John Isner, ace machine watch Australian Open 2013

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  1. FedExpress17

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    I like both players :) Gut feeling is Isner in three with one tiebreak, something like 4-6 7-6 6-4
     
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    You can't underestimate a player like Dodig who has beaten the likes of Nadal and Tsonga, that said am confident John will have too much game for the Croat and seal his place in round 3.
     
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    Great match today between Isner and Dodig. Some clutch serving in the final tiebreak from the big man to close it out. Heres looking forward to Isner vs Cilic, where we will hopefully see some big serving and agressive shotmaking that might make these slow courts look a bit faster :)
     
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    Yeah good point John showed today that as Peter Fleming said "he is a true warrior" John was far from his best today but his aura and never say die attitude got him through!
    It will be a tough match v Cilic but John has shown today once again that with his serve and passion he has a shot v anyone.
     
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    Hope his fitness will hold up. The commentators said something about him hurting his leg when he stumbled after being lobbed. He needs to be mobile if he's to make the desired impact in the later rounds of tournaments......
     
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    It did seem like he tweaked his calf hopefully he will be ready to go come the Cilic match :)
     
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    Excuses coming up..

    Anyways at this stage Isner, Haas, Malisse, Janowicz, Zemlja, Falla, Muller, Istomin know that their career will be defined by their performance in the majors and the masters is all just gravy.
     
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    idk this thread to me is just extremely uninteresting
     
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    John showed champion spirit this week v Dodig but came up just short verus and inspired Cilic!

    The Davis Cup will be a great test for John but playing the USA in the UsA on fast tracks and with John's serve will not be a prospect that the Serbs are relishing that's for sure!
     
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    Awesome performance last night from John taking out Harrison in straight sets proving that what happened down under was a injury related!

    I expect John to cruise through later today against the talented Jack Sock!
     
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    I wonder if John went to watch Wrestlemania this past weekend? I know he is a massive fan and never misses a wrestling show, and has been in attendance at Wrestlemania's in the past.
     
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    Hypothetical situation: John Isner hits 4 aces every service game and takes his opponent to the tie break where he breaks their serve once winning 7-6(7-5). He does this every set to win in straights at a major.

    If he were to ever develop an untouchable accurate serve and wins a grandslam, what would you consider him? A disgusting ace machine, or a one slam wonder?
     
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    Considering John has never made it past the quarters in a major, I would call it a miracle.
     
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    John up next in Houston after the Bryan Bros!

    Worringly for the field Johns returns were on point last night breaking Ryan 3 times in a set this level of ferioious hitting to go with John's already devastating serve is going to make life very difficult indeed for the rest of the tour!
     
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    Funny... John has a long way to go to even be considered a dark horse at a majors. Forget the many areas where John's game is lacking. Can he last for 5 sets over two weeks given his size? That couldn't be easy.
     
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    The only people who consider John a darkhorse are the American media who want to hype another American player and Ark.
     
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    Great performance from John last night Sock is s young up and coming player and it is never easy being the hunted as John was last night yet he hit 15 aces and converted 4 out of 4 break points this is incredible form and is very ominous ahead of the French Open and Wimbledon for the rest the tour!
    John will take on Berankis who beat Haas later in the quarterfinals
     
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    Big man Isner is priming himself for another showdown with Rafa at RG. This time the golden giraffe shall be victorious. People are going to be complaining that RG is too fast once they see the ace sandwiches big John serves up.
     
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    Yes it is truly ominous that Isner narrowly edged out well-known clay titan Jack Sock in the second round of a minor event. The warning shot has been fired; the repercussions shall be devastating.

    This single-handed puts Isner as the man to beat at this year's French Open.

    Rafael who? Isner is the man everyone will be gunning for when Roland Garros rolls around.
     
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    What I've learnt from this thread about Isner's talent...

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    Excellent giff where did you get it?

    Great performance from John tonight huge serving and some great convertor stats off the return too!

    Apart from one blip in the 2nd set on serve it was a very solid performance!
     
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    I uploaded the gif to http://minus.com/lbiaTnyIZ7IqjJ, and the direct link for it is the one I used(http://minus.com/lbiaTnyIZ7IqjJ).

    They'd best keep the courts well watered in Houston this weekend, otherwise an Isner inferno might burn up the clay and void the whole event.
     
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    John once again showed his champions mentality after losing the 1st set to last years Houston champions 61 he hit back to win the match 1-6 6-4 6-4 he played a superb brand of attacking tennis and came to the net on quite a few occasions he took the racket out of Monacos hand.

    John converted two of of his three breakpoints if he continues to return as well as this, to go with his monster like serve he is going to be a tough man for anyone to stop!
     
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    John created a bit of history today becoming the first American in 15 years to beat a Spaniard in a clay court final amazing achievement! Not only is John serving huge as always but his returns and groundies have been backing up his huge serve!

    As I have said many times the majors from here on in are what will defines John's career but on this form it is going to take an incredible performance from someone to stop John at the French Open.
     
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    :lol:

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    I want to hear how much smack you will be talking in the next few weeks when your over grown serving dork has to play the big boys, I have a feeling you won't have much to say.
     
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    It'll take a top 30 clay specialist to beat John in 4...and in the second round.

    Congrats to him today, and I'm happy for him, but he stands no chance right now of winning any slams.
     
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    Sensational performance from John yesterday to take out a clay court specialist in his fortress, John now is confident he is hungry this combined with his huge serve and all our attacking style is going to make him very tough to beat this week in Madrid.
     
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    I gotta agree with you.
     
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    ark is a rec player and has probably seen a fellow rec player with a huge serve (I've seen ark's practice footage and his own serve is far from a weapon), felt powerless to return it, and extrapolated that a big serve is all you need to win anything at the pro level.

    Yet he fails to realize that at the pro level, big serves are faced all the time, and they can actually return them.
     
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    My serve is improving all the time but this thread is about John not my serve or people at my club and for your information my return is one of my strengths so unless I am up against the club pro or the best players I am not aced that often, but I still have the common sense to realize the importance of a huge serve takes you a long way in this sport.

    The fact of the matter is John has beaten Roger Novak and taken Nadal to 5 at the French Open, his serve helped him a great deal in achieving these amazing accomplishments.
     
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    His serve is pretty much the only reason for his accompishments. Ground game and movement has improved, but no way can he compete without that serve.
     
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    Big John comes into this event with a clay court title under his belt in achieving this feat he became the 1st American to beat a Spaniard in a red clay final since 1998!

    Snce then John has managed his results superbly well and comes into the French Open feeling fresh and rested! A fresh John Isner is a dangerous prospect to the rest of the tour, with his monster serve and huge all court game.
     
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    No. He will not make 3R.
     
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    Time will tell I personally think Wimbledon is his best shot at winning a Grand Slam indeed he himself said this, but the fact remains he is a danger to the games elite players on this surface!

    No top seed is going to want to see their name next to John in the draw that is for sure.
     
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    Arky :-D havent seen you posting in a while, great to see you back :) looking forward to see john in action at the French open, would be nice to see him to draw Nadal early and finish what he started in 2011 ;) People trying to diminish his achievement of taking Nadal to 5, just sickening really, as it was just as good if not better than Soderlings performance in my opinion :( Rooting for John to prove his critics wrong with some aggressive first strike tennis.
     
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    Excellent post, as you rightly say, what Soderling achieved and what John achieved v Rafa at the French are both unique achievements with John's being arguably the harder of the two simply because, there are a few guys with big weapons that if they are on their game can take Rafa out relatively comfortably, on any surface, Soderling with his huge game managed this while Del Potro at the US Open and Tsonga have also managed it on other surfaces at the US Open and Australian Open respectively.

    Isner by contrast when toe to toe with Nadal at the most prestigious clay court event in the world and pushed Nadal to the brink in his own fortress, both mentally and in terms of endurance that is a far harder and more daunting task IMHO.
     
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    Be realistic. Isner was broken 5 times on clay by none other then robin Hasse and Isner rarely wins easily on clay in a best of 5. You should have very low expectations going into the French open of Isner, he is in no form what so ever.
     
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    It's going to be a big ask for John to win the French Open this year, but I certainly think he can influence the final outcome in a big way. He did win a title on clay in Houston, but as you say had a few minor setbacks in recent weeks, realistically it should mean he is more fresh for the challenge at the French Open and Wimbledon, where he has his best chance of winning that maiden Grand Slam title.
     
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    Fantastic job by John dispatching a clay court specialist in Berloq so comprehensively, tomorrow he faces Ryan Harrison in round 3! A place in round 32 beckons... The longer the run of Johns goes on the more it is going to send shivers down the spines of the world's elite players.Anyone that can hit a serve up to 148 mph from that height and with the brand of big man tennis that John plays, can give fits to the rest of the tour!
     
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    John yet again showed today what a warrior he is, down 2 sets to love and he storms back to win in 5!

    John now heads into the last 32 of the French, Haas has been in great form and you cannot take him lightly, but John has won 3 of their 5 previous matches and with the big man's serve which kicks up like a mule at pace on a clay court, and huge forehand, the match is very much on John's racket.
     
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    I believe Hass will handle Isner the same way he did, the last time they played. If Hass can get in John's service games, big edge to Tommy.
     
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    I don't think Isner has much left in him after that marathon. Haas meanwhile, has the form to bring him down and I believe he will.
     
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    Thank you come again!
     
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    John cruised through yesterday, this is fantastic new John has identified this slam as being the best chance to win a major, Nadal is now out of his way, so it is 1 down 6 to go for Big John
     
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    Good luck to Big John...now that Nadal's out, I can start rooting for other players
     
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    John first up on court 3 tomorrow the hottest ticket in town seeing big John in his quest for greatness on the hallowed turf
     
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    Big John has hit back from injury and is looking stronger than ever.. Many tipped John to go all the way at Wimbledoj this year but sadly join has to retire with injury, against Adrian Mannarino, John however proved last night that this was an aberration as he hammered Manarino in straight sets this is fantastic news for tennis fans around the world.. But ominous indeed for the rest of the tour.
     
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    John wins against one of the tours hottest young prospects in 3 sets this is fantastic news for the tour and fans around the world, but it is of course ominous for the rest of the field in Atlanta this week!
     
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    John plays the former world number 4 James Blake in just over an hour it promises to be a block buster encounter.
     

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