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  1. LeeD

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    I refuse to stop at a stop sign just because it's a stop sign. I am right, there is not other possible alternative.
    I don't care if people say I can't fly with my arms. I WILL fly no matter what, just watch me.
    All those 30+ guys are still playing basketball, so their knees are just as good as when they were in their teens. See all those guys dunking and skying to block shots? NO? What do you mean NO? Well just yesterday, I saw Lebron sky to the max.

    But yesterday, he's thinking of dropping out of the dunk contest because that gruelling event is hard on his knees!
    I refuse to see anyone's way, so I will shut my eyes tight and tell myself...I AM RIGHTl, YOU ARE WRONG...:shock:
     
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  2. SuperDuy

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    All those sports which involve all those jumping jarring, will kill your knees in the end. Running too much doesnt help either(on hard pavement)
     
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  3. yellowoctopus

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    ehm...gee, I'm not sure if an apology (from me) would be appropriate here or would even suffice.

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    How about? I acknowledge your prerogative and respect your rights to express yourself however you wish. I really do.
     
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  4. SystemicAnomaly

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    How old are you? You seem to be a bit blind to this.

    I personally know quite a lot of athletes over 50 who have various issues with knees, shoulders, hip flexors, ankles and elbows. I would go so far as to say that a majority of elite athletes also suffer from overuse injuries later in life -- sometimes even before they reach 40. The human body was not really designed to play pro sports or any repetitive acitivity, day in and day out, without consequence.

    Joints and other body parts eventually just wear out. It's a fact of life.
     
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  5. yellowoctopus

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    Not sure why it should matter how old I am, unless you are judging my opinion based on my age alone.

    As mentioned before, I agree that people wear body parts down, some more than others. The point I am trying to interject is that it is simple-minded to assume that all athletes will end up with Arthritis when there are abundant of those who are not athletes with Arthritis as well as lots of athletes who don't have Arthritis. People are built differently; we also acquire different habits. These factors and others contribute to different outcomes of the extent of the wear and tear on the various body parts. We don't hear a lot from the older people, athletes or not, who don't have arthritis because, well, they have nothing to complain about. Perhaps if we open our eyes and start noticing these happy-go-lucky older men and women who are doing quite well at their golden age, one can look at the human body in a more positive manner.

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  6. LeeD

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    I like the idea of going full speed ahead, eyes wide CLOSED, ignore history totally, create your own future.....:shock::shock:
    "WHAT, you say I am not GOD? Well, I'll prove your wrong" !! :):)
     
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  7. yellowoctopus

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    Thanks, your sarcasm is duly noted :)

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    No it's your perspective and life experiences that I question.

    It's not just my experience but the experience of those around me who have engaged in more than just moderate participation in sports or exercise -- especially those who have done so for a more than 30 yrs. I've heard far too many stories of former pro athletes in tennis, baseball, football and other sports who had hip replacements or have experienced significant problems with shoulders, elbow, knees and other joints. I'll go out on a limb and say that a majority of elite athletes will eventually develop such problems.

    While moderate exercise or participation in sports may not produce much in the way of such problems, elite athletes are not immune to the toll that "excessive" exercise takes on the body. Sure, there are countermeasure that can be employed to minimize these damages.

    ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2378110/pdf/iowaorthj00002-0109.pdf


    "... However, people who participate in competitive sports as adolescents or young adults, or habitually engage in sports or vigorous exercise throughout life, appear to have an increased risk of developing asymtomatic osteophytes that are not associated with articular cartilage degeneration. Joint injury increases the risk of osteoarthritis, and sports that subject joints to repetitive high levels of impact and torsional loading increase the risk of joint injury and degeneration... "

    (Be sure to check out Table 1 on page 84 of the journal article above).
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  9. Clay lover

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    Lin Dan is a one of a kind player...Badminton is often about deception and consistency but this guy is just all-out attack, but with excellent court speed and defense to boot as well.

    To the guy who said LCW is on top but loses more to Lin Dan, the fact is that Lin Dan is simply an outright greater player than LCW, his lower ranking is due to the fact that chinese players usually plays the naitonal badminton league and only goes out for important tournies, thus less points.
     
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  10. yellowoctopus

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    I believe I have adequate life experience and as much informed perspective as the person next to me.

    Very educational and reputable source [sincere, no sarcasm here] Admittedly I just read the summary and conclusion and Table 1 per your advice. The key phrase used in the conclusion of this study that one must understand is 'increased risk'. The medical research community will never, could never, admit that every athletes, elite or not, will end up with Arthritis because they are working with a sample of data (people) in order to find the correlation that proves their hypothesis. They can only say that, based on the data analyzed in the study, if any of the listed risk factors is part of an average person's life, there is an increase chance of developing the adverse outcome in the study. There is no control, analytically speaking, for other confounding factors that both you and I have agreed (preventive, training, genetic, etc) and how they affect the outcomes.

    I am also having a difficult time understanding the inconsistency in the logic path of citing a scientific journal only to turn around and make a claim based on "the experience of those around me", which is certainly not an acceptable scientific methodology (inadequate sample, both size and representativeness).

    Apologies for nerding out on you and everyone here, I earn part of my income conducting medical research in an institution funded by a government ....sounds very suspicious..., not really :)

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  11. TourTenor

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    I have some fond memories of playing badminton when I was in college. This sport is a blast and gets you into shape. I remember playing often with a guy who was about 6'3" 225lbs and all muscle. The guys name was Carl Ekern, a linebacker for the then LA Rams and, was using badminton to stay in shape during the off-season ...
     
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