ralph instead of Rafa? It's shorter.

    In any case, Nadal would have won the WTF if he wasn't tired.
     
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  34. MagneticCurls

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    Case in point.
     
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  35. Pozarevacka

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    I did that so people would read the thread otherwise if carpet were in there, most Ralphtards would pass it over since it does involve clay.
     
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  36. Pozarevacka

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    Ralph is short for Raphael
     
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  37. MethodTennis

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    wimbledon is played on real grass. Im not sure if you would count astro as carpet, i would call it artifical/synthetic grass?
     
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  38. tenniswarrior

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    Do any of his friends call him Ralph?
     
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    I wish they still had carpet events. I miss them. :(

    why is tenniswarrior banned? seemed like a reasonable poster.
     
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    Lmao!! :) Shocked u didn't catch that.
     
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    Its officially known as the Srinagar AK47 Masters (sponsored by the Chinese manufacturers of machine guns).
     
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    lol at retards ranking him lower than nadal
     
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    On the modern slow courts, yeah, Karlovic isn't the greatest. On fast carpet, I could see him rocking and rolling ala Goran. Just a thought.
     
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    Nalbandian and Söderling are really solid on carpet. So is Fed, Ljubicic and Berdych.
     
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    I mean I was thinking about it with his serve. But, the guy has no ground game. I think a lot of players would stick out their racquet to return the serve and Ivo wouldn't be able to do anything with it. Plus, there is no way he'd ever break anyone. The big man has no movement at all. He might be a contender to make a quarterfinal if a GS were on carpet, but nothing more. I just don't see it happening. It would be sweet if they would just have one huge tournament on carpet; that way we can validate our assumptions.
     
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    But his name is Rafael, spelled with an "f" not an "ph" - whether it's English or Spanish...

    I don't like that nick name and it's not even correct...;-)
     
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    Not everyone is able to choose their own nickname. Sometimes it just chooses them.
     
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    wow.. Milos is 2nd in the poll. What's his record on carpet?
     
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