ITA sigles ranking

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  1. SoCal10s

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    anyone here knows how the ITA rankings work ? last week Henrique Cunha was dropped a few spots and he didn't lose any matches .. he even beat #2 Jenkins 6-4.6-0.. :confused:
     
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  2. bluetrain4

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    Rankings are objective computer rankings after the initial rankings are released. Points are assigned for the quality of wins and losses - for example 80 points for beating a player 1-5, as opposed to 55 points for beating a player 26-30. There is some fine print, such that only a certain number of wins can be counted for specific ranking periods. Losses are also assigned a value. It seems that the detriment of losses is less than the benefit of wins.

    So, a couple of things:

    (1) The score doesn't matter. It is in no way factored into the rankings.

    (2) The rankings are, obviously, adding up the "value" of a player's wins and losses over the season and averaging them out. So, as the season wears on, direct results won't always matter in terms of bumping one player ahead of others.

    Cunha beat Jenkins. But, Jenkins has built up enough valuable wins and avoided enough detrimental losses that it doesn't take Cunha above Jenkins. In regards to Cunha not losing, yet dropping in the rankings, its simply that some players below him obviously did something to get their averages higher than Cunha's. Had nothing to do with Cunha at all. If it were a poll ranking (like the AP basketball poll), then Cunha probably would not have dropped or even moved up.

    I can't explain it all. As I said, there's a lot of fine print. Here's the info:

    http://www.itatennis.com/Assets/12-13+DI+Rankings+Manual.pdf
     
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  3. raging

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    Thanks Blue!

    (always wanted to write that)

    Rules seem pretty complex but basically understand how you get a top 125 ranking in singles, just need wins against higher ranked players, less losses.
    consistency is rewarded.
     
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    Whoops, I meant to say that rankings are "objective" not "subjective" computer rankings once the initial rankings are released. I edited my previous post.
     
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    Cunha also could lose points by having previous wins get devalued as previous opponents lose ground in the rankings. Wins and losses are re-evaluated weekly.
     
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  6. bluetrain4

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    I always wondered about that - whether there was what I call "continual reindexing" of wins and losses.

    Let's say you beat someone ranked 35, who then loses a bunch of matches and his ranking plummets to 90 - do you get credit for beating the 35th ranked player or the 90th once his ranking drops? You answered my question.

    Obviously, in strict terms, you can't say that the player didn't beat the 35th "ranked" player at the time of the win, but after the rankings drop, I guess the argument is that the 35th "ranked" player was not the 35th "best" player and therefore the win should be reevaluated.
     
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  7. raging

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    which just shows how little they are worth.

    the players need to concentrate on getting the win for the team & the ranking will take care of itself.
     
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  8. Vicious Vik

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    UCLA thought so. But they still get passed by a team with 3 more losses.
     
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  9. floridatennisdude

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    The players lose out in these individual rankings when matches get halted upon the 4th team point. A lot of DNFs between quality players. It's a shame.
     
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