Having grown up on the traditional closed stance, flat forehand, I just could not get my head around the new forehand. Well went out this weekend hitting with my boy and tried out that extreme western forehand grip and all I can say is WOW!! It was like what an idiot I've been for not looking at it (like I felt in the 80's staying with my Snauwaert/Vitas while everyone went Prince). It is so much easier to generate spin while still hitting out, ball just dives in. Great for hitting aggressively.