Juan Martin del Potro Appreciation Thread

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  1. Love Game

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    Thought I should start a thread for the man some on this forum said would never win a grand slam. Since delPotro did just that on Monday, September 14, 2009, he deserves an appreciation thread where his fans can praise him and update each other on his latest news ... just share positive input about JMdP.

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    Particularly for Delpo's countrymen, his fellow Argentines: There were argentines who were unhappy with delpo for not scheduling toe surgery in 2008 so he could (they said) win the davis cup for argentina. They said he could have had argentina on a string if he had won then, and the rest of his tournaments (paris and shanghai in particular) should not have been played, because any ranking points and earnings he would have missed from them would have been more than made up for by having Argentina as his kingdom, so to speak.

    All's well that ends well. Now Delpo's the first Argentine man to win the USOpen since 1977 (32 years ago) when Guillermo Villas did it .....

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    Question for the Argentines: Does Argentina now love delPotro forever??? :D

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  2. Ripster

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    I fully support this thread idea. Del Potro is the man.
     
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  3. It was shame he didn't play in DC for Argentines. But they probably forgot all about that by now.

    He will definitely surpass Vilas as the greatest Argentine tennis player ever.
     
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    Well, he did play, but he was playing hurt so he lost. On a happier note, he played and won in Czech Republic! :)
     
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    Refreshing change seeing the champ wearing a sweater and jeans after the years of Fed's GQ outfits after winning. Fashion does NOT belong in tennis!
     
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    Awesome shot, thanks for sharing!
     
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    There's lots of pics to chose from ... Would you prefer one in action? maybe in the championship match? or more casual? :)
     
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    That is a big statement to make when you say definitely. I agree he well could but pretty amazing you would be so sure of that. Do you realize what Vilas has accomplished. For starters he won 4 slams. He was lucky to win 2 Australian Opens in depleted fields, but he also was super unlucky to be in the era of Borg on clay so the two balance out.
     
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    Kudos to JMDP on becoming latest grand slam champion.
     
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  10. Yeah, OK, 4 slams. I always thought he had only 2 slams for some reason :rolleyes:
     
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    DP looks better shaved.
     
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    Well the Australian Open was kind of a joke slam then and he wasnt really good enough to win a slam on grass with the top guys there so I guess it is like 2 slams in a way. :lol: However the legacy of Vilas is based mostly on his amazing record on clay when he avoids Borg if that makes any sense.
     
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    I'm using this one for desktop for now ... it's rather standard, but does show that Delpo really, really loves to win ... so will probably do a lot more winning! :)

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    p.s. Love your new ava!!! :D
     
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  14. Yeah, it makes sense, he was good except for being Borg's punching bag. He definitely deserved the his 2 non-AO slams. Agreed.

    But his winning AO is like DelPo winning Serbian Open. :) No wait, it's like DelPo winning Serbian Open with Djokovic and Tipsarevic having mono :lol:
     
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    LOL very true. I guess Vilas is just hard to evaluate in a way. It will be interesting to see if Del Potro wins atleast 1 slam next year. If he does he is well on his way to surpassing Vilas I would agree.
     
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  16. He is (one of) a favorite for the HCs next year. French, who knows, ...he has a chance there too, I guess. I would kill to see DP-Nadal and Djoko-Fed semis at RG2010.
     
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    I think an encounter between Murray and Del Potro at the AO would be very interesting. I mean, at the moment Murray has his number on hard court.
     
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    Agentina welcomes Juan home

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    Receiving a commemorative plaque from Pres of Argentina's Tennis Assn
     
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    Of course we love him forever! More if he wins DC next year with Nalby.:)

    I still think that he should have skipped the Masters last year to be in full health for the DC final
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    I am a fan of women's tennis first and foremost (can anyone tell??) but I can now say I have a favorite male player...I love it when people say "You can't"and someone goes out and proves them wrong!
    This is just the beginning, I think, for Juan Martin. Many more great things coming!!!
    Coincidentally (?) the same issue of TENNIS magazine that featured Roger on the cover as the GOAT (and deservedly so) has a nice piece on Juan Martin's inside-in forehand, which he used to such devastating effect the last two weeks.
    I love the idea for this thread. Now we who were never all that crazy about Roger or Nadal have a place to go...
     
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    Delpo is essentially 21. For him to win 3 more slams is not unlikely, especially considering that only one US Open champion over the past 30 years failed to win more than one slam (Roddick).

    Remember, he was very close at the French this year, and he's a lot better now than then. That reminds me, where are all the Fed haters who said he only beat nobodies to win the French title? Does anyone now think that prime Sampras could beat prime Delpo on clay? Didn't think so.
     
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    To add to that, Roddick only managed to win 4 MS in his career. He's a hype job.
     
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    I thought that Nalbandian didn't mind Delpo not playing DC b/c Nalbandian wanted all the glory for their expected win over Spain w/o Rafa in the final...guess that didn't work out too well.

    BTW, any word on whether Nalbandian has congratulated Delpo? Maybe this will motivate him to actually work hard, since no one cares about him anymore in Argentina as top banana.
     
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    Roddick's not a hype job. His overall legacy of accomplishments is similar to Chang's...good, but not great.
     
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    Only 4 Masters titles. What a ridiculous statement. That is double the Masters titles that Rafter and Kafelnikov have won combined.
     
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    Del Potro at this years French would have destroyed any Sampras on clay. Federer did have a tough draw at this years French. Monfils, Del Potro, and an on fire Soderling in the last 3 rounds. Monfils is going to make many semis at the French and eventually alteast a final. Del Potro will win the French someday and make many semis and finals. Soderling who knows, but I suspect he is going to be in the top 10 for awhile and do well on all surfaces.
     
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    Chang was miles better on clay than that chap.
     
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    Roddick was miles better on grass than Chang, and better on grass than Chang is on clay despite that Chang won a lucky French once. Chang on grass is about equally hopeless to Roddick on clay.
     
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    Del Potro couldn't even win against a slumping Federer at this years French Open, he has no chance of winning RG next year with Nadal, Federer and Djokovic all clearly superior on clay to him. Federer didn't have a tough draw at this years French Open, he was just playing so bad he mad it look tough, I mean the only match he played well in was the final against a clearly nervous Soderling.
     
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    Well, Chang's French wasn't lucky -- remember that he made another French final in his career. A major title where you beat prime Lendl, prime Edberg and giving Sampras 3 breadsticks (a year prior to his first major) isn't lucky.

    But yes, Chang on grass wasn't that great, although he at least made a Wimbledon QF once (lost to Sampras in 94).
     
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    Off topic!!!
     
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    Laughable. Fed's draw was a lot tougher than Sampras' French draws in 95 and 97 for starters.

    Delpo has a good chance at the French, although Rafa has to be the favorite. Rafa may need Fed to beat Delpo in order to win the French, though.
     
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    Sorry, i will quit. :(
     
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    Slumping Federer. The same Federer who won Madrid, the French Open, and Wimbledon all in a row around that time. Yeah that makes alot of sense.

    Del Potro has a real shot to win the French next year. The way he is manhandling Rafa on hard courts, unless Rafas form improves greatly (which it definitely could since he is really off base now) he would have a hard time beating Del Potro even on clay. The high balls wont bother Del Potro at all, if Del Potro keeps going like he is now he will be very scary for Rafa to play on clay, especialy as it isnt certain if Rafa will ever get back to his 08 level again or not. He nearly beat Federer at this years French and just beat him on Federers favorite surface. Of course he can beat Federer. Djokovic is stagnant and being passed by. Del Potro is simply a better player than Djokovic right now and next time they play will probably win whether it be on hard courts, indoors, or clay.
     
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    Delpo should win the sportsmanship award this year; I'd like to see him or Nadal win it.
     
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    How about in the masters in london later this year?

    anybody know what surface that w/b on?
     
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    I assume it will be on a fast HC. Murray's favorite! :twisted:
     
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    I still love you, random guy.
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    what's your assessment of the fact that Delpo won ?both of? his DC matches @ Czech Republic, but the team let HIM down and lost overall?

    This is the case where delpo did his part but the team still did not win, proving once again, that it takes an ENTIRE team to win the DC! :D
     
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    Federer was a nervous wreck all French Open and even more so when Nadal got knocked out early, he was 5-1 down in the third set against Acasuso, a set down to Mathieu and was 2 sets down to Haas.

    The answer to your other point, Del Potro aint got a whole lot got going for him against Nadal on clay, his serve becomes less effective, his groundstrokes become less pentrating, Nadal groundstrokes are more effective and Nadal's defence becomes better. Fully fit Nadal will have no problems with Del Potro on clay.
     
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    In that case, I'll certainly be looking forward to their possible matchup @ TMC 2009 ... will you?!?! :) :D :twisted:
     
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    I hope he beats Murray twice at the TMC :).
     
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    Time will tell I guess. Alot of it depends if Nadal returns to 100%. You seem to disregard the possability he may have already lost a bit of speed or something with his latest injuries, and that he is becoming even more injury prone and it wont be easy to be fully fit again.
     
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    Rafa's high balls don't bother Delpo, and they wouldn't on clay either. Delpo was spinning in 1st serves and still beating Fed from the baseline; he could do the same to Rafa. Plus Delpo has beaten Rafa 3 straight times, and did better in the French last year than Rafa.

    Rafa is slight favorite over Delpo on clay, but its only slight.
     
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    Roddick is much better then Chang. Change made 2 slams finals, Andy 5. also Andy has one of the biggest serves on the planet, Chang's weapon was his legs.
     
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    First of all, Chang made 4 slam finals, not 2 (89 and 95 French, 96 Aus, 96 US). Secondly, Chang has more MS titles (7 vs. 4), including the most Indian Wells Masters in history (tied with Fed at 3 each).

    Roddick has had a slightly better career, but their overall achievements are very similar.

    On the subject of Delpo, I don't think he'll become like Roddick, b/c he's already won a slam without having to dodge players he has bad records against (Roddick won in 03 without having to face Federer or Agassi, both of whom owned him, while Delpo confronted Rafa and Fed and beat both). Therefore, when he meets them in future slams, he should be able to beat them there as well.
     
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    Well Del Potro didnt play Murray or Djokovic at this years U.S Open. His head to head with Djokovic is a fluke though as all matches were before the new Del Potro and I doubt he will have much problem with Djokovic in the future. Murray could be a trickier proposition, but it is kind of early to tell as they have only played 2 matches since Del Potro reached the next level.
     
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    I am not ready to join a Appreciation thread for him, I am most concerned how he will react to this GS win :cry: I am happy he won his 1st GS don't get me wrong :) but after Novaks 1st GS win and nothing since :roll: I hope he can back up this great win :|
     
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    like i have said it was his GAMEPLAN to take pace off his serve, he wasnt only spinning it, he was aiming Federer body and almost all his serves were high kick serves Federer BACKHAND... so he wasnt only spinning it in. trust me he doesnt do it anymore, against Federer it was exception because his backhand return is so weak.
     
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    Anybody who beats Roger or Rafa for a Grand Slam title gets my respect! :)
     
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