I've just bought this. Anyone wanna fill me in?

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  1. Rorsach

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    For 20 bucks from the local equivalent of craigslist. Can anyone give me some specs and history?

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  2. hoodjem

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    Holy cow!

    Look at that string-spacing (12 X 13)--gobs of spin.
     
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  3. Bud

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    You got a great deal. It's a Snauwaert Hi-Ten.
     
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  4. SpEeDyZ

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    OMG the string pattern is just ...
     
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  5. AznRamenDude

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    You can nearly string the twice with one set of string...

    I dont know anything about it but i would love to hit with that :D
     
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  6. Loco4Tennis

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    yup, i believe you are about to spin the hell out of the ball with this thing
    string breaking might be an issue, but oh well
    by the way, whats the length of the racquet, seems alittle short, is it just me? is the racquet at least 27"?
     
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  7. Bubba

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    take a yonex and skip every other main and cross... should end up with something similar :):twisted::)
     
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  8. Loco4Tennis

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    yeah, i agree, but unlike this one racquet, unless i heard wrong, the yonnex would not be legal for competition play
    there was a picture of a player posted here where the guy was using a racquet with about the same string pattern, not a very well known player, is all i remember, but what they said was that the player had his racquet manufactured like that to create monster spin
     
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  9. Kirko

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    Mark Woodforde used this racket. great find !!!!! this is one frame I would have loved to have tried. if you want to "dump it" let me know.
     
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  10. VGP

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    I'm sure that "not a very well known player" was Mark Woodforde.

    You'd have to do like him and use a really thick gauge string.

    I'm pretty sure it would be legal. The strings are overlapping, in a single plane, and don't have anything attached.....
     
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  11. Loco4Tennis

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    ok, ok, i'll take it back
    Mark Woodforde is not well known to ME!!, im bad with names anyway,

    as per the ruling, someone can clarify for us,
    could a yonnex with skipped grommet holes to achive the string pattern of the racquet here be legal for compettion play?
    i beleive the picture i was speaking off came about when they asked if the pattern was legal, someone also mentioned about skipping grommet holes, and thats when they mentioned something about the rule and how it cannot skip holes, finally someone showed a manufactured racquet such as the one here, thus making this one legal but not the one where you skipped holes
     
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  13. Cup8489

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    imagine nadal with a apd with 12x13 string pattern. federer would have daily nightmares and night terrors..

    but me...that would just...omg i think i just died. 12x13! ZOMG!
     
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  14. JW10S

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    The racquet pictured is legal--skipping holes in another racquet to achieve a similar pattern is not.
     
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  15. Rorsach

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    I'll measure it when it arrives on wednesday.

    Anyone have any idea at what tension this puppy needs to be strung?
     
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  16. netman

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    Its the Snauweart Hi Ten 30. Made to be strung at very high tensions (80-90 pounds). There were 3 versions. Originally shipped with a special string optimized for the higher tension. 17mm straight beam, weighs 358 grams (12.6 oz). This is my Hi Ten 30:

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    I strung it with a 15 gauge at 85 pounds. The spin you can generate is ridiculous. Great frame for doubles. Insane angles are easy to hit.

    I bought mine for $3 at a thrift store.

    -k-
     
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  17. nickb

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    Why do you have to string so tight...because of the big gaps in the string pattern?...85 is very very high...:shock:
     
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    It was specifically designed to be strung at high tension. Hence the name "Hi Ten".

    -k-
     
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  19. JW10S

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    It has to be strung tighter because of the open weave--otherwise it would feel like a fish net. I remember hitting with one of Woodforde's racquets years ago. I don't recall what he said the tension was but I know it was very high. It had a very thick string and had a very unique feel. Woodforde used this pattern in Wilson, Yonex, Snauweart racquets as well as at least one other brand I can't recall at the moment. This pattern never caught on however--I don't think I've seen another competitive player use it.
     
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  20. Loco4Tennis

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    stringing high would provably not be an issue with this racquet, since you'll provably use a 15g string, 70s is a number that comes to mind, easy enough for a 15g string
     
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  21. 2nd_Serve

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    Wow....Crazy string pattern....
     
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  22. Bud

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    Let us know how it plays!
     
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  23. Bud

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    What were the 3 different versions and how did they differ (I only know of the Hi-Ten 30 and 50).
     
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  24. Rorsach

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    Hi-ten 25, midsize oval head:
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    Hi-ten 30, midsize isometric head:
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    Hi-ten 50, oversize oval head:
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  25. Rorsach

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    Heh, also found the Hi-ten 50 for a couple of bucks.

    Now to hunt for the Hi-ten 25 and the collection is complete ;)
     
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  26. Pleepers

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    That probably has amazing ball feel? Let us know...
     
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  27. gcfalcon09

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    wow ancient!!! but totally ballin haha
     
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  28. hrstrat57

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    nice snag

    sweet.....need a playtest report
     
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  29. 1hand4ever

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    OMG i want one :):shock:
     
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  30. ichibanosaru

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    Hey Rorsach,

    Can you please fill us in on where you got those sticks? :?

    Thanks again and take care-
     
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  31. adams_1

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    Wow. That would be a fun one to have in the bag :D
     
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  32. Rorsach

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    I found them both on 2nd-hand sites. One in The Netherlands, the other just across the border, in Belgium.
    It seems as though there are no racquet collectors in these woods, it's amazing what you can find. I've also found some real good deals on the electronic bay in Germany.

    Two weeks ago a found a listing from someone who gave away 2 Puma Boris Becker Winners and all he wanted was to be reimbursed for the shipping. :D
     
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  33. DarthCow

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    Give it some Blue gear at about 90 lbs, and you will be fine.
    :shock::shock::shock:
     
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  34. Rorsach

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    I've just restrung the racquet and compared it with a couple of others.

    Comparison between the Snauwaert Hi-Ten 30 (at 95 lbs) and the Head Graphite Radial (at 32 lbs), Below that i've added the Prince Comp 90 (at 55 lbs)

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  35. PROTENNIS63

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    that is a classic. You got an unbeleivable price
     
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  36. sureshs

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    He used a 12 gauge string and a 12*14 pattern
     
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  37. nCode747

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    whats the head size?
     
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  38. baseline08thrasher

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    how do you get spin if it's that open????
    I guess somehow you do?
    Because if not alot of string is hitting the ball then you can't spin it.
    Okay i must be crazy, but I don't get it.
     
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  39. babolatchaznike

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    Sweet! Great vintage racquet!
     
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  40. AndrewD

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    The ball feel is...different, very different - you could call it 'amazing' but not in a good way LOL. The Hi-Ten50 was my brother's old racquet (used them from about 1988 to 2005) and, due to the unusual string pattern and the exceptionally thick string used in it, he's struggled to feel comfortable with any racquet since (Dunlop Max 200G users might understand). It was stiff as a board and likely to kill a sensitive arm but, as others have said, the spin potential was unrivalled by any other legal frame. Power was okay but the control was fantastic. Only other racquet that I've found able to match the Hi-Ten50 for its combination of spin, control and power is the POGOS (the Prince has more pop, the Snauwert has more spin and control but the POGOS has more bite on slice shots).
     
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  41. dragnoth

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    LOL...With that string pattern....if you try hard, you cant hit the ball at
    4000 rpm< ? haha
     
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  42. dragnoth

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    oops sorry...totally inverted my message, i meant,

    LOL...With that string pattern....if you try hard, you can hit the ball at
    4000 rpm< ? haha
     
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  43. plasma

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    will someone please sell me one of these gizmos? I'm a pusher who could use some extra top. danielrauch72@yahoo.com
     
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  44. thomas martinez

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    Yo uactually need thicker then 15 for these. The nearest equivilent you can get is weed whacker cord and works just as well, if not better in terms of play then the original 13g poly Snauwaert had for these things
     
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  45. plasma

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    head size is smaller than r22, like the dyno 80-85ish, gooooo snawaert!
    did boz play a part in the hi-ten?
     
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