James Blake has THREE racquets left!

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  1. OrangeOne

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    ...so why do you need 10? ;)

    Read this in another thread. Amazing. Figured it's worth a thread of it's own.

    http://www.bnpparibasopen.org/News/...pts/Extra-Column/James-Blake-First-Round.aspx

     
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  2. vsbabolat

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    I think it is that Blake has THREE racquets he likes.:)
     
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  3. Nextman916

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    That's so awesome, but hopefully he can get a company to clone some more for him.
     
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    Part of the problem for him is that he is getting so used to "broken in" frames, that it will be nearly impossible for any manufacturer to replicate that feel.
     
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    wow...great interview!
     
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    I think its all in his head. But still cool nonetheless that he's down to 3 of them. I hope he finds what he's looking for.
     
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  7. leonidas1982

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    he should try the kps88. feels solid, yet it has spin and power.
     
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    na, the KPS88 is a different beast from his rackets. different mold, string pattern, flex etc. i think he should try a redondo.
     
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  9. decades

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    send him a link to TW! Aerogel 300 tour James.
     
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  10. downs_chris

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    hahahaha...that made me laugh....
     
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    I think he might be getting over paranoid about this. Perhaps he is just over-analysing every aspect of the new frames and because he knows they are different, he doesn't feel comfortable with them. Not so much an issue with the new technology, just the fact he knows it's not identical.
    Hopefully he'll sort this out before the last of the frames break; I really think it's purely a problem with the idea of a new frame, more than feel though. He just needs to break a load of new ones in and get used to it. :)

    By the way, this proves no one on TW need 10 of the same frame. :p If you can survive on the ATP with 3, then you can survive on the club/county circut with 3.
     
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    What are those 3 racquets?
     
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    Kind of weird that he can't find a simple mold and then have someone like P1 customize the frame to fit the exact specs of the ones he is using, I mean can it honestly be that hard for manufacturers to figure out the materials used and replicate something close?

    BTW - Downs_Chris, love your sig...
     
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    Unless....the material his racquets are made from is no longer available, which is what I read in the interview.

    Apparently, he has run out of his "stock" which were made for him. Dunlop has tried to replicate the frame apparently with new materials and has been unable to replicate the feel of the original frame. I really don't see this as that far fetched.

    I did see Roddick/Blake play Murray/Hutchison in doubles on the Tennis Channel and Blake is still carrying a Dunlop bag which implies that he is still working with them. If you noticed, Blake also refused to name the "other" racquet he tried.

    Blake tried in the past to change endorsements as evidenced by his deal with Prince. He wound up back with Dunlop. I think Blake is being honest with his predicament and the graphite has just changed enough that it doesn't feel right to him.
     
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  15. downs_chris

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    haha...thanks -- nice avatar! i'm guessing you play with the PSLGT too?
     
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  16. Xenakis

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    He should speak to Paul at Vantage.
     
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    Blake is a pro and he does not care about SW, stiffness etc. He goes by what feels right for him, when he picks up the stick. I think sometimes at the amateur level we can be guilty of looking too much into racket specs and modification, rather than just playing with a racket that is comfortable for your game.
     
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  18. JRstriker12

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    WOW! Good interview.

    Tough spot for Blake, he's used to a racquet that they don't make anymore and I doubt the manufacturers are going to move heaven and earth to suit him at this stage in his career.

    Maybe it's in his head? One racquet maker should tell him they found the super secret formula for his old sticks, set them up to the same specs and see what happens.

    I wonder if any other pro on tour is in this situation???
     
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    He could also check out Bosworth. IIRC, didn't Stepanek go with their custom frames?
     
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    When Blake weighs his racquets to 14+oz, 400+sw, and strings them at 70+lbs, he's going to realize that he needs 20+ racquets.

    O.O
     
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    I hope he finds sticks that can help get his mojo back. Poor James... he only has one more racquet than do I.
     
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    hasn't it been said in other threads that the quality of the graphite used these days is not as good as in the past? maybe this is what blake is detecting in the newer frames. not to say that he's so in tune that he can tell the difference in graphite quality, but something along those lines.
     
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    Interesting thought. So James's frames are older graphites? The Hotmelts?

    Cheers,

    Greek Goliath
     
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  24. wangs78

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    Three racquets is all Blake needs before retirement (i.e., soon!)
     
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  25. athiker

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    Interesting, thanks for posting. You don't read that stuff directly from players too often. I would lean towards at this point its just going to be hard for anyone to make a new racquet that feels like his broken in racquets. Even if someone made a racquet just like the ones he has, he wouldn't think they would "feel" right at this point!
     
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    Maybe no manufacturers see it as a worthwhile investment to make him the kind of frames he wants. I'm sure they could actually get the materials.
     
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    Agreed, which really sucks for Blake.
     
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  28. decades

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    why doesn't jame try out some of the sticks all the many players ranked above him use?
     
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  29. Hidious

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    He did just that with Roger's BLX 90...
     
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    I'm a huge Blake fan and was really hoping for him to make a comeback this year, but interviews like that make me doubt that it will happen. He's questioning his equipment way too much, to the point where he's wearing cage I's with the nike logos ripped off. fila must love that.

    but the three frames he has left are EU tiger frames, right? i think that was the consensus i remember from the old blake racket thread.
     
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    wahoo-wa!!!!!
     
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    I have to say I'm pretty picky about my equipment, too, especially shoes and racquet grip sizes (and women, too!), so I understand finicky-ness. I'm right there with ya JB.

    I can usually find about a pair of shoes I like per year (I'm a Nike ***** so they usually make one I can play in per year). I typically try to buy a couple as soon as I find something I like.

    Those shoes JB had on tonight against Almagro...obvious Nike Breathe blue and white Cage's. Why even bother ripping off the logo ---everyone knows what those are!

    Still, I would think a pro could pick up a new stick and, with about a week's worth of hitting, be pretty comfortable with it. I know those guys are extremely fine-tuned with their sticks and tension.

    Tsonga went from Wilson to Babolat and hasn't really had too much of a dropoff. Djokovic switched sticks, Agassi did it a couple of times.

    I think it's mental and that's the tougher battle to fight. JB might be getting in his own way these days if that's the case. I sure hope not. I really love his athleticism and shot making and hope he can stay around for as long as those three old sticks hold up!

    On another topic, I can't wait to see the day when people "paintjob" their clothes.

    Jeff
     
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    So what if Blake breaks a string during a match?!
     
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    What an idiot.....
     
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    Most likely not. Tennis is just one business group among many that shares the carbon graphite sheets/processes currently used in mfg.
     
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    The opposite is true.

    In the case of the new BLX raquets the basalt is actually a cheaper and lesser quality material than carbon graphite sheets. Now, how much basalt base material is used in Wilson's racquets? No idea.
     
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    James Blake has 3 racquets, but 4.0s on this board need 20 matched k90s.
    nice, real nice.
     
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    Would anybody have a pic of the Dunlop Revelation Tour 95(Asia-Pacific version?),similar mold as Haas Berdych Blake?
    Does it even exist?Thanks in advance.
     
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    Thank you
    Would anybody have a pic of the Dunlop Revelation Tour 95(Asia-Pacific version?),similar mold as Haas Berdych Blake?
    Does it even exist?Thanks in advance.
     
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    I hit with a Rev200 sometimes and the feel is incredible. I think Blake is so used to those classic Dunlop Pro molds, or Tiger/Tecnifibre frames..whatever he uses, they are all real solid and flexy graphite. I can completely relate to what he is is saying because the newer sticks do not have that feel.

    Ironically, the 4D200 for me recaptured a lot of that classic feel, and I wonder if he won't end up with a more flexible version of that.
     
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    Since James mold is from Tyger (or so i've heard on these boards) why can't he just contact them directly? I mean, they are still making racquets based off that mold (Exel Drive C20, same headsize and all).
     
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    if it were a direct shot, i would've said "20 J90s"...




    ....woops:shock:
     
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    I don't think that's the problem. In the interview, Blake indicated that they are using the same mold, producing the same flex, same swing weight, static weight, etc... But, the materials they are using do not produce the same feel. Ergo, the old materials may not be available any more...
     
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    How do you get in touch with this guy? Have a new Revelation 200G collecting dust.
     
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    Maybe my logic is flawed here, but isn't part of the problem according to James himself is the feel of the new racquets. He's playing with old frames that have been broken in and probably feel nowhere close to what they played like in the beginning. So even if he was able to get sticks to the same specs they would take time to break and have the same feel to them, would they not?
    I think the main issue is inside his head (epecially after watching his relentless back and forth with with chair umpire last night at IW.)
     
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    "I've got five people inside of me, all trying to be free" And only have a racquet for three
     
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