Is Nadal done??

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  1. drakulie

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    Seems like a lot of posters are writing off Rafa, including now praying for a recovery to his on-going knee problems, which have been existent for nearly 4 years.

    Couple that with his shockingly early exit at the French, and now he may not even be able to defend his title at Wimbledon,,,,,, I ask is he done???

    Guys with his style of play usually have a 3-4 year run of greatness, but then crash and burn quickly. ie, Courier, Guga, Ferrero, Costa, Moya, etc, etc, All these guys, like Rafa are grinders, and their fall from grace was fairly quick.

    Again, is Rafa done??? Has his destiny, like the aforementioned players been set, or are there remedies to turn the tables?

    Should he retire? Use a lighter/larger racquet to help alleviate the stress on his weakenening knees? Learn to serve and volley??? Cut back on the number of tournaments he plays? Stop playing doubles?? Cut back on his practice sessions??

    Or is it too late, and is he done???

    Thoughts, and lets keep the flame wars to a minimum. :evil:
     
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  2. P_Agony

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    I think people write him off way too soon because of one early loss. That's the ugly side of tennis. Last year when Fed lost the Wimbly final and then lost 1st rounds in HC events, people said Federer is done, he cannot win any more grand slams, etc. Since then he won the US Open, and the French Open.

    Nadal still has plenty of success ahead of him.
     
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  3. Cesc Fabregas

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    Too add longetivity to his career he needs to play a 100% agressive in the early rounds of tournaments basically conserve energy and not get into grinds in the early rounds.
     
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  4. All-rounder

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    Nadal is not done and i really do think he will play wimbledon and make it to the semi's where he will play Murray and it may be US open 2008 all over again. The media is hyping this up for no reason i mean come on he has held press conferences just to say whether or not he is taking part he could just put it on his website tell somebody in a interview
     
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  5. mikeler

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    Nah, if he cuts his schedule back I think he'll be OK.
     
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  6. JRstriker12

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    LOL!!!!!! I'm sure using a 9 oz granny stick will cure what ails Rafa.

    To early to say he's done, but it's not looking to good right now. If he's not stupid, he may have to take a break for the tour and rehab those knees. IMHO, it may take at least a year before we know if he's officially done.
     
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  7. Sentinel

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    I seriously doubt he is done. Maybe have to play less and concentrate on slams, disregard ranking.

    Not sure how much more his serve can improve since he is actually using his non-dominant arm to serve (just a guess).
     
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  8. babbette

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    Even if he skips Wimbledon it doesn't mean the end of his career. Infact Tendonitis heals with rest so if he skips we should be expecting him to come fresher after. Hardcourt season is not his best, he may not win during that period but we should be expecting something like the Rafa we know.
     
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  9. MichaelChang

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    People, he is only 23.
     
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    Stick a fork in him.
     
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  11. MichaelChang

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    Fork does not work because what he needs is to bent on his knees :)
     
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  12. catskillthunder

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    With Rafa's style of play, I think it would be absolutely best for him to cut back on his schedule a bit. What I dont understand is how the fans know Rafa should cut back on his schedule, but his team doesnt.
     
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  13. drakulie

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    I agree. I think he needs to play less, including not playing doubles anymore. Perhaps just playing the clay season will prolong his career. Thoughts?????? Anyone??????
     
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  14. RalphNYC

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    Is there a player to compare to who also had bad tendonitis in his knees?
     
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  15. MichaelChang

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    Focus more on clay and wimby and play less in the rest of the season. But then he has a US Open puzzle to solve...
     
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  16. vtmike

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    Since his game is so physical he needs to concentrate more on the slams and cut down his schedule...and people need to stop making such a big deal out of this injury! I think uncle Phony is being a little bit of a drama queen here...
     
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  17. catskillthunder

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    For tendinitis, hardcourts are the worst to play on. The constant pounding on the knees while stopping and going is crushing to someone that has that problem.
     
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  18. catskillthunder

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    I thought the same thing until Hewitt slapped him around yesterday at the exhibition match. The thing is, what if Uncle Toni isint exaggerating the injury?
     
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  19. batz

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    According to the BBC - Rafa is moving much better in today's match. He's won the 1st set and doesn't seem in any pain.
     
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  20. T. H. Park

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    Not done for sure. But it seems his prime has passed. His prime seemed to be last year and maybe a trickled into early this year - AO SF was a great match. But then slowly things started to go downhill (very slowly). I am sure he's got more tennis in him, but obviously it's not going to be as dominant as before. What goes up must come down. But he went up so much that it'll be a long way until he's "down" ... so, no, not done yet.
     
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  21. Nadal_Freak

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    Nadal is done for Wimbledon this year. But saying his career is done is a little extreme. I guess it is possible since knee problems finished me off though.
     
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  22. Swissv2

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    Maybe he just needs a bigger racquet head size? That strategy does wonders, I hear. It even cures cancer.
     
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  23. TheMusicLover

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    It wouldn't be the first time he did so. Remember the 'Career Threatning Injury'-drama? :-?

    That said, I seriously hope Rafa will be well enough to play Wimbledon - but even more, that he'll FINALLY start making sensible decisions concerning his schedule!
     
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  24. batz

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    Not according to the BBC man who's watching his match v Stan - says Rafa is in no pain and moving great, with lots of sprints and getting to a couple of dropshots.
     
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  25. catskillthunder

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    Yea you're right about Toni, lol, wtf was I thinking for a second? And yes, the schedule has to be revised for next season. I could do a better job scheduling this poor kid then his own family does.
     
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  26. catskillthunder

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    I know a lot of you guys are Nadal lovers/haters, I just find it funny that so many people are speculating on his injury. Is he out for Wimbledon? Is he done? Etc, etc. The only person that really knows is Rafa himself. While we sit here and discuss the same thing 10000x's, Rafa already knows in the back of his mind what he's going to do.
     
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  27. pennc94

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    While he had no where near the level of success Nadal has had, Kent Carlsson's knees ended his career. Not sure whether it was the same type of injury, however. Maybe someone else knows.
     
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  28. Swissv2

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    Ok, I have the very solution.
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  29. catskillthunder

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    LMFAO x 100
     
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  30. batz

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    Neither thanks - just someone who's relaying what the guy watching the match live just said on BBc radio.
     
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  31. NotAtTheNet

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    He's going to play wimbly... not sure if he'll take it though. He has to defend/salvage some points there. I think you'll see him hitting bigger and ending points sooner (at least on the early rounds) and save his grueling/grinding style for later. Of course this whole injury scare might be some kind of ruse to lull everyone into complacency. I can imagine him on the podium going "I get you all good... no?"

    As much as I love Rafa, but if he were done... would the price on the APD's come down...?
     
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  32. catskillthunder

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    Oh no, I wasnt insinuating that you were either of the two. I was just posting a general comment. Btw, thanks for the insight on the match.
     
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  33. rwn

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    Nadal is just playing a chicken act to get the pressure off him. He will play Wimbledon. No doubt about it. :)
     
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  34. catskillthunder

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    Lawls! 3P1C post! I might steal this one for my sig.

    And yea, maybe those APD's will dive in price if such events occurred.
     
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  35. zagor

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    Done my ***.
     
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  36. veroniquem

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    Do I feel a touch of disappointment in your post? :)
     
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  37. zagor

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    Nope,I responded in the similar manner to yesterday's threads with similar titles.Annoys me when people write off players who have proven themselves time and again on the big stage(slams).I would never write off a player of Nadal's caliber,period.
     
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  38. rommil

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    Disappointment? Let's see where will you be in the next week or so......
     
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    After the RG debacle I think I'm immune to any possibility, my heart is already broken :(
     
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  40. bruce38

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    Even if Nadal didn't have knee problems I think his amazing results in 2008 were really due to a decline in Fed's play more than anything else. If Fed gets back to his former self Nadal would continue winning his single FO each year.
     
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  41. veroniquem

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    That is certainly very wise. Fed won RG just as people were starting to write him off. That's a very good lesson to remember: that you can't write off a champion no matter what...
     
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  42. zagor

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    It's just annoys me sometimes that people are so fickle here,one bad loss at the FO in last 5 years and Nadal is supposedly done? Fed has been to the last 3-4 slam finals,yet when he lost to Wawrinka in Monte Carlo and Novak and Murray in IW and Miami people were saying he was done as well and won't break Pete's record even though Fed was still performing at a very high level in slams.

    Sometimes it can turn out to be correct,I mean who thought Mcenroe would never reach a slam final after '85 or never win another slam after '84 but in principle you should never write off a champion,especially one as young as Nadal(he's just 23).
     
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  43. veroniquem

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    Yes one never knows for sure. There would be precedents for arguments either way. I'm claiming that Rafa losing in 4th round in RG was entirely unpredictable but the sport wouldn't be fun if one could always predict what happens.
     
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  44. prince

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    nadal's singles career is done.

    he might be able to salvage some glory if he elects to play doubles where he can slow down a bit - and team up with max the beast mirnyi and maybe win some more slams .
     
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    well, now with Nadal officially withdrawing from Wimbledon,,,,,,,looks like he's done.

    Thoughts????
     
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    Hes done waive bye bye to number 1 ranking.

    Really sad too because hes such a good tennis player and seems like a nice guy. Never good to see someone go down due to injuries.
     
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  47. All-rounder

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    I have a feeling he will do good at US open
     
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    When are you going to give up Drag?

    Seriously you have been wrong for what 5 years, and guess what you are wrong again.

    Tell you what, man up or Sissy out. If Nadal's career continues you never post again, if his career is over I never post again.

    Man up or Sissy out, which is it?
     
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  49. dh003i

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    It's too bad he had to withdraw from Wimbledon, although apparently the lesser of two evils (since if he plays, he aggravates his knee further and won't win).

    However, his knee issues are directly traceable to both his demanding style of play and that he enters so many tournaments. This will always be an issue for him, and will unfortunately only get cumulatively worse, unless he changes either his style of play or reduces he # of tournaments he enters, or does a combination of both.
     
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  50. All-rounder

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    That means sacrificing his ranking for sure
     
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