Jimmy Connors on Andy Murray

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  1. BaseLineBash

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    "Everybody puts so much pressure on him - he's just a young kid still and even though he's been around a bit and had some experience, a career is not made on just one or two tournaments or one or two years.

    "It's made over the lifetime of going out there and grinding it out.

    "He's got a lot of time to work things out, and I'm sure with the people around him that have his interests at heart, that he'll figure something out to make it possible to get as far as he can.

    "But everybody says 'Where do you want him to go - top 10, top five?' You can sit an talk about it all you want, but the end result is it's only up to him.

    "He has to go out and play the kind of tennis that's necessary to win, and if he's willing to dedicate himself and sacrifice, then we'll see just how far he can go."
     
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  2. TennisProPaul

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    is jimmy his new coach?
     
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    No, Murray is in the works to get Brad Gilbert. Just thought it was insightful to post Jimbo's opinion.
     
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    Nope. From what I've been hearing, Jimmy is going to coach Roddick (hopefully back into the top 5).
     
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    Has Connors ever coached anyone before? As a player, he's a legend, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll make a good coach.
     
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    Connors as commentator

    I was very impressed to hear Connors as commentator on the Federer/Nadal final in Wimbledon. The most insightful was when he said, "When you see them move, Nadal is running. Federer looks like he just came out of ballet school."

    That comment is a classic. Unlike other commentators who comment on what just happened or what they had just seen, Connors talked about what Nadal has to do to get back into the match, what's going thru the player's mind, etc.

    Great commentator.
     
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    Connors did have a gig working with the English LTA though didn't he? I think he has had some personal experience with Murray.
     
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    Yeah, he does. I hope that Jimmy can put Roddick back the way he was in 2003 (a lot more powerful) and then some more.
     
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    Jimmy's value as coach is purely psycho/mental. Jimmy showed just how unimportant technique really is!
     
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    Do what? Jimmy Connors' footwork was as good as it gets. His racket work was exemplary as well. His longevity was due in no small part to the fact that his strokes were long and flat. That meant he didn't have to maintain the great timing it takes for someone like Borg or Nads to hit the ball. Likewise, his whole game was built on solid fundamentals.
     
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  11. Stinkdyr

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    ah, ok, you silly Wabbit. Take a look at Jimbo's serve again. Tell me you think that was anything to swoon over. He was quick, he returned well, and he was mentally tough...usually. But he got tooled whenever Nastase decided to turn up the talent dial.
     
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    I don't recall mentioning his serve. Connors had an adequate serve, but as the pioneering power baseliner, he relied more on footspeed and groundstrokes to win points, not serving. Connors' serve was consistent and he was able to, against most opponents, keep his opponent away from the net with it.

    He returned well? Are we talking about James Scott Connors? He is consistently mentioned as one of the two best returners the game has ever seen the other being one Andre Agassi. Connors did his with a racket that was smaller in head size than a standard wood frame.

    Don't let me confuse you with facts with regard to Nastase. Connors was not owned by anyone except Borg. Connors had an 8 - 12 record against Nastase. That said, Nastase won 10 of the first 11 meetings they had. All of these were prior to 1974 which was Connors' breakthrough year. After that, Nastase's record was 3 - 7 versus Connors (one of those 3 was a walkover as well so Natase won only 2/8 matches after 1974). Six of their last 7 meetings were won in straight sets by Connors. Connors has 105 titles to Nastase's 52 titles.

    Nastase was/is my favorite player. But, facts are facts, Connors was/is one of the greatest competitors (and a-holes) to ever pick up a racket. His mechanics and footwork are still textbook stuff. As a footnote, both Connors and Nastase paid homage to a player they thought was the greatest, Ricardo "Pancho" Gonsales. Nastase often referred to Gonzales as "Little Father" while Connors often mentioned if he had to have someone play a match for his life, he'd have none other than Pancho Gonzales.
     
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    I'm pretty sure it was McEnroe that was working a bit with Murray and the British LTA.
     
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    Here's the link that talks about McEnroe working with the LTA and hitting with Murray http://www.sportsmediainc.net/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=13369. Doesn't sounds like there was much there.

    "It didn't amount to a hill of beans, to be honest," McEnroe said of his work for the LTA. "The only time I played Murray was when I played him in London in the Super Set event when I actually played him in something. But it wasn't actually set up for me to play with him and that's sort of disappointing because I thought there'd be something more to that (working with the LTA or Murray). But I know (former British Davis Cup player) Mark Petchey (who is working with Murray) and he came to me at Wimbledon and we discussed the idea of maybe trying to hook up at times."​
     
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    connors was not owned by borg either. they were 10-7 borg, not includng seniors, where connors had an edge. borg also retired before the tide could turn. connors nstead defeated borgs conquerer, mcenroe, at wimby and the us open. connors also defeated borg in two slams finals, one on clay.
     
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  16. framebreaker

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    but so were the racquets of the servers...
     
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  17. Hal

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    A larger frame seems to affect the return game more. There was a study done with Philippoussis a few years ago. He was able to serve almost as fast with a wooden racquet as he was with a new modern racquet. There was only a few mph difference in speed. I don't think the study addressed spin potential, though. The one conclusion that was made, was that he seemed to have greater accuracy with a racquet of longer length.

    Anyway, if you think about it, the server proabaly hits the ball in pretty much the same spot for all of his/her serves. However, the return would have more off-center hits. This is where the larger head modern racquet would certainly help.
     
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    As a huge Andy Murray fan i wish he would look more at Cahill than Gilbert.
     
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    Cahill is great as well, but Darren is a lock for Fed after Andre.
     
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