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  1. eliza

    eliza Rookie

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    trolling a Friday night: you can play mini-golf. You cannot play mini-tennis...................TG!!!!

    How can you even compare golf with tennis? Tennis is so much better, period.
     
  2. Limpinhitter

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    They're both great, challenging, frustrating, addicting. I think it was Harry Truman who said that: "the greatest gift a man could have is a hobby that he loves, and the greatest curse is for that hobby to be golf." Only a golfer can truly appreciate the wisdom of that truth.
     
  3. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Check the list I posted on the previous page. Golf is just above Cheerleading in terms of how difficult it is.
     
  4. LeeD

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    Yes, any of you can stand on a shoulder of some giant, get tossed 20' upwards, do a double back with a single twist, and land on that guy's shoulders. And of course, we all can somersault at will, cartwheel, and smile at the same time.
     
  5. DjokovicForTheWin

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    You're missing the point. No one is questioning the absolute difficulty of any sport on that list, even billiards! The point is the relative difference. Look at where tennis is relative to golf. There's the rub.
     
  6. dozu

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    problem is the measuring standards are quite artificial.

    I can easily come up with 'dozu's difficulty scale' and put cheer leading on top.
     
  7. DjokovicForTheWin

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    You can, but you're a nobody. The list was compiled by ESPN and actual sports professionals. Therein lies the difference.
     
  8. dozu

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    I am the community court king.

    seriously though - ESPN? actual sports professionals? lol... like the ones who vote for the athlete of the year?

    don't take this the wrong way, but this is typical 'sheeple' mentality.
     
  9. DjokovicForTheWin

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    You're probably someone who would have LOL'd at Newton or Galileo too. There is such a thing as common sense and it can be quite rewarding to use it once in a while. One of them by the way was Brian Jordan.
     
  10. dozu

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    perhaps - it's my professional habit not to give too much weight to what is fed to the public.
     
  11. DjokovicForTheWin

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    You are the public. And you likely eat up whatever you are biased towards as well, just like the rest of the sheep. Many pro tennis players transition into golf after they stop playing tennis. Watch Nadal do it soon. The reverse does not occur. Forget your feelings, just examine the data ;)

    Golf would not even be considered a sport next to tennis.
     
  12. dozu

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    we r going in circles.

    got a golf swing to post? :)
     
  13. DjokovicForTheWin

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    No, but the first time I ever did play golf, it was one of those small 54 par things. I finished with something like 10 over par. Golf is not difficult at least for me, I just don't enjoy playing it. Doesn't mean I can become pro. But I can see how it would be easier to become a golf pro RELATIVE to tennis. Tennis is orders more difficult to become really good.
     
  14. DjokovicForTheWin

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    That being said, tennis is easier to play recreationally simply due to what suresh was saying before.
     
  15. sureshs

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    Of course you can play mini tennis. That is what Quickstart is.
     
  16. Limpinhitter

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    So, how's that working out for you? :p
     
  17. dozu

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    so you shot 10+ and golf is easy lol.

    interestingly enough, my first round of golf, I shot 10+ also, in my local par54 course.... but here is the problem - you tee off from those plastic mats that don't punish poor contacts... you tee off from real grass, that 10+ quickly becomes 20+, then you go on a regulation course where you have to drive the ball and hit long woods and irons, where things can go really wrong, much more wrong than teeing off from 60 yards away... that's another 10-15 strokes extra.... so you are now just another beginner hack who can't break 100.

    so you go to the range a bunch, play on the course a bunch, and finally you get under 100.... you practice some more and now you shoot 90, you think hey, I will be scratch golfer in another couple years.... wrong!

    the reduction in handi becomes exponentially more difficult the closer you get to even par.

    my point is 10+ from a par54 means almost NOTHING.

    assuming there are 1 million players trying to get to top 1000, then by definition it's EQUALLY difficult between anything... tennis, golf, cheer leading, poker, billiards.

    now they may require different degrees of athleticism, but that is a separate topic.
     
  18. 5263

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    So you agree that tennis is more challenging.
     
  19. DjokovicForTheWin

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    At the professional level yes. Golf is not even a sport compared to professional tennis. Recreationally however, I think tennis can be easier for the average joe to pickup.
     
  20. DjokovicForTheWin

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    There weren't plastic mats in my first time, it was real grass. I have also played on par 72 courses a couple of times. I was probably 15 to 20 over par on those. But you have to consider that those were the 2nd or 3rd times I ever picked up a golf club and were around 5 years apart each! I'd say that's pretty good for just picking up a club and start hitting de novo. Anyways whether it's good or not is not the point I'm making, I may have sucked. The point is after playing golf I saw that if I practiced like hell, took some lesson, I could get quite good at it. Sure probably not pro but pretty damn good. It's not a sport. It's like billiards. Tennis is on a whole different plane. You are right we are arguing in circles, you don't seem to understand my point. I'm not saying golf is inherently easy, I'm saying it's not a sport next to professional tennis. And that ESPN analysis confirmed my subjective experience.

    Your use of the word 'difficult' is ambiguous. I would say the athleticism required in some sports is part of said difficulty. Take a fat obese person, there is 0 chance he can play in the NBA or tennis. There is a chance he could play pro golf or billiards.
     
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  21. dozu

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    ok. let me define 'difficult', so we are on the same page.

    say there are 1 million players trying to become the top 1000 to be pro... so only the 1000 with the best combination of work ethic + natural talent + luck + financial backing, can get to the top... and that combination is what I call 'difficulty'.... therefore based on this definition, everything is equally difficult.

    the components maybe different for different sports, one of which may or may not be athleticism.
     
  22. DjokovicForTheWin

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    Therein lies the problem. It's really all a semantic argument isn't it. 'Difficulty' for me entails athletic ability.

    Better to make it objective by simply taking a sample of 1 million random average joes. My bet is that more of them would be golf pros than tennis pros.
     
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  23. eliza

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    Quickstart is a tool, not standing by itself...
     
  24. sureshs

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    LOL.................
     
  25. sureshs

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    I know. I was kidding. But nothing prevents you from playing it. People might look strangely at you, but you can make up some excuse.
     

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