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  1. Boricua

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    Congratulations! You have made some great changes to your life. The last step will be to implement a juicing plan. I am firmly convinced that juicing is the final key to giving you a radiant, energetic life, and truly optimal health.
    I've said this in the other levels of this nutrition plan, but it's so important I'll say it again - valuable and sensitive micronutrients become damaged when you heat foods.
    Cooking and processing food destroys these micronutrients by altering their shape and chemical composition. In this advanced nutritional level, you avoid all processed foods and eat only organic vegetables and fruits, unless not otherwise possible.
    Virtually every health authority recommends that we get 6-8 servings of vegetables and fruits per day and very few of us actually get that. Juicing is an easy way to virtually guarantee that you will reach your daily target for vegetables.
    While you can certainly juice fruits, if you are overweight, have high blood pressure, diabetes or high cholesterol it is best to limit using fruits until you normalize these conditions.
    The exception would be lemons and limes which have virtually none of the offending sugar, fructose, that causes most of the metabolic complications. Additionally lemons or limes are amazing at eliminating the bitter taste of the dark deep leafy green vegetables that provide most of the benefits of juicing.
    Reasons to Juice
    There are three main reasons why you will want to consider incorporating vegetable juicing into your optimal health program:

    Juicing helps you absorb all the nutrients from the vegetables. This is important because most of us have impaired digestion as a result of making less-than-optimal food choices over many years. This limits your body's ability to absorb all the nutrients from the vegetables. Juicing will help to "pre-digest" them for you, so you will receive most of the nutrition, rather than having it go down the toilet.
    Juicing allows you to consume an optimal amount of vegetables in an efficient manner. If you are a carb type, you should eat one pound of raw vegetables per 50 pounds of body weight per day. Some people may find eating that many vegetables difficult, but it can be easily accomplished with a quick glass of vegetable juice.
    You can add a wider variety of vegetables in your diet. Many people eat the same vegetable salads every day. This violates the principle of regular food rotation and increases your chance of developing an allergy to a certain food. But with juicing, you can juice a wide variety of vegetables that you may not normally enjoy eating whole.
    If you are new to juicing, I recommend a mid-priced juicer. The cheap centrifugal juicers (like the Juiceman) break easily, produce low quality juice, and are very loud, which may contribute to hearing loss. They also don't last very long.
    My favorite are the single gear juicers which are relatively fast, less expensive and easier to clean than more expensive juicers like twin gears or even the $2000 Norwalk juicers. Here is my current favorite products.mercola.com/juicer
    Many people initially think that juicing will be a real chore, but the majority are pleasantly surprised to find that it is much easier than they thought it would be.
    Vegetable Juice is Not a Complete Meal
    It is important to note that vegetable juice has very little protein and virtually no fat so by itself it is not really a complete food. It really should be used in addition to your regular meals not in place of it.
    So unless you are undergoing some special fasting or detoxification program it is probably unwise to use juicing as a meal replacement. Ideally it can be consumed with your meal or as a between meal snack.
    Important to Listen to Your Body
    This is partly because you should only start by juicing vegetables that you enjoy eating non-juiced. The juice should taste pleasant -- not make you feel nauseous.
    It is very important to listen to your body when juicing. Your stomach should feel good all morning long. If it is churning or growling or generally making its presence known, you probably juiced something you should not be eating. Personally, I've noticed that I can't juice large amounts of cabbage, but if I spread it out, I do fine.

    The health benefits of juicing are immense for adults and children.

    Here are a few simple lessons to get you up and juicing quickly:
    Lesson 1: Use pesticide free veggies.
    It is wise to choose organic whenever possible. However, some vegetables are worse than others. Below are the vegetables that are the most pesticide loaded ones according to the Environmental Working Group.
    So it would be wise to only purchase these vegetables if they are organically grown. The worst ones are listed first.
    Celery
    Spinach
    Kale
    Collard Greens
    Lettuce
    Carrots
    Cucumber (not as bad if you peel the skin)
    Lesson 2: Get ready to juice!
    Please note that the order listed below is only intended for those that are new to juicing so you do have a pleasant experience with it. However, if you use ¼ to ½ lemon or lime to the juice you can start experimenting with the more bitter greens early on as the lemon and lime effectively counter their bitterness.
    Please note it would be FAR better to use lemon or limes than carrots, beets or apples, which have far more fructose than lemons or limes.
    Step 1: If you are new to juicing, I recommend starting out with these vegetables, as they are the easiest to digest and tolerate:
    Celery
    Fennel (anise)
    Cucumbers
    These three aren't as nutrient dense as the dark green vegetables. Once you get used to the 3 vegetables listed above, you can start adding the more nutritionally valuable, but less palatable, vegetables into your juice.
    Step 2: When you've acclimatized yourself to juicing, you can start adding these vegetables:
    Red leaf lettuce
    Green Leaf lettuce
    Romaine lettuce
    Endive
    Escarole
    Spinach
    Step 3: After you're used to these, then go to the next step:
    Cabbage
    Chinese Cabbage
    Bok Choy
    An interesting side note: Cabbage juice is one of the most healing nutrients for ulcer repair as it is a huge source of vitamin U.
    Step 4: When you're ready, move on to adding herbs to your juicing. Herbs also make wonderful combinations, and here are two that work exceptionally well:
    Parsley
    Cilantro
    You need to be cautious with cilantro, as many cannot tolerate it well. If you are new to juicing, hold off on the cilantro. These are more challenging to consume, but they are highly beneficial.
     
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    Step 5: The last step: Only use one or two of these leaves, as they are very bitter:
    Kale
    Collard Greens
    Dandelion Greens
    Mustard Greens (bitter)
    When purchasing collard greens, find a store that sells the leaves still attached to the main stalk. If they are cut off, the vegetable rapidly loses many of its valuable nutrients.
    Lesson 3: Make your juice taste great.
    If you would like to make your juice taste a bit more palatable, especially in the beginning, you can add these elements:
    Lemons and Limes: You can also add a quarter to half a lemon a lime (leaving much of the white rind on).
    Cranberries: You can also add some cranberries if you enjoy them. Researchers have discovered that cranberries have five times the antioxidant content of broccoli, which means they may protect against cancer, stroke and heart disease. In addition, they are chock-full of phytonutrients, and can help women avoid urinary tract infections. Limit the cranberries to about 4 ounces per pint of juice.
    Fresh ginger: This is an excellent addition if you can tolerate it. It gives your juice a little "kick"! And, as an added boon, researchers have found that ginger can have dramatic effects on cardiovascular health, including preventing atherosclerosis, lowering cholesterol levels, and preventing the oxidation of low density lipoprotein (LDL).
    Lesson 4: Drink your vegetable juice right away, or store it very carefully.
    Juicing is a time-consuming process, so you'll probably be thinking to yourself, "I wonder if I can juice first thing in the morning, and then drink it later?" This is not a good idea. Vegetable juice is HIGHLY perishable so it's best to drink all of your juice immediately.
    However, if you're careful, you can store it for up to 24 hours with only moderate nutritional decline. This is really helpful if you are bringing your juice to work with you so you can consume it during the day.
    How to store your juice:
    Put your juice in a glass jar with an airtight lid and fill it to the very top. There should be a minimum amount of air in the jar as the oxygen in air (air is about 20 percent oxygen) will "oxidize" and damage the juice.
    Purchase a food vacuum pump like Food Saver with a Ball jar attachment. You can pour your juice into a pint jar and put the lid on and use the Food Saver to suck out the air in the jar to vacuum pack it. This will remove most of the oxygen that will damage the juice.
    Immediately store it in the fridge and consume it when you are ready. It is best to drink it as soon as possible and in any case within 24 hours of juicing.
    Most people juice in the morning, but if that does not work out well for your schedule, please feel free to choose whatever meal works best for your lifestyle.
    Lesson 5: Clean your juicer properly.
    We all know that if a juicer takes longer than 10 minutes to clean, we'll find excuses not to juice at all. I find that using an old toothbrush works well to clean any metal grater. If you buy a high-quality juicer, the whole process should only take about 5 minutes.
    Whatever you do, you need to clean your juicer immediately after you juice to prevent any remnants from contaminating the juicer with mold growth.
    NOTE: Nutritional Typing and Juicing
    According to Nutritional Typing principles, if you are a carb type, vegetable juicing is STRONGLY recommended. With patients in our clinic, we strongly encourage it if they expect to regain their health. If you are a mixed type, it is certainly useful to juice. However, protein types need to follow some specific guidelines to make it work for them.
    Protein Types and Juicing
    If you are a protein type, juicing needs to be done cautiously. Celery, spinach, asparagus, string beans and cauliflower would be your best vegetables to juice. You can add some of the dark deep leafy greens like collards, kale, and dandelion greens but do so cautiously and pay careful attention to how you feel..
    You may also want to initially limit your serving size of juice to no more than 6 oz., and store it properly and drink smaller amounts throughout the day.
    Also, to make drinking vegetable juice compatible with protein type metabolism (which needs high amounts of fat), it is important to blend a source of raw fat into the juice. Raw cream, raw butter, raw eggs, avocado, coconut butter, or freshly ground flax seed are the sources of raw fat that we most recommend.
    In addition to adding a source of raw fat to your juice, you may also find that adding some, or even all, of the vegetable pulp into your juice helps to make drinking the juiced vegetables more satisfying.

    (Also, remember fruits like green apples, strawberries, pineapples and pears in the juicing experience.)

    Impressions?
     
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    Like any infommercial, plenty of mmercial, not much useful info. Isn't a large part of the benefit of vegetables the fiber in the pulp? This would seem to eliminate that.
     
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    Yes, but some people hardly eat vegetables. This is an alternative. Check out in Google or Youtube the documentary "Fat , Sick and Nearly Dead" from Joe Cross. I was impressed. It is a documentary about juicing, with three vivid examples. No infommercial there.
     
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    I have a Omega juicer that I bought about a year ago on an impulse. The thing is pretty awesome. The first month or so, I was making all sorts of (mostly vegetable) concoctions.

    Once the novelty wore off, I stopped using it. I need to start again. It's just a ten-minute pain to clean.
     
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    Count me in as one who was pleasantly surprised!!

    It's very easy and convenient.

    My impressions.

    If you peel cucumbers what much is left to juice?

    I just clean them and celery thoroughly. Also, should you soak them in cold water for a couple hours to freshen them up? Veggies from store tend to be kept dehydrated.

    I don't trust that you can juice much from leafy stuffs.

    I wonder if you can juice water melon minus the green outter skin. Water melon seems juicy.
     
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    ^^ Water melon is not so much juicy as watery; ever wonder where it got its name? And yes, juicing is an "alternative" to eating vegetables, but a far less healthy alternative because of the lost fiber (and other nutrients that may remain in the pulp).
     
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    This topic is not at all what I thought it was going to be about.
     
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    ^^ you thought Boricua was "juicing"??!! He seldom seems to make a move without getting the OK from the TW staff.
     
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    There are juicers today which pulverize even the pulp.

    Too much fiber is not good either.
     
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    Yeah. I try to behave on these boards.:)
     
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    LOl..this post was a mouthful so to speak! I have to say, that I started juicing last year. I became over the top for it...I still am but have suffered the winter blues and gone back to jamon serrano for the moment. But I do believe Juicing is the bomb! I not only lost some weight...but done correctly - my energy went through the roof. I teach tennis and my clients know when i have just juiced. I call it 'Goodness in a Glass'. I supplement fiber (not too much) in other ways. But God damn, cleaning it is annoying:-?
     
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    Exactly. I feel like, if I were retired or worked from home and weren't constantly on the go at the times I want juice (mornings, before workouts, etc.), I would do it every day. But alas.
     
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    I used to fear cleaning too but now I have done it many times I think it's really overestimated. I simply remove the extract container, pour all the extracted stuff into garbage can and rinse it along with the moving, filtering part and the cap. No need to soap anything as there's no greasy stuff. Don't know why people think it's hard.
     
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    Juicing may not be healthy, it may raise blood glucose levels very high which after repeated times is very damaging.

    I'd never do it. No.
     
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    Ollinger, any comment? I was once told by a doctor not to drink any fruit juice. There is a lot of money involved in that industry, so I am curious about whether the sugar content is too high in juices.

    What about vegetable juices?
     
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    I bought a little machine called the Nutribullet which is a cool little gadget, was not that expensive and is super easy to clean. Cmes with a recipe book. I use it to make vegetable and fruit juicesa but always add protein like yogurt and even crushed up nuts sometimes for fat. Makes me feel great!
     
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    You're saying cavemen got diabetes?
     
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    ^^ would generally agree, juicing can cause a large sugar load that the body can't handle well. And many of the nutrients your body needs to deal with that load remain in the pulp. The juicing thing makes no sense to me, plays on people's desire to have something they can consume on the run and still feel virtuous.
     
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    Olli you need to get yourself to a juice bar
     
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    What do you think about the Nutrabullet kind of juicer which pulverizes practically everything such that it passes through a filter? That will retain the pulp, no?
     
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    ^^ better, I imagine, but if you accept evolution then you probably feel that eating the whole thing likely has advantages. Even the banana peel has nutrients (tyramine, for example) not found in significant amounts in the banana. Eat the peel!!
     
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    Elephants eat bananas whole. But I think monkeys peel them. Can we digest the peel?
     
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    I would imagine those peels should be delicious and tasty.:shock:
     
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    Never mind the juicing, get with Dr O's (not to be confused with Dr. Oz, now being sued by a viewer who took his advice and went to sleep with socks filled with hot rice -- apparently to mask neuropathy pain -- and woke up with severe burns on his feet) "Sardine Diet". Have sardines as one meal a day. They have astonishing nutrient content and because they're at the bottom of the food chain and one of the smallest fish we consume, they are relatively free of contaminants like mercury. Tins of sardines (fresh ones are hard to find and inconvenient for an office lunch) come in a variety of flavored oils, such as garlic, mustard, spicy spanish, and others.
     
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    Really? That's pretty interesting. I may have to check this out.
     
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    ^^ I keep tins of sardines in my desk, also find that they leave me not terribly hungry for anything else after I eat them. Be sure to get the skinless and boneless filets, though the bones in the whole sardine are fairly soft and edible, some very motivated women I know get the whole sardine and eat them for the calcium.
     
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    Done..thanks for the idea.
     
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    YES! My cousin is a cardiologist and he says sardine and salmon (Omega 3) are great. Sardines are a great source of protein according to my cousin. They have nice flavor too.:)
     
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    Back in the late 60s we would smoke the dried banana peel instead (prompted by the Berkeley Barb hoax of '67). They call me "Mellow Yellow".

    Thanks for this suggestion. I've been eating them 2-3x/week. I might just up my intake. The varieties with skin & bones don't bother me at all -- they have up to 4x the calcium of the skinless, boneless varieties. Some of the flavored supermarket brands are not all that tasty tho' -- it seems that the quality of the sardines themselves in those supermarket brands is not that high (at least taste-wise). I don't recall if was the flavored Chicken of the Sea or Bumble Bee sardines that I did not care for.

    Some sardine brands that I really enjoy are: BELA-Olhão, Trader Joes, and Crown Prince. Disappointed that TJs no longer carries BELA-Olhão but their own Light Smoked Sardines in Olive Oil and their Skinless & Boneless Sardines in Olive Oil are both quite good.
     
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    ^^ King Oscar and Season brand are in the grocery store I frequent, but Trader Joe is everywhere lately so I'll have to check his out.
     
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    Trader Joe is not a real man, you know :)
     
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    Mellow Yellow. That is funny. Like to see you playin a singles match on those conditions, Mellow Yellow.lol
     
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    I like sardines for a snack.

    But once I mixed the sardines with smoked baby clams and got an upset stomach for hours.
    Tried the combination again and the same result. :confused:
     
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    There was a time that I ate canned sardines almost everyday for 2 years. We got creative by adding onion, tomatos and chillies. I can only eat canned sardines as the bones are soften. I still like them on hot white rice.

    No more canned stuffs these days. We eat halibut, sole, king mackerel which cost like 10x more but not really as enjoyable.
     
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    I've had my own experience with eating too much salmon. Bought several hundred dollars worth of frozen wild BC sashimi grade fish, thinking the stuff from Canada was lower in murcury content.
    Then I set about eating .5-.75 pounds of it every day (dinner and lunch). At the same time i was taking (NOT molecularly distilled) Norwegian Codliver oil. After about ~18 days I started getting pains in my arms and legs. then ~22 days in the cramps were getting worse and i started forgetting simple words. Then one day in the shower i woke up and couldnt get out of bed i had lancing pains in my neck so painful i couldn't get up for about 30 hours. Cutting the fish and the pain slowly disappeared.

    My doctor told me that he had a patient who had mercury poisoning from daily eating too much canned tuna fish.

    Also reminds me of Jeremy Piven, who was in the news a few years ago having to back out of a play, as he was suffering from mercury poisoning just like me from eating so much raw sushi and got mercury poisoning. Nobody believed him in the media... well except me... :)

    I'm curious how pacific sardines compare in ppm vs pacific salmon.
     
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    I never actually smoked banana peels. But some did back then. Did try catnip tho'.

    Went to pick up some sardines from TJs yesterday. Got the TJs lightly smoked version with skin/bones. The particular TJs store that I went to was out of the skinless, boneless variety. They did not expect any more until August. If you find any in the TJs in your area you might want to stock up on it since it may become unavailable until the end of Summer. Give the smoked version in olive oil (with skin/bones) a try. You might like it. Some ppl also like their sardines with a squeeze of lemon.

    Some years back, TJs carried a brand that had very small sardines in a fish (salmon) oil. It may have been a King Oscar product. Not been able to find this anywhere lately. Have you seen it?
     
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    I really like the King Oscar brand (with bones & all), especially the Mediterranean style. Even though they have bones, they are totally soft and I don't notice them at all. Man those are tasty...
     
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    Even better than juicing...try just eating the fruits and vegetables themselves directly. You will get all the benefits shown in the original post times 10!
     
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    Just received am email reply from a King Oscar rep. Sadly, their sardines in salmon oil product has not been available for some years now. No plans to bring it back in the near future. 'tis a shame -- 'twas very tasty and probably had higher levels of DHA/EPA. Anyone know if some other sardine brand uses salmon oil?

    Just tried the sardines in mustard sauce from Bruswick. While it was better than a similar product from Chicken on the Sea (or was it Bumble Bee?), it was not as good as the sardines in olive oil from BELA-Olhão or TJ's.
     
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    You need juice?? Squeeze the sardines.
     
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    Actually eating fruits and veggies is much harder than most people think. That's why most people are fat and resorting to drinking juice to get it over with.

    I actually buy a lot of fruits for my family but about 30% always go rotten. Eating them is like doing chores.
     
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    Put me down for King Oscar Mediterranean. I dump them in a bowl and add a few spoonfuls of hummus. Sometimes on sprouted grain toast and sometimes not.

    Power food. And so quick.
     
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    eat clen.
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    Juicing?

    Been there, done that!

    You expect the world and then after awhile you realize it really does not make any difference.

    And yes, juice has a lot of sugar.

    It's funny, responsible parents don't want to give soda to their children but then they give them apple juice.
    Want to guess which one has more sugar? :)
     
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    Lately, my juicing process is to juice those that I've hard time consuming directly...
    leafy greens
    watermelon rinds
    Also, celery/apple/ginger juice (to replace gatorade like drinks)

    Regarding blending, I try to do with a banana/melon/flax-seed for pre/post workout/tennis
    (trying to go easy on protein powders after listening to Robert Morse)
     
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  50. sureshs

    sureshs Bionic Poster

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    A doctor told me never to drink orange juice because of the sugar. Why do people think these juices are healthy? Hint: how big is the industry?
     
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