Is Murray a zero slam wonder?

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  1. GuillermoR

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    I think so. And he'll never win one.
     
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  2. D_GOAT

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    me too, he will never win one, he will get close everytime though
     
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  3. VivalaVida

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    I think he will definitely win the US open at some point.
     
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  4. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Murray needs antother dimension to his game (he's likely not to add) if he's ever to defeat Federer in a GS final.
     
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  5. veritech

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    i think he'll win a few. high tennis IQ, strokes are strong and consistent, extremely fit, and a great server (with the exception of his 2nd). i can imagine him improving more, too.
     
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  6. Mansewerz

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    I think he'll have trouble with more than just federer.
     
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  7. batz

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    Yep. We can ignore the six times Murray has beaten Roger - it's like they never happened really. Instead we should focus on the one time Roger has played Murray in a slam and extrapolate all sorts of exotic conclusions from that match.

    That seems a sensible approach.
     
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  8. GuillermoR

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    It'll be a sad day for tennis if Murray ever wins a slam playing defensively, waiting for opponents' UEs.
     
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  9. Agree, 1-2 Us Opens and 1-2 Wimbledons.
     
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  10. Sartorius

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    I just hopped in to my time machine and made a short trip to 2098, and yes Murray is a zero slam wonder.

    If you want to know about Federer and Nadal... Well, that's not for free.
     
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  11. This i can agree with 100%, but if it pays ur bills i wouldnt change it.
     
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  12. mandy01

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    No he is not but his backboarding annoys me especially when he has so many weapons to his credit.
     
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  13. Nadalfan89

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    He's the world's best club player.

    That's what he is.
     
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  14. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    Yes, because in your partisan desperation to pump Murray, you wish to gloss over the OP-relevant issue: the slams--which has to include a consideration of the USO result. It is no secret Federer has a history of turning up his levels of talent at the slams to win (proven at this year's FO & W), so it is more than dishonest to skip over the actual GS event evidence, Federer's gear-changing approach to the slams coupled with the high probability that Murray does not have the goods to defeat Federer in a slam final.

    Until Murray beats him in a slam final, you are avoiding the facts in favor of personal desire. Nice display of fandom, but not realistic.
     
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  15. ubermeyer

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    lol

    He doesn't attack enough, his attacking game is strong but he mainly plays defense, if he had a higher tennis IQ this would not be so
     
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  16. NamRanger

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    Until he starts attacking he's not going to win a slam. He gets way too defensive in the big situations. That's not how you win a slam. You take it from your opponent.
     
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  17. THUNDERVOLLEY

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    THANK YOU!!!

    That's the other "dimension" I hinted at earlier; with his reach and height, there's in no sense in his not using that as an advantage all over the court; approach and cover the net (not suggesting he converts to pure S&V) and force errors out of other's attempts to pass him. Again, he has the reach and height, so he could "take the fight" to opponents instead of recieving/responding his way through matches. Imagine how that could change his game (and throw in the random element at those who expect the same strategy from him).
     
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  18. Fedfan1234

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    He can win one for sure, but with other talents like Del Potro ,Djokovic, Nadal and Federer for a few more years it is not going to be easy. He needs to be more consistent at slams if he wants to win. I am pretty sure other talents will emerge as well in a couple of years (3 to 4 years), if he hasn't won one by then it could become difficult for him to win one. It is a possibility that he will end up with none, but very unlikely for now.
     
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  19. MethodTennis

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    yes, no, mabay... only time will tell
     
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  20. OliverSimon

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    The guy is 22! He has plenty of time to win grandslams. You people are acting like hes 30 years old
     
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  21. NamRanger

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    There was one pure defender who won a slam recently (and that is a stretch). That was Michael Chang.




    Hewitt, contrary to popular belief, actually was a very aggressive player during his peak years.
     
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  22. veroniquem

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    I hope not. I think he has at least 1 USO in him.
     
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  23. OTMPut

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    Now that Nadal is nearly out he may have a chance.

    He needs to stop saying "come on" on opponent's UE.
     
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  24. nhat8121

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    he will win all 4 majors by the end.
     
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  25. janipyt05

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    I'm with you and Namranger on this one i think Murray was kind of lucky to win Del Potro really took it to Murray and in such situations like semis and finals of slam i have seen this defensive type of tennis come out. If he wants to stay number he has to step his game up a lot more.
     
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  26. Rhino

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    I think playing best of 5 is actually very different to playing best of 3. Also playing in finals (especially slam finals) is different too. Didn't Fed beat Murray twice in finals?
     
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  27. ReturnWinner

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    He will have many chances to win one being Roland Garros his worst.The guy could face a hot guy -like He did in AO or Wimbledon this year for instance- and lose but I think he will be a force in slams for many years.
     
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  28. boris becker 1

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    del potro isnt in the same class as murray.

    Murray will win 5 slams or more. fed has 3 years left, nadal is always injured. del potro proved in the 3rd how unfit he is....
     
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  29. batz

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    Good poast OP.
     
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  30. Homeboy Hotel

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    Well done this man! This was posted before 2009 US Open. 3 appearances (R4/R3/SF) later he wins this shindig.
     
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  31. Stinkdyr

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    yep, props to VVV.
     
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  32. PrinceMoron

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    USO junior trophy and he has always said it was his favourite slam.

    FO is hard part.
     
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  33. kishnabe

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    What a good call.....plenty more now!
     
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  34. beast of mallorca

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    It's time to revive all those long lost threads about Murray.
    Bring 'em on!
     
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