k90-Two Hander

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  1. brayman9

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    today a man got in his new k90's in our pro shop. Then he asked me if i wanted to hit so he could try them out. I noticed though that he hit a two handed backhand. Something i thought didn't work well with such a small heavy frame. I could be wrong but does that seem odd off a racquet choice for a two hander. Thanks
     
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  2. nickb

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    The k90 can work with any style...past pro's used the PS85 with a 2 handed backhand. One of my hitting partners has a great 2HBH and uses the n90.
     
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  3. samrocksmyshire

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    i just busted out both my n90 and k90. i didn't notice the difference cause i have a 1 handed backhand. but my brother often uses both and he just said he actually prefers the shorter handle on the k90. weird, huh?
     
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  4. Rafa freak

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    Not a good idea.
     
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  5. brayman9

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    You mean a two hander with the k90
     
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  6. nickb

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    There is no reason why you cant hit a great 2HBH with the k90 if you have good technique.
     
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  7. jkonecne

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    Both Hewitt and Safin hit 2hbhs and use a small head.
     
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  8. Bottle Rocket

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    People can't hit a clean ball with a two-hander? Am I missing something?

    I'd really love for someone to explain the correlation between headsize and someones stroke style.
     
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  9. jmverdugo

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    Jo11yroger (a Tennis Talk member) have like 14 n90 and he hits pretty well his THBH.
     
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  10. boobik2371

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    i use the fxp prestige mid with a two hander i dont mind it
     
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  11. LafayetteHitter

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    I saw this guy Safin using a midsized Prestige hitting pretty decent two handed backhands the other day. It can be done...
    Seriously though, it's odd that so many people think a mid frame can only be used by one handers.
     
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  12. fgs

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    for players having decent technique, hitting a twohander with a midframe (any midframe) should be no problem whatsoever. 25-30 years ago i used to hit very decent twohanders with those tiny woodframes (donnay borg pro, slazenger challenge no.1) - so there is no correlation between frame size and twohanders. the only issue is technique, be it for a onehander or a twohander.
     
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  13. ChocolatePie

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    2 of the top players on my high school team use a n90 with a two-handed backhand. The singles 2 has a k95 and uses a two-handed backhand as well. All of these players are really good. Me though, I'm like doubles 3 on varsity xD
     
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  14. brayman9

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    ok thanks

    MYTH BUSTED:

    SMALL FRAME ONEHANDER ONLY NOT!!!
     
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  15. dave333

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    Whats the problem with 2 hander+small headsize?

    Or is it a short grip thingy?...
     
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  16. Klatu Verata Necktie

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    Could it be that the real giants of tennis tend to define technique and equipment in the minds of many tennis fans. For instance, Sampras used a small head size and a one handed backhand. Federer uses a small head size and a one handed backhand.

    The player who defined baseline play for me with a two handed backhand was Andre Agassi, and he used a large head size.

    For the record, I play with a K90 and use a two handed backhand. It needs some work, though ;) I have just as much success using the K90 as I do with my old Donnay Pro One Oversize.
     
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  17. quest01

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    Thats a great question because i have had trouble using the k90 with my two handed backhand. I demoed the k90 and the only aspect i hated was that i struggled more hitting my two handed backhand compared to other rackets i have used. I thought about buying this racket but decided not to because my struggles hitting a 2 handed backhand. The k90 in my opinion seems like the kind of racket suited towards people with a one handed backhand because of the small headsize. It just feels odd using a two hander with that small of a headsize. However the best aspect i found with the k90 was approach shots and especially volleys. Also my backhand slice was superb with the k90.
     
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  18. Mad iX

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    There's no real reason why a K90 or any other mid would be unsuitable for a 2hbh. It's just preference.
     
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  19. Roger_federer

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    I am thinking of getting a K90 or RDS 001 to and I am a two hander. More people please give your opinions. This is a great thread.
     
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  20. Autumnleaf

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    I Don't think that the size of the frame would be an issue. But the size of the grip maybe
     
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  21. brayman9

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    Finnaly I made a thread that people actualy liked:p
     
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  22. Shashwat

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    I was using the PS 85 yesterday. I hit clean 2hbh winners. And a ton of passing shots.
     
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  23. guedoguedo

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    I hit with a d1 college player who uses the prestige tour mid and has an absolutely nasty and explosive 2hbh.
     
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  24. [K]aotic

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    well he IS D1... he should have a nasty explosive backhand. haha :)
     
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  25. leonardtay

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    I find that the shorter pallet bothers me as my left hand on a two handed backhand tends to overlap onto the end edge of the leather grip... having said that I use a one handed backhand, was just fooling around with the 2hbh the other day.
     
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  26. iplaybetter

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    just look at jolly, but i have seen plenty of 2hb with them, and a friend uses the n90 and hits a two
     
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  27. bcast66

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    i actually like small heavy frames for my 2hb. if i use anything above 95inches i get a really weird feeling, cant explain it just doesent do the job. the 93 below are my sweetspot.
     
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  28. Robert Johnson

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    Had my K90's for a month or so and my two hander feels perfect with it. I came from a PS Classic 95 and had the same doubts as you, but a few hits in and i felt i was hitting better than the 95. I also used the one handed slice a lot more with this frame for some reason - mixing up the slice and the big two hander has really improved that side of my game.

    Guess the best thing is to demo and see if its for you or not.

    GL
     
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  29. roddick89

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    It might look a little strange just cos were used to seeing Fed rip his one hander with the k90 (or at least a pj k90) but i dont see why you wouldnt be able to hit a good 2HBH with a smaller head and like someone said before, Safin who has an amazing two hander, uses a mid size head.
     
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  30. quest01

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    There is no reason why someone couldn't hit a decent 2 hander with the K90 but its a lot easier hitting a two hander with a midplus.

    From personal experience my 2 hander was not as good with the K90 compared to midplus racquets.
     
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  31. Djokovicfan4life

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    My 13 year old brother uses a two-hander with a K90 with solid results.
     
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  32. KFactor27

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    I've seen people use a K90 for a 2hbh with solid results. The 1hbh looks 10X better with it but it still works fine.
     
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  33. ChocolatePie

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    The n90 I have no problem hitting two handers with. The K90 I have a little more trouble though.
     
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  34. soggyramen

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    i have 2 prostaff tour 90's and i use a two hander and i still hit fine.
     
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  35. julianoz

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    Why do you think that is? Just curious
     
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  36. 80'stennis

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    A 2HBH with the K90 is not a problem for me. But I do have medium sized hands and keep them close together gripwise. I know that some people spread their hands pretty far apart on their 2-handers (think Roddick), so the shorter grip on the K90 (vs N90) might pose a problem for some.

    I prefer the swing of a midsize head. I like the way smaller heads cut through the air. And my 2-hander doesn't suffer for it. In fact I even like hitting my 2-hander better with the PS85. But this is for my game. We all like different feels, which is why as many have suggested you just have to demo.
     
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  37. J011yroger

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    The shorter pallet bothered me for about a week, until I built up callouses where the grip was different, and now I don't even notice.

    I thought I was going to need to have custom handles molded, but now I play fine. I wrap my overgrip up to the bottom of the yoke, and for some shots part of my top hand is off the pallet but it doesn't bother me enough to justify spending the money.

    J
     
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  38. NoBadMojo

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    The issue w. this frame <and frames like it> isnt one hand or two...it's all about swing paths and grips. This frame doesnt work all that well <even with many advanced players> for people who have abrupt swing paths and extreme grips. There can always be the occassional exception and the usual reverseness of racquet selection applies.
     
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  39. Voltron

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    I don't understand....:confused:
     
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  40. Robert Johnson

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    Jolly you've just jogged my memory reading that. I remember the second time i went out with it i ended up with blood all over my K90 and left hand (im right handed). I must of adapted my grip which in turn rubbed the inside of my index finger to the point of drawing blood.



    No probs now though - worth the loss of blood:)
     
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  41. J011yroger

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    Yea on me it tore up my ring finger on the side that faces my middle finger.

    I spread my hands for flat and bunch them for top.

    Will try to find a pic of how I wrap my grips.

    J
     
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  42. saqdeez

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    jollyroger, it looks like you took your videos down. Do you have one available so i can see some 2hbh/groundstrokes with the k? And dont tell me to wait until spring or i will be very upset!!
     
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  43. J011yroger

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    I took the 07 vids down, because I will start putting up 08 vids soon.

    I plan to be outdoors starting next week, so you won't have to wait very long.

    Don't have anything of me on video since I switched to the K Switched 01-01-08 Right after the U.S. Indoor Nats.

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  44. J011yroger

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    Quick shot of grip wrapping from my hotel room.

    [​IMG]

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  45. quest01

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    Wow, that overgrip is high.
     
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  46. bcast66

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    lol i do the same thing with my prestiges hahaha.
     
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  47. string70

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    How can a racket make a backhand look 10x better. Oy Vey.
     
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  48. [K]aotic

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    You should have gotten the black super six. Looks way better because its what i have. :cool:
     
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  49. 80'stennis

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    J--
    I'm around here so I'm sure you've talked a lot about it before, but just curious where your n-codes fit into the picture. Do you play them still? Can you give a couple sentence comparison between your n90s and k90s? Thinking about getting an n90, which I've never played. (I have some k90s and some ps85s.) Thanks!
     
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  50. J011yroger

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    I have given away most of my N90s.

    From a performance/playing standpoint, they are very very similar.

    If I had 20 brand new identical N90s (Or could get them for decent deal) I wouldn't have switched.

    But since my stock N90s were so far apart spec wise, and they were starting to flex out, I switched on 1-1-08.

    The N has a more consistient stringbed, the K has a hotter one.

    The K has more bite, and comes around faster.

    The K has more feel, the N is more muted.

    The K has more sting/packs more of a wallop. (Probably exagerated because my N90s were flexing out.)

    I strung my N90s at 58 and I thought that was perfect for them. Played the Ks at 58 for two months and 58 was too lose, so went to 60, been playing 60 for about 3 weeks and will go to 62 on my next batch which should be perfect.

    All frames strung on a star 5.

    I wrote some other stuff, will try to find my old quotes.

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