Is soda that bad for you?

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  1. KoolAidMan

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    I have a soda (or pop) every once in a while, one every few weeks. Is soda really that bad for you or is it only bad if you drink it all the time instead of water. I drink plenty of water everyday.
     
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    Soda has nothing good in it. It is just artificial flavoring and carbonated water. It'll kill you if you swallow the can.
     
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    If you drink soda everyday it can make you dehydrated.. very dehydrated.. So just drink it in moderation.. also drink plenty of water too ..
     
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    Hey Kool-Aid, why drink soda at all, when there are Mango and Tamarindo flavours
     
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    Amount of sugar in a can of soda is insane. It's waaay more than you'd ever expect.

    -it can make you gain weight in unhealthy weight

    -damages your teeth.

    in general, it's not a good thing to drink.

    If you can cut them out completely, it would be good. But if you drink a can a week, then it's not that bad.
     
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    Sugar highs and lows, caffeine withdrawals, damage to teeth and stomach (acid reflux), unhealthy weight gain, etc. Filtered water is much healthier for you. One can a week is not bad though.
     
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    Jun Ive been drinking soda for all my life I have it in moderration though.. as for the weight gain I don't belive that I've been drinking it an have never ever gain weight from it.I weigh the same since I was 13.. an not gained an ounce from drinking soda ..So there pffft..
     
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  8. PusherMan

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    Are people REALLY taking this thread seriously? Once every few weeks? Anything short of battery acid is fine once every few weeks. Gimme a break! :roll:
     
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    it's better than cigarettes.
     
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  10. James Brown

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    soda is soda. i drink diet pepsi personally, yeah theres caffeine and aspartame, but so what.
     
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    That's a real good post, James. You really know your stuff.
     
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    lol, yeah i know, but some people can get really slowed down or dried up by soda. Just curious about how it truly affects you.
     
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    Personally, soda does not really affect me (I hope) and I have 2-3 cans a day.
     
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    I used to drink a can per day regularly, and did not seem to gain any weight then, now that I do not drink any (just a can of diet soda once a week) I have started losing weight (3kgs in 3 weeks by now). Depends on your metabolism: as I have the tendency to get low on sugar (hipoglycemia) now I get good quality sugar from fruits rather than garbage sugar from sodas.
     
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    A few things that soda can do: contribute to hypoglycemia leading to diabetes (if sweetened with sugar or corn syrup); neutralize your stomach acid - contributing to indigestion/acid reflux; make you toxic if it contains aspartame (migraines being one of the many symptoms); contribute to calcium loss and excretion due to high phosphoric acid content; contribute to a host of caffeine related problems; make you dehydrated from drinking a hypertonic solution and not drinking enough water. Is that enough yet? This would be from daily consumption, and some of these might not rear their ugly heads until a person is older and it is too late.
     
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    Wow, you make it sound like smoking or something, heh heh. Didnt know it was that extreme and able to affect you when youre older.
     
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  17. Kevin T

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    Whoa, Mike, it's not that bad for you. I agree with #5 (dehydration) but that's about it.
    #1-consuming sugar does not cause diabests
    Excess calories and being a fat, lazy slob causes Type 2 diabetes. I could put someone on an oreo cookie and coke diet and as long as I kept the calorie level at their required metabolic level, they would never gain a pound and likely never develop diabetes. Overconsumption of sugar keeps insulin activated, which makes it biochemically impossible to burn fat. The key term is overconsumption. If you eat sugar all day long, there's a good chance you're not an athlete=good chance you don't excercise=good chance you're a fat slob=good chance you'll develop diabetes

    #2-Soda actually contains phophoric acid and carbonic acid (about 2-4ph). Considering stomach acid is 2.0 or lower, and citrus fruits are 2.2-2.4 on the ph scale, I wouldn't worry about soft drinks neutralizing stomach acid. Caffeine stimulates stomach acid, which may lead to GERD or mild acid reflux (heartburn).

    #3-The aspartame argument CANNOT be proven. Yes, it contains phenylalanine, which is toxic to neurons at ridiculously high levels (100's of times what the average person could consume) and yes, at one point in the metabolic chain, aspartame breaks down to formaldehyde (among other things). But that's only one step in the cycle. It immediately breaks down to other substances after that step. A person would have to sit down and eat potato sacks of Equal to ingest these kinds of amounts. There is good info. about headaches, etc. but compared to other food allergies, etc. it's a very, very tiny drop in the bucket when you compare the # of complaints to the # of servings consumed on a daily basis.

    #4-Yes, excess P can pull calcium from the bones but one 12oz soda contains 2% of your daily P requirement. Meat, nuts, etc. contains far more Phos. A major study by the NIH in 2000 showed that dietary phosphorus intake had no significant effect on the development of osteoporosis and other bone diseases.

    #5-I agree. Too much sugar and caffeine will lead to dehydration.

    #6-Everyone live a little. One soda each day won't hurt you. If you drink 4 or 5 or hammer down Big Gulps every day, then you might have a problem.
     
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    Man ... I'm dead!!! I drink 2 - 3 LITERS of Coke a day !!!!

    But I also drink a ton of water (probably a pint an hour) and somewhere around a gallon of skim milk per day (I know it sounds like a stretch but I LOVE milk). Truth is though, I really don't eat a lot ...

    But the lazy slob isn't me ... I'm hyperactive and spend a whole lot of time working out: tennis 5x/week, cycling 1-2 hours daily and weight-lifting 5 days a week ... (Yes, I'm a loser and have no life, thanks!)

    I've tried to cut back on soda but no luck !!!
     
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    James is the most correct, soda is soda is soda is often the drink of the Death Squads, but still soda.

    I, Phil, magiPHIL-- I am a Freelance Writer of Pornographic Greeting Cards. I like bondage sites, and my opinion is always right because I'm joining the ARMY now.
     
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  20. James Brown

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    lolol.

    tis true tho, who gives a crap, just dont overdo it. youre still young, you got time :>
     
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    I just try to avoid soda since there really isn't anything good in it. Anyone try that Super Food drink from Star bucks? Looks scary but Yummy!
     
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  22. Chanchai

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    I would say that for many people that grew up on soda... it's kinda addictive. When I play tennis, I generally try to avoid it, but after two weeks, I end up really craving it (but I wouldn't say it's as bad as coffee or cigarette cravings--though I have no normal habit of either). I wouldn't really call it withdrawel, but the craving sorta grows.

    But hey... if it's good enough to cleanup a car battery, it's gotta be bad enough on your system--especially for your tennis :p

    -Chanchai
     
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  23. PHSTennis

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    I stopped drinking soda for about 2 months now, I seem to have lost fat as well, soda is nothing but junk, you can live without it, Its just sugar and nothing... maybe you will be diabetic some day... I love water, H2O thats that stuff..
     
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    Soda's fine anytime, so long as you don't gain weight by sitting on your couch all day. Last HS tennis season I lived off basically Mountain Dew and Zebra cakes and lost wieght because I played so much tennis. Soda doesn't hurt my game at all. Just my 1.5 cents.
     
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    Very interesting, how about this advice then?

     
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    Half of america;s health problems would be solved by banning this hideous drink.
     
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    Holy crap, that's a lot a liquid. Do you live in the bathroom or something?
     
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    People are drinking more and more soda....and living longer and longer. It becomes difficult to keep trashing these products while longevity keeps improving. The Japanese absolutely love cola (hell, Morimoto even cooks with it!) and are the longest living people on the planet.)
     
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    I stopped drinking soda six months ago and just drink water, sparkling water, coffee, green tea, and tomato juice.

    I don't feel any healthier, but at least I don' have to lug those twelve packs of soda home from the store any more.

    I really miss having a couple of ice cold diet pepsis with lemon after tennis.
     
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    Nice post, KevinT.

    Something else to consider that most males don't think about is the consequence of obesity if you drink too many sodas. Obesity drives down your testosterone levels, which in turn lowers muscle mass, reduces sex drive and sexual function <cough, cough>, raises your chances of getting DIEOFBEETLES :) , and getting heart attacks, and then there's the inevitable bi**h t**s that leave you needing an over the shoulder boulder holder. Just the thought of that is enough to keep me off sugar!

    You see this soda drinking practice in poorer communities especially, and that's very sad. If I could change just one thing in these poor communities, it's their diets.

    -Robert
     
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    Just speculating, but I don't think sweets in general are very popular in Japan. So maybe they really aren't consuming as much sugar as you think even if they drink a lot of soda.

    Plus I doubt that there is much of a corn lobby in Japan leading to high fructose corn syrup being put in all of their foods.

    Plus the Japanese eat lots of fish. I diet high in seafood is often indicative of longevity.
     
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    Soda is generally to be avoided but I always make sure to buy some when I go to 3rd world countries where food/water might be unsafe... When your stomach is truly upset and won't even tolerate water, coke always works as a last resort. Has saved me on more than a few adventures.
     
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    Others have covered many points, so I'll try a newish one...

    It's bad for you in the sense that you get jack .... nutrition in a large quantity of calories. So if you consume the amount you should daily, you will likely have less nutrition. Either that, or you are gaining weight. Neither is good for you, ignoring the other health implications.

    I maintained about 195-205 pounds in highschool, where I played tennis with a 5.0-5.5 who ran my ... off for something like 1-1.5 hours nearly every day, but drank about 2 liters a day or two days. I stopped the extra calorie intake and didn't change much in diet... I'm at 180 right now, and it is a good weight (185 with more muscle might be nicer), but still a little fat left.

    Based on what I studied in college, I have a hunch that soda is quite addictive to a huge portion of the population. Doesn't excuse their intake, but explains it.
     
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    Yes, it's that bad for you. 50% of corn syrup tested contains mercury. Aspartame (NutraSweet) causes brain damage.

    Try to, at least, find sodas that use real sugar.
     
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    I only Drink Diet Coke only and never Water. Not even during the tennis match. I have been doing this for last 30 years. Am i going to die early ? In fact i haven't had a sip of water in over 8 month.
     
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    Really ???// Which famous legitimate scientific paper has proven that Aspartame cause brain damage ??? can you please quote me ? Scientific American ? Journal of Clinical Nutrition ? Journal of Neurology ?:confused::confused:
     
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    so what do you guys think ? am i going to be ok ?
     
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    The deadly effects of artificial sweeteners are something for only an idiot to ignore. People who eat chef boyardee and drink lots of soda look like ****, even if they are stronger, quicker (obviously not because of the diet), they always look like crepe.
    Junk food builds a soft body. Ugly, gross looking, you guys are using low grade semi toxic fuel. I've got NO$ in the tank: organic coconut juice...
     
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    Okay, I rarely feel the need to post here, though I read the forums enough. All this misinformation has got me fired up though.

    First of all, soda might not be the best thing for a hypoglycemic person to drink, but I don't think I've ever heard or read of someone who was slowly transformed into a diabetic by having a couple of cokes a day, have you? If you are drinking gallons of it every day instead of proper meals, then you have a problem, but I doubt that's the case. Bad diet, inactivity, and refusal to acknowledge such lead to Type 2 Diabetes, not someone drinking coke once a day. Second, acid + acid = base? I'm pretty sure when I was in Chem 100 they told me for a a neutralization reaction to occur you need a strong acid and a strong base. That's why you drink pepto bysmal for an upset stomach, it is a strong base and it neutralizes your stomach acid. As for contributing to acid reflux that's generally only if the person is predisposed to it. I know some people who are fine and others who go into fits of pain when they drink an acidic beverage, but coke is no worse than Orange Juice in this respect. Calcium loss is actually caused by caffeine. I won't argue with the fact that it dehydrates you.


    There is actually little evidence that sweeteners and cancer, and I certainly don't think people who consume them "look like crap." The National Cancer Institute itself did a study that found no correlation between ingestion of aspartame and development of cancer in the next 5 years. I know some people who drink exclusively diet coke and water, a family friend has done so for more than 20 years (consuming 3+ diet cokes a day) and he looks healthy as a horse. Now given, this is anecdotal evidence, but so is yours. What you have to understand is that most studies finding something is a carcinogen do so by exposing labrats to massive quantities of whatever it is they are testing, and at that point there isn't much that doesn't cause cancer.

    The bottom line is that soda is not that good for you. On the flipside, there are much worse habits to have, and if you are responsible with your diet you can drink 2 or 3 a day if you want to. I myself rarely drink it, but that's out of taste preference.
     
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    Most studies looking at development of cancer are simply not long enough, certainly not those of only 5 years. Cancer experts will tell you that 10-20 years is probably the time course for develpment of many cancers. Two studies, for example, have shown that getting a sunburn that produced blisters during CHILDHOOD was strongly associated with development of skin cancer decades later, even when subsequent sun exposure seemed to be the same between the experimental and control groups.
     
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    You're absolutely right, and in that light it's mostly impossible to study the long term effects of any of the chemicals we ingest daily. The bottom line is that we just don't know if they will be killing my generation by the time we are in our 50's and 60's, and the best we can really do is guess. My personal philosophy is that if one thing doesn't kill you, another will, so I don't really stress the "Red 40"'s and "Aspartame"'s that have people up in arms so much as an all around healthy diet. But I digest.../pun
     
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  42. martini1

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    If u r over 30 soda should be very low in your drinks list. I *think* even wine in moderation is better than soda. And forget about stuff like mountain dew :)
     
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    I drink a can of soda a few times per week because every once in a while I crave it like you can't imagine--not on its own usually, but with certain meals it just goes so well with that I simply can't resist.

    So ya, it's probably not the best, but hey, if the worst thing in your diet is soda, you probably aren't doing so bad.
     
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    A glass of red wine a day has actually been documented as having various health benefits.
     
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    A glass of wine a day, particularly red wine, is healthy without qualification. A glass of soda a day is unhealthy. Not sure why you even mention age.
     
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    OK then why have i not develped cancer ??? I have been drinking nothing but soda, diet coke and coke for last 25 years. Virtually NO water, maybe 1 sip or 2 sips of water per week, that is all the water i drink. Rest of the time it is All Soda. :???:
     
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    ^^but i will admit however that all this talk about how bad Soda is making me wonder and little bit scared. Maybe i will consider switching to water ???????? but water is so Blend, and boring.... so it is a Tough decision...
     
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    Perhaps because you're illiterate?? I don't think my post suggests you would get cancer, merely that 5 year studies are not sufficient to assess the issue. And even YOU probably realize that something can be carcinogenic but won't cause cancer in EVERYBODY.
     
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    at a tangent, what is worse for you, 500ml of a fizzy drink of 500ml of beer? just wondrin
     
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    I find it hard to believe you haven't ever experienced extreme dehydration then...as in brown urine. My suggestion would be to try and cut back a little bit at at time. It doesn't always have to be plane water, you can get flavorings, drink tea, etc.

    500 mL of Coke is ~205 calories, ~210 in the same amount of Corona Extra. My [uneducated] guess it's 6 of one, half dozen of another. Both are mostly empty carbs, and it's phosphoric acid versus alcohol. I'd personally shoot for the beer, but that's me.
     
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