Is Sampras the only established GOAT of a slam (WIM)?

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  1. RAFA2005RG

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    Leading winners of each slam:

    Australian Open: Agassi 4, Federer 4

    Roland Garros: Nadal 7 (updated in 2012)

    Wimbledon: Sampras 7, Federer 7 (updated in 2012)

    US Open: Connors 5, Sampras 5, Federer 5
     
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  2. gold soundz

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    Nadal will very likely equal 7 wins of a slam, and also likely surpass it.
     
  3. RAFA2005RG

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    Yep very historical opportunity for Nadal, given his youth especially. A shot at 8-10.
     
  4. gold soundz

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    Yeah hopefully. For me I'd say 7-10.
     
  5. Kaz00

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    We can't have 2 GOAT's of a slam? Rafa has FO and Sampras has Wimbledon
     
  6. FedExpress 333

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    Rafa might win another FO.
     
  7. jackson vile

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    Didn't look at it that way. How can you ge GOAT when you aren't GOAT of any slams?
     
  8. RAFA2005RG

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    Exactly. It's very iffy.
     
  9. Tammo

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    Exactly, Neither Nadal or Federer are GOATS.
     
  10. Tennis_Monk

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    Ok. So who is the goat?
     
  11. fps

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    Nadal is not going to win 10 RGs. Get real.

    This GOAT talk is ridiculous.
     
  12. Tammo

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    I don't know yet, I need to do more research.
     
  13. jones101

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    You can't be a GOAT of just one surface, even if it is grass:)

    He could be a GOG though.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Hitman

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    Seems only open era is mentioned. What about the greats who played before then, there are few who would be on top.
     
  15. Tagg

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    well, federer now has 7 wimbledons as well

    i still have sampras above federer at wimbledon though for domination

    7 in 8 years, never lost a final

    nadal has been more dominant at RG than anyone at any slam ever
     
  16. Phoenix1983

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    I wouldn't bet against him doing it.
     
  17. TMF

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    Fed has more finals than Sampras and Nadal.
     
  18. Goosehead

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    Never lost a final :confused: no..because he liked to lose in the QF :twisted:

    Also he never lost a final because he kept losing before he reached the final..or he scuttled off and retired (no wimby apps after age 30).
     
  19. RAFA2005RG

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    Federer lost in the first round of Wimbledon 3 times. And lost in the qf in 2 of the last 3 Wimbledon. Nadal is 52-1 at Roland Garros. Federer is a mess at Wimbledon by comparison. But I thank Federer for winning a 7th Wimbledon to tie Sampras, because now there is no GOAT at Wimbledon. Now Nadal is the only GOAT in history.
     
  20. Tagg

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    no, he never lost a final because he was mentally tough

    something federer generally hasn't been

    nonetheless, federer was beaten by a (then) clay specialist in his backyard

    sampras was never dominated by anyone
     
  21. Tagg

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    nadal is best of all time at roland garros, and on clay, yes

    but overall, no

    firmly behind federer, sampras and borg.

    you can probably make an argument for only just being above lendl despite the 3 slam difference
     
  22. NadalAgassi

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    Nadal is the undisputed GOAT of both clay and Roland Garros, with no remotedly possible argument for anyone else. He is the most clear cut case of anyone for a particular slam or surface, man or women.

    Navratilova is probably the Wimbledon GOAT, but she is not the undisputed grass court GOAT. She averaged only 6 slams at the 2 grass slams vs 6.33 for Court at the 3 she played, 7 for Graf at the 1 she played, 7.5 for Wills at the 2 she played (she never played the Australian). French Open and clay GOAT for women is probably Evert, but some would say Graf and Seles at their best were better clay courters, and faced way tougher competition on clay, in Graf's case even with the Seles stabbing the clay field of her era >>>>>> the clay field of Evert's.

    Obviously for the men the grass and Wimbledon GOAT is debated amongst Sampras, Laver, Tilden (grass only), Gonzales (grass only), and Federer.

    Hard courts is probably Federer for the men, but it is a surface that has only been in high prominence for 35 years anyway. U.S Open GOAT is probably Tilden, but could be Connors, Sampras, or Federer as well.
     
  23. McEnroeisanartist

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    I see one guy's name on there a lot. Must be the GOAT of all slams.
     
  24. helloworld

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    Who?? None of these players appear in all slams as you suggested. Must be a blind ******* blindness symptom. Better check with a good doctor quickly or it will get even worse. ;)
     
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    samras wasnt mentally tough when he was...

    losing to george bastl
    or losing to kraijeik
    or losing to federer lol

    and losing to nadal at wimbledon is better than losing to bastl in the 2nd rd at wimbledon :)
    and federer won as many wimbledons as sampras..but reached loads more finals because federer is superior and mentally tougher than sampuss.
     
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    Fed can be made a case to be GOAT in 3 out of 4 slams.
     
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    What a load of total insanity and complete ignorance of tennis history.

    How in the world can you claim anyone to be the greatest of all time at one of the Slams when its only the players post-1968 who got to spend their entire careers accumulating titles?

    Only the most rabid fanboy would be willing to parade their ignorance in front of the world, twist the truth and ignore so much history just to claim their favorite player was the best at some event.
     
  28. Phoenix1983

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    Even accounting for the pre-/post-Open Era divide and taking into account professional majors, Nadal still has the most clay majors with 7. Borg and Rosewall have 6.

    Nadal is the only man in tennis history (not just Open Era, tennis history) to win a title 8 years in a row - Monte Carlo.

    His record not just at the FO but at all other major clay events for the past 8 years is otherworldly, close to perfect.

    Please tell us who else you have in mind for clay GOAT? :confused:
     
  29. Sabratha

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    Federer is tied with Sampras on grass.
     
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    Rafa at RG, and Djoker could get there with the AO eventually
     
  32. RAFA2005RG

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    Nadal is the only man who can stop Djokovic at the AO maybe, considering the 2012 final. Although Murray also only lost 7-5 in the 5th set, so there is a chance Djokovic will never win the AO again if the gap continues to close, in both cases.
     
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    Lovely video ! A true great

    I used to be a die hard fan of Pete at one point of time.
     

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