Johnnie Mac

Discussion in 'Former Pro Player Talk' started by Setmatch45, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. Setmatch45

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    Not sure this is the proper section for this post but... I am a fan of Mac but why everytime he does a match does he have to mention his time as a player and Borg? We all know he was a great player as borg was as well but really John everytime? The other former player's may do it alittle but Mac does it every match. He is good enough at his present job on tv that he does not need to remind us that he was a great player.
     
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  2. Bowtiesarecool

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    The Macenroes both have no shame.
     
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  3. PeteD

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    He used to be completely crazy, now he's only slightly. Great asset to tennis, though.
     
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    Somehow, I'm not surprised.
     
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  5. Mustard

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    Was a 10 year old McEnroe in the Forest Hills crowd when Laver completed the 1969 Grand Slam? I ask because McEnroe never fails to tell us that Laver was his idol.
     
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  6. RF20Lennon

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    "I mean that was when I played against Bjorn my great rival!"
     
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  7. Gizo

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    The only reason McEnroe is a commentator is that it gives him the platform to massage his ego, stay in the limelight, remind people of how good he was and listen to the sound of his own voice.

    An unbearable egotistical jerk, but still one of the best things to even happen to tennis, given how he contributed to the sport becoming so popular in the 70s and 80.
     
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  8. Raul_SJ

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    Great player but a horrible analyst.

    Needs to be replaced by someone more articulate.
     
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  9. scotus

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    Some teenagers playing today don't even know who Sampras is.

    I bet you a lot of young kids have no idea who Borg is.
     
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  10. mental midget

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    i think some historical context during broadcasts isn't a bad thing. his personal point of reference does happen to coincide with some pretty famous moments in the sport. he does bring it up pretty often, but with regards to his own ego, it should be pointed out that he consistently remarks how what the current players are doing is equal to, and often better than, what he managed to achieve as a player. and his frequent borg references do seem more about heaping praise on his former rival, and providing a point of comparison with nadal, for example, than they are a vehicle for drudging up his own past glory.
     
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  11. gavna

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    Maybe you need to find some old reruns of matches called by Newcombe, Ashe, Gonzalez, Segura, Dell, McKay back in the 70s thru the 80s...all those guys would talk on and on (I personally think in a good way) about old rivals, matches or coaches ( ie every Aussie would talk about Hopman)....Stolle is one that didn't do it.
    I love McEnroe and considering his stature in the sport I have no issues at all with his commentary.
     
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  12. Mustard

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    I'll never understand why ESPN broke up the commentary team of Cliff Drysdale, Fred Stolle and Mary Carillo.
     
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  13. Raphael

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    I liked Drysdale and Stolle.

    Mac is not the "perfect" commentator, but without him who is left?

    -His brother who just says "Hello!" when someone hits a hard shot?
    -Mary Carillo whose claim to fame is that she won mixed doubles at the French with Mac?
    -Brad "everybody should respect how great I am" Gilbert?
    -Pam "I struggle for relevance because nobody knows who I am" Shriver?
    -Navratilova and Evert who were great players but can't commentate at all?

    One of the best matches I ever saw in terms of commentary was a QF? night match at the USOpen between Federer and Roddick where Agassi joined Mac and the studio goon in the booth. The 2 ex players gave really good insight about both players and the studio goon mostly stayed quiet. It was nice.
     
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  14. rkelley

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    USO 2007 QF between Roddick and Fed. Agassi gave a witheringly frank appraisal of Roddick's game. Agassi and Mac were great (and I'm not a fan of Mac's commentary generally). Studio goon was smart enough to stay quiet and let Mac and Agassi talk.

    Great match btw. Huge power and consistency from both guys. Both of them had like three times the winners as UFE. The first two sets were decided by just a couple of points. Both tie breakers.
     
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  15. Goosehead

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    studio goon :mrgreen::p
     
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  16. RF20Lennon

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    I really love JMac he gives great Insight IMO. Id love to see him jason-goodall team and Cahill do a match together!!
     
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  17. McEnroeisanartist

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    Agreed, although I think Trabert, Summersall, and Newcombe were even better.
     
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    I wanna hear Garrison Keillor commentate a grand slam final...
     
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    That was incredible. I still think of things Andre said during that match. I don't know why they don't get him back -- often!
     
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  20. Tennis Dunce

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    I always gave Mac the benefit of the doubt because he was mentally ill...OTOH Connors was just a natural jerk with no excuses.
     
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  21. magnut

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    Its just ego. It will always be that way with Macenroe. Commentary is a soap box for John.

    My favorite commentator is Wilander. He the only one I have seen that goes deeper than shotmaking and percentage play. Wilander take it to a psycological level that other commentators ignore. A casual fan of the game would not understand most of the things he says.

    I do have a fondness for Carillo. Her point of view on the progression of the game is genuine and she never seems to be pushing a product/player/image etc.

    Also a mention to Vitas. He was a great commentator and probably my all time favorite. Interesting, analytical, no ego, and fun! He was the best. He really made you want to go out and play the game after watching.
     
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  22. comeback

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    The McEnroe's have the name and all the current commentators have to have a recognizable name as a player..One thing i couldn't stand about the McEnroe's was how they referred to players ranked over 75 as "journeymen" Someone must have told them how silly they sound..I also didn't care for MJ Fernandez or Pam Schriver but they have improved as have all those commentating now to an acceptable level..Darren Cahill is my least favorite..Chris Evert has improved a lot,,Wish i could hear Boris Becker
     
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