Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by a529612, Aug 31, 2004.
How would you rate him? I think he'll go far if he works on his net game.
He actually played pretty well, despite the score. I agree that his net game needs improvement. One of the commentators said he molded his game to Roger Federer and then a few points later he had a sitting volley and dumped it in the net. He does have a pretty good baseline game and serve, but he definitely needs to build up consistency and his net game. He might go far, it's hard to tell, maybe making the 1st round in a slam might inspire him to work harder, his family seems really supportive. Anyway, best of luck to him, he took a pretty bad loss tonight.
When he got rid of the nerves at the end of the second/third set he played pretty well, yeah. I'd like to see a stat of how many points he won on Roddick's serve.
Andy gets points in my book for showing respect to his opponent and playing seriously.
Hard to say. I watched just a little of the match (little of the first set, and the last). His strokes didn't look real consistent and almost flawed fundamentally. His backhand for example didn't look that great. He has a decent kick serve, but I dunno how many easy points he can win with it.
Obviously this guy's gotta be pretty good to win in Kalamazoo. But on the atp tour your weaknesses are magnified to the nth degree. He's still young, so obviously he can still mature and get better....but i don't even see him in the class of a young ginepri or blake. Just my opinion.
He's only 17 years old though, let's not forget that.
You're not normally suppose to be playing like Nadal at 17. :lol:
The odds that he ever makes it big on tour are very slime. Sure, he's one of the best players in the U.S., but he has to compete against the best players from around the world. He's 9th in the ITF juniors, which means that there are 8 players ahead of him in the world. Do you think those top 9 players will all do well in the ATP? Obviously not. So it would make sense that the best odds go to the front of the pack. I do think that of this current crop of young american juniors (Evans, Jenkins, Oudsema, and one other) that one will probably do pretty well on the tour. Obviously our eyes should be peeled for Monfils, because he's the dominant force on the junior circuit right now, and it will be interesting to see how his complete domination of the juniors will transfer to the tour when he does turn pro.
Did he get $10k something for playing at USO's first round even though he lost the match?
A lot of the French boys who have won junior slams or were highly successful as juniors have been either, (A) huge disappointments like Jeanpierre (#2 to Federer hasn't cracked top 100), (B) relative disappointments like Di Pasquale (always injured but good when healthy, (C) Jury still out: Gasquet and to a lesser degree Mathieu.
A mentally strong French ATP player is basically an oxymoron; does they really exist? Its almost like they win so much as juniors they take a lot of things for granted on the senior tour.
Jenkins does seem to be very quick and athletic, his game looks a little one dimensional and he has the dreaded "Czech" style high ball toss. I think he is going to be better than the highly hyped Brian Baker and Brendan Evans.
To answer a3434354 question he gets 14K for the singles and since he plays doubles as well he'll pick up whatever he gets for that. I believe he's not going to college so he will keep all of that.
He is turning 18 in 23 days 8)
I thought the same thing Victor, as a coach, the rhythm and timing on his strokes and footwork looked very very poor by world class pro standards BUT he was obviously and understandably overwhelmed by the occasion. Since tension and nerves often play havoc on those very things, I dont' think that match was indicative of his strokes...or at least I hope not.
I did think he handled himself well in the last set and a half. He didn't give up or rush to get off the court, he fought and played a bit better. That in itself was impressive.
Jenkins has a pretty major hitch in his forehand that will prevent him from doing well at the next level unless it's fixed. His backhand technically is actually much better when compared to his forehand. At 17 for him to be hitting serves 129mph is pretty darn good and you could tell physically he has a ton of maturing to do. Hopefully we get to see more of him in the future. Winning Kalamazoo is no joke and he only lost one set on his way to victory in that tournament. None of his matches including the final were really all that close.
ChiefAce, i noticed that hitch as well, but of course was afraid to speak up about it LOL. Jenkins looked like a deer in headlights that entire match.
Not sure that I agree that Brian Baker is "hyped" - how many TW posters even knew who he was before taking a set off Moya ??
I was @ the Baker/Moya match & I thought it was a bold move by Baker chosing to recieve 1st in the match. Even in the warmup I could sense that Moya was a little off his game, & it was evident in the 1st few games as well. Granted Baker didn't win, I think his fitness & inexperience did him in, but, he showed me alot more then Jenkins or Rajeev Ram for that matter.
I agree that Jenkins will have trouble hitting his FH against players that hit pretty hard with alot of penetration. THere is just no way you can avoid being rushed with a pause like that at the beginning. I'm looking forward to seeing how he can develop in the next 2 years, his serve is obviously pretty solid already, but he needs to work on the 2nd. His net play is going to have to develop also. If Roddick had hit his best groundies, I think it would have been a VERY boring match.
Neither Baker nor Jenkins appear to have any weapons in their cache of talent, so it'll be interesting to see if they can make it on the pro tour and how far they'll go.
Props to both kids for keeping their nerves mostly in tact (even tho' Baker cramped from his nerves in the second set with Moya)
He took a set off Moya because Moya played like crap for most of the match.
Ive seen both Baker and Jenkins play at Kalamazoo and at the open this year. Both guys games are counterpunch good return, with decent serves. Agree no major weapon but does Vince Spadea have a major weapon. They have a chance to make it on the tour, but not to be top 5.
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