Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by ark_28, Jan 4, 2013.
Oh man this thread again.
JJ is going to do better than Isner! I like Isner but he is not going to do much better unless he takes return lessons from novak murray Aggasi and conners. Even when he gets returns back most of the time he is in huge trouble because his return is short. The only things I really feel Isner has going for him are his serve and offensive forehand. Other than that he is kind of useless. JJ on the other hand has much more reliable strokes, a serve that i feel is just as effective and he moves quite well especially for being as tall as he is
How did that turn out again?
John sadly had to withdraw due to injury which robbed organisers and fans around the world we also saw other big names such as Federer and Nadal go out in the 1st three days so it was something of a freakish year.
Fantastic performance from John last night through in straights v the former world number 4 James Blake.... He faces a great player in Hewitt in the semis but as ever the match will be on John's racket.
Big John into the final tonight v Anderson.. Another big title awaits!
Except Isner has never gotten past the 2nd round at Wimbledon. So for him it was actually a pretty normal year.
The fact of the matter is ,John came into this years tournament with the backing of legends such as Jim Courier, Mac and Martina!
His injury was certainly a blow to the tennis world but I am sure his rivals breathe a huge sigh of relief, taking nothing away from Andy Murray he thoroughly deserved his title, but winning SW19 and not having to face Isner the man who has hit a record number of aces on this surface mean that understandably there will alway be a few question marks around Wimbledon 2013 especially when one looks at the scare JJ (an inferior but similar style player to John) gave Murray.
But it's arguable that Janowicz is superior to Isner at the moment, at least at Wimbledon. After all, Isner has never made it past the 2nd round in 5 appearances there while Janowicz made it to the semis on only his second appearance.
Plus you keep conveniently ignoring the fact that Murray owns their H2H (currently 2-0) whilst he is 1-1 v Janowicz. So why do you persist with your wishful fantasy that Isner would somehow be more of a danger to Murray at Wimbledon than Janowicz has been?
Backings don't give you titles, performance does. Lately, Isner has not done anything special which could make him a grandslam contender.
You are not acting rational but rather driven by the fanboyism.
Isner wins his 2nd title of the year saving championship points along the way! This man has to be the best clutch player in tennis right now.. This is very ominous for the rest of the tour.
Yeah. Winning that 250 event really puts fear into his opponents. Tell me, how many current top 10 players did he beat on his way to the title this time?
The ace machine just keeps going! John looks like the man to beat right now in North America... He has had so many haters but it is all falling into place now.
Yea, that draw fell into place nicely too.... Avoid all the talent to get to the final, that only comes with hard work in the gym and on the courts.
The guy won a tournament and had backed it up with another final most importantly he reached the final with a hold in under 60 seconds containing 4 booming aces! Give credit where it is due! John looks to be the man to beat in North America right now.
And so far he has played nobody, till he plays someone and doesnt get a cake of a draw like this week and proves something he can gfhs... Everything wrong with tennis and American tennis coverage. You probably one of the idiots clapping after every ace/service winner, seeing no quality to speak of. Sorry, I dont share your view of Isner, I will hold my aplause for when he hangs it up...
Let's see what he can do vs Del Potro today
Btw, what happened on 3-17-13?
Nadal won Indian Wells
More importantly Nadals draw won i.dian Wells for him.
More importantly Nadals draw won i.dian Wells for him. This made him a relevant player again off clay... Really? How long was the time off? How long since he won a major hardcourt title... Just affirms the 96 USO draw to me, and the fact that draws and scheduling can play a huge role in who wis a tourney not just who is playing the better tennis.
Hold on, so you actually think there is a conspiracy on fixed draws or something?
I know Nadal played Gulbis in the SF, but was his draw moderate in general?
Didn't Djokovic-Haas play each other? Did the other player's draw favor Nadal as well?
I dont "think" the mentioned USO was proven to initially be fixed... A threatened boycott forced a redraw. No one cn dispute that, now think about how much more money is involved now. Seems simple to me, certain players need help, more often than not on those respective surfaces they seem to get that "luck". Their are too many instances to list, and even in regards to players who beat 2 or 3 top ten oponents in route to the final. Clearly they were deserving of the title just by quality of opponents they beat,but having to win that 3rd or 4th quality match proves too difficult. IW, Delpo was the better player, had Nadal played Djokovic and Murray to get to the final.... Likely he doesnt even make the final, then with the knee issues he would be playing the 2 better HC grinders, he was playing what like 5-6 Weeks straight? He would havewent down in straights. Instead he gets known yo be injured, nonfactor Fed and rollover content with semi Berdych. Please its not even a question had they both played one of Murray or Djoko and Delpo get an easier semi or quarter he has the energy to finsh Nads in the second set (like he should have) or if needed the third.
This is circumstantial. I don't think the ITF is responsible for this. The better players who competed in Nadal's draw should have beaten him. For example, Ernests Gulbis had many opportunities to beat Nadal. However, he made too many mistakes. I didn't see the JMDP match though..
First, that is an ATP tournament. Second more circumstantial (glaring evidence) Djoko v Fed draws, rediculous skew in "luck" of the draw. Third, when an organization, or collective group of organization whos only motive is promotion & money cant even keep the sport clean and show no real initiative to do so, allow a meth head to compete and countless other goings on they will never have my trust. I love tennis, play a few times a week, have shoveled snow off courts when I was younger to get a session in. IMO tennis at the moment has no integrity to speak of.
Didn't Nadal play Fed? Did we know before the tourney, Feds back was bothering him?
indian wells del potro came from a set down in successive days to beat murray and then djokovic, on the 3rd day he played nadal in more hot sun and..didn't quite have enough oomph after all that to win after winning the 1st set and up a break in the 2nd.
True, but I think I felt Nadal was going to win it, he had an air of destiny.
I know, but the ITF is the governing body of all world tennis. ATP is one of the 210 tennis associations..
I don't even know or care anymore. Use Google.
Delete, mistaken post.
No, the ITF has no "authority" over the ATP which is the tourneys where most pro players make their money and have a players council. They cooperate together but are independent of each other.
Then you could explain how the ITF had no idea the 96 USO draw was fixed, when that is part of their job... Do you really believe they were completely oblivious to the injustice?
discussing about Nadal and Federer on the John Isner topic
So what happened to your boy today?
John's fantastic form continues with a straight sets demolition of Mayer. Last week John had a match v Popisil in the palm of his hand that was one that got away, but the Canadian went on to have a career week.
Gasquet ought to be concerned and will likely still be scarred from the hammering Novak came him in Montreal, John will be ready to pounce and exploit these vulnerabilities.
As predicted Sir John Isner was far too good for Gasquet today.
Another day another win for Sir John Isner taking out one of the form players Raonic!
Whatever happens this week John now has matches under his belt and will be ready to go at the Open! That being said Novak is likely to have some mental scars from his loss to Rafa last week and John will be looking to exploit that tomorrow.
This was Milos' 9th match in 10 days (6 straight matches from last Tuesday-Sunday, travel day Monday, 3 more matches Tuesday-Thursday), so I don't think you can really read too much into this win. Isner has no chance against Novak.
Good call John is playing big time tennis right now! It will take an exceptional performance to stop him.
An incredible week for John beating 3 top tenners in a row! He is one of the men to beat he truly is imposing his game on the rest of the field!
Isner v Nadal in the final tomorrow whatever the result big John has announced himself to the tennis world this week as one of the players to beat come the US Open
Come on John we believe in you! :-D
a fantastic start by Sir John Isner at the US Open brushing aside Volandri in a crushing victory.
Fantastic win last night by big John backing up the view that he is one of the men to beat in world tennis right now. With John's huge first serve and monster forehand the brand of big man tennis that he plays is going to be difficult for anyone on tour to cope with.
Isner continues to impress and inspire.
Isner has now been an offensive joke at the USOpen. He didnt even apologize to Kohly at the net for his boxes comments that offended Kohly.
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