Is there consensus on poly with best tension maintanace?

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  1. pattenww

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    I did do a search..but came up a bit empty.
     
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  2. anubis

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    In general the newer co-polys are better at tension maintenance. The older, first generation non co-poly strings are worse.

    For instance, I get a huge drop in tension with Luxilon ALU Power rough, much more so than Tourna BHB7. Tourna is a new co-poly, ALU is one of the older breeds.
     
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  3. TennezSport

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    Test results.........

    From the hundreds of string tested here we found that the newer co-polys do a better job at holding tension, but have to be broken in before playability peaks unlike the Lux string which play great immediately. The best string for tension and life were:
    1. Mantis Power or Comfort poly @ approx 24hrs
    2. Kirschbaum Proline X @ approx 18hrs
    3. Solinco Outlast @ approx 17hrs
    Cheers, TennezSport :cool:
     
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    • Interesting stuff, thanks for posting.
     
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  5. pattenww

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    Thanks so much. What do the hours represent?
     
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  6. BLX_Andy

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    Isn't Luxilon a tension maintinence string? I'm not really sure how to measure how strings feel since I'm not a serious tennis player. But I do play a lot during the week.
     
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  7. NLBwell

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    Signum Pro Poly Plasma
     
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  8. Backhanded Compliment

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    Weiscannon Silverstring is very good. Ill check out the mantis though as Im looking for crosses to keep up with my gut mains.
     
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  9. Blitzball

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    Luxilon 4G has excellent tension maintenance. The strings are very durable, and the playability lasts longer than most polys. The TW playtesters even noted this in their review.
     
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  10. ChicagoJack

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    Hi Patternww,

    Check it. The database contains hundreds of string, and is sortable by three starting reference tensions, three swing speeds, and you can also add pre-stretching as a variable as well. Screen grab provide below.

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    Link Here : Tennis Warehouse String Performance Guide

    -Jack
     
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  11. dknotty

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    How do you mean broken in? Do you have to hit for a couple of hours before the strings behave?
    I tried signum poly pro and really didn't like it!
     
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  12. SmilinBob

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    I played 4G for somewhere around 20-25 hours and was pleased with the tension maintenance. I had it in the mains with NXT in the crosses. The crosses were getting chewed up pretty good but the 4G was barely notched and the string bed still felt plenty playable. As the NXT dropped it got a little more powerful but the 4G kept it very well controlled.

    Both were 17g and I'm not much of a string breaker (serve-and-volleyer).
     
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    I really like 4G as well. I find it to be very playable, plush, good tension maintenance, spin and control.
     
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    The gamma RZR RX is the only one with stiffness lower than 200 yet good tension loss. In general the stiffer the string the better the tension maintanene. So its lower stiffness stands out. Has anyone experience with this string?
     
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  15. floide

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    Signum Pro poly Plasma [2]
     
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  16. dknotty

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    I hated that string! Felt like no spin at all.

    It's OT but no string I've tried has come close to Alu power.
     
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  17. floide

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    I hate it too (and there's still 70 m left of it for me to use :( ), but the tension maintenance is very very steady.
     
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  18. Ramon

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    I strung up SPPP Hextreme for a friend on a poly/multi hybrid. He liked the way it played, but he ended up with a serious case of TE which put him out for 2 months. That makes me suspicious of this string. Holding steady tension isn't that great if it's going to hurt your arm. Has anyone else noticed this?
     
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  19. WhiteStripes

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    I've been playing with 4G as my cross in a gut/poly hybrid for a while now, and definitely agree that it's very good in terms of tension maintenance for a poly. While I prefer a few other poly's as a cross when fresh in terms of playability, I've been using 4G as my main cross now just for the tension maintenance.
     
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  20. NLBwell

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    I have found the Signum Pro Poly Plasma (haven't tried Hextreme) very comfortable on the arm. Haven't found a poly more comfortable. It holds tension extremely well - the best I've tried.
    However, as dknotty said, it isn't great for spin. Lux Alu is a completely different animal for spin. SPPP is a good everyday string, but it isn't a high-performance string.
    I keep one racket strung with SPPPP for practice, and one with Lux Alu for matches.
     
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  21. jaydog23

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    Signum Pro Poly Plasma's whooole deal is its tension maintenance. Luxilon advertises power on their packaging; the tour bite advertises spin. Literally, the only thing advertised on the SPPP packaging is how well it retains tension. In playing with it (only in hybrid, never full) I did find that it seemed to keep tension pretty well. If you put it in a full bed, though, I think that would be rough on the arm, so do you really need such great tension maintenance if the other string in your hybrid is going to give out first anyway? You decide.
     
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  22. dknotty

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    Ouch, that's 6 restrings :(

    Good luck!
     
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  23. floide

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    I've been using SPPP for 2 months, and can easy answer your question:

    NO.
     
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  24. floide

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    Thanks, dude. I'll need it. Awful string for me. :mad:
     
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  25. Ramon

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    The setup I strung for my friend was a poly/multi hybrid, and I'm positive that the cross held tension better and the source of pain was the poly mains. Maybe it was too tight. He wanted it to be tight and asked for 60 but I cautioned him not to do that so I strung it at 50/54 on a drop weight machine. Any recommendations on tension for a Babolat APD?
     
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  26. DirtBaller4

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    I like the volkl cyclone 17 and MSV focus Hex 17
     
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  27. ChicagoJack

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    Out of 256 poly strings tested for tension maintenance, (mid tension, fast swing speed) Signum SPP 16L ranks #58. the 17L ranks at #68. That's not bad, it's just that there are 50-60 other poly strings that perform better in this particular aspect, and if that's your top concern, there are better choices.

    -Jack
     
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  28. icarus180

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    Yonex Poly Tour Pro 125 yellow. Seems to last a solid 20+ hours of drilling before it starts to lose snap back, and even then it's quite playable. Really good all around string. First poly I've hit with that doesn't appear to lead to any tendon issues. Probably have put in 100 hours total using this string (over 5 string jobs) in a rather stiff racket and zero issues with TE. Will buy a real if TW starts selling the yellow. I don't like the black 125 nearly as much.
     
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  29. Shangri La

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    WC strings like Silverstring are generally regarded among the best in poly tension maintenance.
     
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  30. jaydog23

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    If you already knocked 10 pounds off of what he wanted, then taking much more, you might distort his gameplay before he reaches a comfortable tension. What was the cross? You said that held tension very well. I know it's know common, but could that have compounded the arm pain. Maybe try 48/51 with a really soft cross, and if that hurts... time to choose a new poly.
     
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  31. Ramon

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    This guy really didn't know what he wanted and left it to me to guide him. He had a hybrid of Sonic Pro and an unknown cross that was too loose and he had it too long. His concept of tension came from experience with gut. I actually strung 2 racquets for him with the same mains. One cross was RIP Control and the other was Premier Attack, and I know that both strings maintain tension well and are arm friendly. After he tried them, he thought the tension was just right. The TE was his only gripe.

    I might actually try a hybrid for myself, but I'll monitor how my arm is doing very closely. I'm thinking a mono syngut cross like OGSM or Gamma Syngut, might work better with a stiff poly.
     
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  32. NLBwell

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    I certainly haven't tried all 256 polys, but the test results (in all categories) are very good for identifying the strings in the ballpark you want. They aren't real-life conditions and even if a test might translate well to what actually happens in the racket, the feel and action of the ball may be different than the numbers would show.
    User feedback and the TW stats are both valuable.
     
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  33. dknotty

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    Maybe it's just that SPPP just feels like it lasts forever ;)

    If you know what I'm saying!
     
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  34. Ross K

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    Apart from that impressive tension/life what else do ppl think about Mantis Power? Seeing as how I've had nearly a reel of the stuff lying around for a few years gathering dust, wondering if I shouldn't be stringing it up. :wink:
     
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  35. drgchen

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    Stiff polyester strings FEEL like they maintain tension better than less stiff polyester strings.

    This is true for a string like SPPP. I strung it for a guy who has been using it for a few months playing several times a day. The tension is lost, but the string is stiff enough to feel like it is still playable.
     
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