Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by Sid_Vicious, Feb 5, 2013.
That's because he didn't.
He did say it. It is just his opinion and IMO he is not well informed about the topic. I don't recall Federer ever saying that tennis players don't deserve more prize money.
Honestly, most of those journalists on twitter are far more truthful than the crap people write on this forum.
Seems like the Nadal trolls are on the attack to prepare for Rafa's impending comeback. In all honesty, I could care less what Jerzy says. Really doesn't matter to me one way or the other.
Nothing has been lost in translation. Jerzy seems to believe that Nadal is natural.
What do you mean by Twitter has been wrong?
do you believe everything you read on Twitter?
J have read the actual interview. The translation is more or less adequate (in fact only a small part of the interview has been translated into English). Jerzy has been interviewed by Jakub Ciastoń.
This is just...weak.
Are you declining Suresh? You used to make trolling look so efortless while this particular post could have been written by any other TW Nadal fan.
yeah so that translation is from Google Translate, which isn't very reliable. I know nothing about Janowicz so I don't know what his relationship with Federer is like but there could be some jealousy there. Why does he keep getting elected President of the Players' Council if he's really like that? Makes no sense.
I'm not saying he did say it, but it is possible that not everything Federer says is reported in the press or can be found using google alerts. Some of those things he says might become known to other players.
However, the various translations of this interview show how carefully you need to take reports of what someone has said, and it is possible that Jerzy heard an incorrect report himself.
What is amusing is seeing some people reacting to him according to which player he might be slighting this time around. He's a welcome breath of fresh air if he makes a dig at the rival to my favourite, whereas he's getting ahead of himself if the dig appears to be aimed at my favourite!
It's pretty simple why as well, Federer doesn't really talk about these matters in public at all, so ofcourse that's when assumptions start getting thrown around.
Janowicz really needs to grow up. He won't have many friends if he shouts like he did in Melbourne or he comes out with this kind of interviews
You are offended by the things he says?
Imagine the stuff he holds back:twisted:
Jersey, Jersey, Jersey:
Learn to "walk softly and carry a big stick".
I like this kid but he needs to work with Allen Fox and learn to control his emotions and his mouth. Federer, Nadal, Djoko, Murray, Tsonga, and all the others don't say anything antagonistic toward their future opponents and their is a reason why. They don't want to give anyone more motivation than normal to kick their butt.
And, the on court drama that he displayed in Australia needs to be controled unless he is the 1 in 1,000 that plays better when angry like McEnroe.
My advice to Jersey is "shut and play, and be nice and respectful to your elders".
Of course the players hate Fed. But mostly they pity him for his pitiful behavior(09 AO crying incident, 11 USO blaming Djokovic for going for the return).
I didn't get this at first, but found it online.
How REFRESHING! Every person, IMO, has great and bad traits, I just like the real thing even if someone's a jerk (Not saying he is), I just wish we had more of this.
Imagine watching Murray and Djoke play knowing they hate each other, heh, you have to admit it would make it more interesting.
We need more off that, Conners walking across the court getting in Mac's face, real drama instead of todays sterilized statements. Each time I get excited to hear the player talk about his match, but it's BORING, you KNOW what they are going to say, "So Roger, what do you think about todays match", "Well Andy played great, he's really improving" BORING. Wish he'd say "I played like crap, next time I'm kicking his butt".
Ali raised the bar for everyone in boxing, before him everyone was phony, quiet, but is Ali hated? No, people love him, because he was telling the truth.
The problem is that people on this forum love to bash the top players for being PR-friendly and spineless, but when the top players do occasionally voice an opinion on something, everyone on here grabs a pitchfork and bashes the player in 20-30 page threads.
I remember when Murray said that Federer had lost a step a few years ago. People on this forum were bashing Murray for speaking the truth "lolol. Mugray needs to win a slam before opening his mouth"
Federer got bashed for saying that the outcome of his matches against Nadal are dependent on only his tennis. If he plays well, he wins. If he doesn't, Nadal wins. (That was after RG 2011)
Nadal apparently bumps into Rosol at Wimbledon....this forum went crazy over Nadal's bullying and thuggish ways. Funny how Mcenroe and Connors boorish behavior gets overlooked now. Nadal is a saint when it comes to sportsmanship compared to those two.
Nalbandian got bashed for weeks for injuring that lines person leg at Queens last year.
So, there is really no incentive to being a bad boy and it is better off playing it safe.
I can't wait to see Janowicz vs federer in a Masters 1000 or a Halle-type tournament (an unimportant one). Will he go a step further than Raonic?
This has indeed become rather awkward for me. Hoping Radwanska doesn't get involved...
I like his attitude.
I think too many players are in awe of the top 4 which you can't do or you will never beat them.
I am not sure Janowicz will beat them regularly but with his game he has a chance and he still pretty young.
How do you guys know whether Federer said that the pay was OK?. Janowicz would be more likely to know.
And Davydenko said a similar thing.
Also, as someone pointed out, Hewitt said a similar thing about there being some distance with him.
Fed has been very involved with the negotiations to raise the pay of the low-ranked players. He's done some negotiating with the slams together w/ the other top 4, and other stuff more with the council. There was a newspaper article about "Fed the power broker" which was posted here which detailed the massive number of hours he put into such negotiations during the recent Shanghai Masters.
What is also true is that Fed was taken aback when the issue first arose, as it seemed to come out of nowhere. And he didn't like the talk/threats of boycott as he was worried that could damage the game. If some players want to take offense at his initial reaction, fair enough. But he's been re-elected to the Council since then and has been working hard on the issue.
As for Fed being "distant", he's never had many close friends on tour but he's always been known as friendly in a general way, and very welcoming to new young players. Andy Murray said in his first year on tour Fed was the only guy who bothered to say "hi" to him and make him feel like he was included and part of the group, so to speak. Even Vince Spadea in his book who was nasty about almost anyone had nothing bad to say about Fed who always bothered to say "hi" to him in the hall. See the recent Tsonga quote on Fed, etc etc.
Does that seem like someone who is not working on trying to raise the player's winning money?
Also another article detailing Fed's work in the past year or so with this very issue as Emet mentioned.
So Fed was taken aback when the pay issue arose, because it came out of nowhere? So was he thinking that things were just fine and dandy, even though he is the player council president. It has always surprised me that he did not see the unfairness of it all much earlier, he has been the president for such a long time now and the oldest and supposedly wisest among the top 4.
Props to him for currently working on it though.
Are we really sure Federer said "the prize money was ok" or that he was just passive in that meeting generally "okaying" the players' stand? It definitely DOESN'T come out that way from any of the other reports. Most players just accused him of not getting public attention or being all loud and bombastic in the meeting.
In the end though, he was the one holding all the negotiations while guys like Nadal conveniently backed out.
As far as I'm concerned players like Jerzy just want more money for less work. Clearly, we live in an era where mediocrity is to be rewarded.
Also, I heard Nadal is getting some hefty appearance fee for these mickey-mouse tournaments he's playing. I wonder why I thought he was a Champion of the 'poor man.' :?
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