Jankovic's Slams Safina For Being #1? Is she a hypocrite?

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Was Jelena right to speak out against Safina.

  1. Yes as she is right! You need to beat the Williams to be considered number one

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  2. No, Safina is the worthy number one - rankings dont lie

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  3. Who is Jelena to critisize when she is acomplished even less as no 1 & less consistent too?

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  4. Jelena is jealous nobody talks of her as being elite anymore & addicted to drama.

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  5. Yes - we need more *****iness/catiness on the WTA - it makes it more interesting.

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  1. jones101

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    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/04082009/2/m-number-says-safina.html

    Don't know if this has been posted but Jankovic has decided to come out and give her view on the Safina holding the top spot.

    Jankovic said: "To be number one, you should be complete and if you are number one you have to be beating the Williams sisters."

    "I'm one of the rare players who has a positive record against the Williams sisters."

    Which is 8-8 for the record.

    "If I had to pick someone after me, I'd pick Serena," Said Jelena

    Safina hit back with -

    "The ranking system is not only based (on) if you beat Serena and Venus," she said. "It's based on how you play the whole year."

    "It has nothing to do with what your record is against them."

    "Did she beat them in the final of a grand slam? No. It doesn't count when you beat them at a tier four (tournament)."

    I'm glad Safina has defended herself as she has acomplished a lot more than Jelena has being number 1, and Jelena's reasoning it pretty dumb IMO.

    Safina is constantly having to defned herself lately and I feel for her.

    I would like to hear others opinions on whether Jelena was right to criticize when she acomplished little being no 1 herself.
     
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  2. FlamEnemY

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    No. She has no right.
     
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  3. maximo

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    It's hilarious because both of them talk about beating the William sisters which in a way means that they both know deep inside that one of them (Serena more likely) is the real #1.
     
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    Well Jankovic actually has a losing record against Serena, 3-4. But she's 5-4 against Venus and has won 5 of their last 7 matches.
    Ummm I know Jankovic got very tired of the criticism when she was #1 so you'd think she'd have some empathy for Safina...
    And who says you have to beat the Williams to be #1? I really don't see what they have to do with it especially if you don't get the chance to play them often when they're losing early in touraments.
     
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    True

    Jankovic IS being a hypocrite -- her spouting off about Safina is a way of deflecting how HORRIBLE Jankovic has been this year -- especially in majors. At least Safina made multiple Slam finals before reaching #1.
     
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    safina is out of touch
    jankovic is out of time
    serena williams is out of her head when they're not around





































    yes, she's a hypocrite
     
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  7. フェデラー

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    Serena should be no.1 and Venus should be no.2. WHile i agree with Jankovic, she is the last person that should be talking.
     
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    Why is Jelena running her mouth now?

    And why is it important to beat Williams sisters. Anyone can beat Venus outside of Wimbledon, and Serena is also vulnerable sometimes, especially on slow courts.

    Jankovic should consider her record against Henin, for example.

    Venus does nothing the whole year except try to win Wimbledon. She goes out early in all other slams. Why should she be No.2?? Maybe if she had won this year's Wimby, but she didn't even do that.
     
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    Why should Venus be #1? Her annual schedule is to win Wimbledon and then hibernate the rest of the year (although this year she didn't even win it). No way should she be above Safina.
     
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    Wow, Jankovic is a total hypocrite. What happened to when she threw the hissy fit about how "Federer should mind his own business" "Why does he care" and now she is the one taking shots at other players. Great.
     
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    How is Venus better than Safina. She currently has a QF, 3R, 2R and F result on her slams. While Safina has a SF, F, F, SF. Also Safina currently has 4 Tier 1 tourneys on her point total. Venus has 1.

    As for Serena. I dont think a no 1 player in the world is allowed to loose 4 matches in a row. But Serena has.
     
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    And people say the William sisters have no factor in the wta
     
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  13. フェデラー

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    last time i checked safina got raped by venus (and yes i know it was on grass but no.1s dont get bagled that often.
     
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    The game would not miss Jankovic.
     
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    Well well well ...I'm guessing the dbags who were criticizing Fed to no end are conveniently going to ignore this thread... :rolleyes:
     
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    Nice Hall and Oates reference! :)
     
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    Last time i checked Venus never even made the 2nd week of her worst slam. Safina did, and went far.
     
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    Although Venus is clearly a better player, Venus is ranked correctly at number 3.

    Here are Venus view on Safina being number 1.

    Venus was diplomatic when asked whether her sister, who holds a total of 11 Grand Slam titles, or Safina deserved the top ranking more. "Both players have their results and know their results and we shouldn't put one player down and one player up," she said. "They both did their best."

    http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/30072009/58/serena-patient-ranking-bid.html
     
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  20. JeMar

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    I dunno why she's taking a dig at Safina. It's not even like Jelena's ranked right behind her. There's three women ahead of Jankovic in the rankings, so maybe she should worry about those three.
     
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    If by never you mean never ever, Venus did make a FO final. But not this yr.

    Safina did beat Mauresmo, who a lot of people had her losing to.
     
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  22. All-rounder

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    One of them is soon to be Marion Bartoli lol :)
     
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    And Stosur....Jankovic has a LOT of points to defend the rest of the year -- probably even more than Safina.
     
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    And my girl Flavia!
     
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    Haha, Jankovic is pulling a Federer to Safina, only now the goal isn't to win a grand slam, but to beat Serena and Venus. Pathetic.
    I'm glad Safina defended herself, but she really has to win a slam soon or at least not be embarssed at the final like always.

    WTA is a mess.
     
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    FTR, Safina beat Venus in Rome this yr.
     
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    look I don't mind the back and forth but it gets a tad boring at the end:roll:

    Jankovic is an arrogant out of touch twat:roll:
    Safina knows she doesn't really deserve that ranking and can't for the love of god win a major so she's on the defensive:roll:
    Serena is whining because well she's not getting her way.Maybe if the WTA said to her i'll give you the #1 ranking since you have 2 majors and no MS win she'd stop yapping:roll:
     
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    Very mature. How was that word not censored?
     
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    Is it used in American English? I always thought it was only used in Britain. Maybe that's why.
     
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    Wow what arrogance for a 24 year one time old losing finalist of the US open. I guess some people are just born arrogant and a hypocrite as well.

    She should just say that Serena is the true number one and everybody would agree and praise her for saying it. But they want to keep the glory of the number one spot that is not rightfully theirs.
    Serena is the true number one and everybody knows it. In my opinion you have to at least win one slam to deserve that title.
     
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    LOOOOOL..This has got to be a joke :lol:
     
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    Yeah. It's very rarely used, it's such a vulgar word used to describe a woman. That and the cu... word are both used to describe women more harshly than the b-word.

    I guess it's more common in Britain.
     
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    Oh yeah we use it a lot in Britain, although not just for women. Any person of any gender can be called a t w a t. I believe it's technically a slang word for women's genitals but now is just a vulgar substitute for 'idiot' basically.
     
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  34. THESEXPISTOL

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    Jankovic is a joke!
     
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    Jankovic thinks she is Serena sometimes, and she hasn't done enough to back up her comments IMO.
     
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  36. Jelena Jankovic is a money- hungry *****
     
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    I'm laughing my rear end off :lol:
     
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  38. What's a "*****"?
     
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  39. That would be a b-i-t-c-h
     
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  40. I know.......I was just yoking. :)
     
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  41. Warriorroger

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    Jankovic should shut up and people should be blaming the Williams sisters not the ranking system. If they choose to play only the GS and pull out of every other tournament they plan to play in, that's their choise. Sure they are very talent players, but this attitude is what separates them from the real legends.
     
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    i disagree. i think the williams sisters are doing it right because they are not young anymore. it's better for them to play fewer tournaments and win the GS than to play more and run the risk of injure themselves. 10 years from now, people will talk about who won the grand slam titles, not who was the number 1 player in 2009.
     
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    Wo Im really getting sick of the WTA. When they arent screaming or choking, they are talking s**t on each other. So pathetic.
     
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    MEOW!!!! Finally some good stuff coming from the WTA! ha ha ha ha ha!!
     
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    Venus actually was a pretty good clay courter from 1998-2004. Never great, but pretty good. She is incompetent on the surface these days though, I wouldnt be surprised if she never went past the 3rd round of the French again.
     
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    Venus just seemed to be going through the motions at this year's French, she seems disinterested in that tournament now and that in itself will stop her going deep. I doubt she'll make the QF ever again and as you said even R16 will be very difficult from now on.
     
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    I agree. She brings nothing to the sport. A mediocre and boring game, alot of unneccessary drama and whiny attempts at personality. Anke Huber, Kimiko Date, and Amanda Coetzer retiring were even bigger losses to the sport han her retirement will be.
     
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    i totally agree with you, except, if they make the choice to go about it this way, you cannot expect to be the number 1 ranked player and should NOT comment about it, show some humility, ya know
     
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    Yeah I agree. She could play better at the event if she really put her mind to it. It is not like this is an amazing crop of clay courters. I think she just realizes even giving her all though she will never win there at this point even with the weakened clay court field and Henin's retirement, so she figures if she really has no shot of the title why bother.
     
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    Where is gj011 (who is also shouldretire and goyeji)?
     
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