ISOSPEED Baseline Control String 16

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  1. Sintherius

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    Every single review on it has said it's a very quality string so I bought a reel for $39.99 (which is VERY cheap for a full reel of poly, especially one that has such good reviews.) Here's one of the comments, and this guy did exactly as I did, bought it because of reviews and price. I get mine Thursday.

    Comments: I purchased this string due to the reviews, and I have to admit that I'm feeling it already. I absolutely love this string. It's soft for a poly, which is good for my arm but I get tremendous control, and spin is also very easy to generate with this string. For the price, do not hesitate to buy it!
    From: Thomas, Hopkinsville, KY, USA, 02/11

    Anybody used this string and if so what are your thoughts on it?
     
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  2. Carolina Racquet

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    Baseline is a very soft poly. I string it higher than all other polys with no arm discomfort at all. It has very elastic characteristics.

    The downside is that it loses tension faster than other polys and I feel I get a little less spin.

    I am currently rotating this string in with Cyclone and BHBR. I keep upping the tension every time I put in a new set in my OS frame. Now up to 64-65 lbs when i string other polys at around 59-60.
     
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  3. loosegroove

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    I play with the 17L in a hybrid and really like it. Pretty soft and comfortable for a cheap poly, but make sure to cut it out and restring fairly regularly or then it will feel a but harsh. You can string it a little higher than other poly's, but I'm enjoying mine strung at 48 on my Ti Radical OS (57-67 is the "recommended" range). I find it plays better, gives more pop, and lasts longer at lower tension. The nice thing is it's dirt cheap so you can experiment with various tensions.
     
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  4. Carolina Racquet

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    What do you hybrid it with?
     
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  5. Sintherius

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    Sweet so it actually is a very good deal then I take it?

    And also any idea how it plays in a full bed?
     
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  6. hescobal

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    I think i'll have to give this string a try after my stock of strings is gone. I've been using cheaper and cheaper poly strings. I've found that once I find the right tension, I can play with it and performance is negligible

    Although gosen makes cheaper polys, I think this sounds good for me since I like softer polys
     
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  7. Sintherius

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    There's even CHEAPER polys? Dang... what poly are you using currently?
     
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    http://blog.tenniswarehouse.com/?p=1154

    http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=319527&highlight=Low+String+Tensions
     
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  10. Carolina Racquet

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    I'm familiar with the low, low tension with poly blog. If you check the thread you'll see a number of posts from me.

    I tried a few polys this winter using low tension and I found it worked much better in cooler temperatures.

    I'm just commenting on what feels good with this string with an open pattern OS frame. As stated before, this is one poly that IMO you can string at a higher tension with no arm discomfort.
     
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  11. Sintherius

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    How is its spin capabilities?
     
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  12. loosegroove

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    I hybrid it with Gosen OG Micro 16. It's a pretty stiff/crisp synthetic gut so it matches nicely for lower tension with the Isospeed. Plus it's super cheap as well so my hybrids cost less than $2.50 a set!
     
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  13. *breaksracquet

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    I hybrid isospeed baseline control with OG MICRO 17. Nice, very inexpensive setup. I get lots of pop with this setup. And plenty enough control during a rally. Feel and touch isnt the greatest tho.
     
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  14. weksa

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    BTW Sintherius, I hope you update this thread with your review of the string once you get to play it. :)
     
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  15. Sintherius

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    Trust me I will :D it comes in tomorrow and I'm definitely excited!

    Also, anybody know a good cross string to go with this?
    I know some of you have said OG Micro but how does it feel in the spin/feel department, etc?
     
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  16. Carolina Racquet

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    I think it's 'normal' for a poly. It does have more power compared to other polys, so you have to factor that in.
     
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  17. Sintherius

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    I just strung it up in my Prestige Mid and will string it in my Wilson tomorrow to hit with. So excited! :D
     
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    Someone spoke of durability with the hybrid setup and I must agree that it doesnt last very long. Possibly 10 hours, if that. I know I was able to play about 8 sets before my string went completely dead.
     
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    Finally got to play with it strung in my Prestiges, and WOW was I impressed.

    It plays better than that new Alien string. This string has so much control I was hitting out with NO problem and getting it just inside the baseline. My backhands were so much better too. This string is simply amazing, especially for the price. $39.99 for a reel? Yes please.
     
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  20. weksa

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    ^^ And what was your setup? Full bed? Hybrid? What tensions? Also, update on when the strings go dead with respect to how hard you hit and whether flat or with medium topspin, lots of topspin, etc.
     
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  21. Bud

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    I use Baseline spin. Great string, comfortable and cheap :)

    It's soft (as far as poly goes) and lasts quite a long time. I re-string it every 12-15 hours.

    Agree. I string it at 55-60 lbs. on a dropweight machine and have no arm issues. It's by far my favorite poly.
     
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  22. Carolina Racquet

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    Update... I found this string to be a perfect complement to my TT Warrior frame. I had problems finding the right tension with my 'standby' strings, Cyclone and BHBR.

    I'm stringing it at 64# with no discomfort, plenty of pop and reasonable spin. It is much more elastic than any other poly I've tried.

    I truly believe if this string was sold in packets, it would be by far, much more popular. Who wants to demo a string by purchasing an entire reel?
     
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  23. Sintherius

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    Full bed in #60s. I will, and I usually mix it up whether I want to hit it deep and flat, with some topspin, or lots of it lol.

    Only problem is it strung at a lower tension than what I wanted it at, but I'm having absolutely no problem so it's not that big a deal to me :D
     
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  24. weksa

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    Thanks. Tension in the 60s, huh? It must be pretty soft and elastic as the others say.

    I use the 17L version and hybrid it. I've been messing around a lot with my reel of Baseline Control 17L and Gosen OG Micro 17, ranging from as low as 40 lbs up to the high 50s.

    I'm currently using my backup racquet LM Radical MP with Baseline/OGMicro at 40/44 lbs, which feels way too mushy but very comfortable for the arm. There's really no slacking off when playing with low tensions because I need to use a fast swing to keep the ball in with topspin; otherwise, swinging lazily results in floaters going long.

    As for when the strings go dead, on average I restring around 10-15 hours (these numbers are when using tensions in low 50s in a Youtek Prestige Pro). Once, I played some hard hitters a few days in a row and the strings were dead within 6 hours. I hit with medium topspin, not too much.
     
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  25. Jopspin

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    I'm resurrecting this thread because I was searching to see if there are other people in love with this string and I wanted to weigh in as well. I also feel like the Isospeed Baseline Control string is the softest poly I have ever used and it drops tension really quick yet maintains pretty good playability and comfort. It's not like other more expensive brands will last much longer but for the price (around $2.50 per string job), who cares?? I own a stringer and to have a fresh string job for that value is a great deal. I keep testing other high end strings every now and then (BHB7, Cyclone Tour, Ripspin) but they don't really offer much more control or noticeably more spin. Or maybe I'm just too accustomed to this string right now.
    I string it at 54 lbs on my very open Prince 100T ESP rackets and it complements the racket nicely in terms of providing spin and control. My racket is very arm friendly and with this string I could swing for hours with no discomfort even when tension is somewhat lost. Never could imagine that a full bed of poly could work out so well.
    Plus now that I break poly with this string (and partly due to my open string pattern), it also gives me something to brag about!
     
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  26. Kenny022593

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    For whoever clicks this thread and is interested in this string there has been a lot of reviews and feedback on it over the years on the forum. Myself and a former (?) member, Jonny S & V, have and do use this as our main strings. We have both written multiple reviews about this throughout our post history.

    In brief, I use Baseline Spin 1.20mm and have tested the 1.25mm version as well. The 1.20 and 1.25 versions have 4 distinct stages and they go by very quickly.

    Stage 1:The first 2-3 hours the strings offer a great amount of spin and power. Compared to Luxilon ALU Rough it is more powerful and offers the same amount of spin. It is also very comfortable throughout this stage and offers a very good amount of touch and feel when compared to other polyesters.

    Stage 2: The next stage comes at the 3-6 hour mark. There is a noticeable drop in power. The spin is still there, but it tapers off at a very noticeable rate as well. The string does not pop like the previous stage. The string is still comfortable at this point and is still playable.

    Stage 3: Death. At the 6 hour mark the string takes its final drop off in play-ability. It loses its pop and the power that originally drew me to the string. It also gets pretty harsh on your arm at this point. I cut it out before I get to this stage normally.

    Stage 4: The life of the string picks back up right before it breaks. The pop will come back into the string as well as the power, but it breaks about 30 minutes after this takes place. Getting to this point also means you're fighting through the death period.

    All in all, it's a very good string for the price point. Soft, powerful, and offers a very good amount of spin. If you don't break it in under 6 hours, though, you should cut it out because when it is dead it isn't pleasant to hit with.
     
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  27. speedtrap

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    Hi! I have almost the same comment.

    I really liked this string (I tried a reel of Baseline Spin 17L), for $40, it is good for about 17 stringing jobs on a full set.

    First few hours of hitting, the power and control really suits me. I like to hit in full swing - hitting hard and flat. Playing doubles, the nice power and control that I liked only lasted me about a week of playing. But in singles or just rallying with a hitting partner in about 4 sets, I already felt that the pop is getting less, and the control is gone, somehow it's getting difficult for me not to hit the net. Continuing to use it, I can already feel pain in my right arm when serving and hitting flat drives.

    Right now I'm thinking of getting the Baseline Speed 16L, since it is a little thicker than the 17L, maybe it could last more? :)
     
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  28. Kenny022593

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    Just stick with the 17L version. The 16L will die just as quickly and if you're not breaking the 17L version there is no point into going to a thicker, less playable gauge.
     
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    Interesting... Maybe my flexible racket dampens the harshness but I have never felt that there's a stage where you can say that the string is "very" harsh on your arm. I do however agree with your timeline and that makes me interested in reading the threads you mentioned about this string. Can you post a link?

    I hag once gotten lazy about restringing and had a racket that was not strung for three weeks in my bag. I broke my other strings and used the three-week old strings. Surprisingly, they had really good pop in their last hour before they broke. I guess that was the "resurrection" phase that you talk about at the end of the life cycle before the strings break.
     
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  30. Kenny022593

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    The links are probably around 2 years old and somewhere in my post history if you care to look. I may have overstated the harshness a little bit. I think fresh luxilon rough is harsh and dead, but with the ISOspeed you can definitely tell that there is less pop and the soft feel is gone.
     
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  31. eelhc

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    For the non-string-breakers looking for comfort and spin Isospeed Baseline Spin is a great as a cross. Rip control or Hexy Fiber Mains with Baseline Spin Crosses will good for ~20Hrs. For me there isn't a better set up for under $5.
     
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  32. Kenny022593

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    Hexy Fiber mains with ISOspeed Baseline Spin crosses lasted me about an hour and 20 minutes of D3 college level hitting and I am not a string breaker. It normally takes me 15-20 hours to break syn gut.
     
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    Yup, I have tried Rip Control / Sonic Pro (same string as Isodpeed) and liked it. Rip mains needs to be strung a lot tighter then poly crosses.
     
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  34. BlueB

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    Double post...
     
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  35. Kenny022593

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    Sonic Pro isn't the same. It is lower powered and a little bit stiffer.
     
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  36. BlueB

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    I am pretty sure that Sonic Pro is made by Isospeed.
     
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  37. Kenny022593

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    I'm not debating you there. I am just saying that they are different when you hit both side by side.
     
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    I'll try in September when back in Vancouver. I still have one pack of Sonic left and a new roll of Isospeed.
     
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