Kei Nishikori

Discussion in 'General Pro Player Discussion' started by tennisfanireland94, Aug 12, 2012.

  1. tennisfanireland94

    tennisfanireland94 Rookie

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2010
    Messages:
    184
    Often not mentioned in these 'new generation' discussions but doing pretty well at the moment, in the top 20. Rafa once said he could be a top 5 player one day, I've followed his progress for quite a while and he's had a tough time with that year out injured so early in his career.

    However, while I'm happy he's finally progressing (some great results towards the back end of last year), i can't help but feel he will have to do something extra to go any further. He has great feel and groundstrokes but lacks a real weapon he can fall back on when he's having a bad day, as shown by some comprehensive losses to lower ranked players recently (Soeda and Querrey for example). Like the guy and he has a lot of skill but doesn't have the firepower right now to beat higher ranked players on a regular enough basis (Ferrer at USO a few years ago aside, and Novak last year).
     
    #1
  2. thejackal

    thejackal Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2004
    Messages:
    2,885
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    I mean, Ferrer has been around #5 forever now, so top 5 isn't TOTALLY out of question. But yes, he will have to add something to his game to be that consistently good. Doesn't have to be a monster serve or anything like that, but something significant tactically or mentally.
     
    #2
  3. JamieSafe

    JamieSafe Rookie

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2011
    Messages:
    128
    My favorite player of the new gen, he did have an impressive Olympics run

    If he adds some more finesse to his shots he can go top 10 easy
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2012
    #3
  4. Jonny S&V

    Jonny S&V Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,892
    Location:
    Northern MO
    His forehand is pretty lethal, not gonna lie. But his lack of a serve and backhand really hold him back overall...
     
    #4
  5. smoledman

    smoledman Legend

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2012
    Messages:
    5,409
    Location:
    USA
    Kei can definitely get to #5 one day.
     
    #5
  6. JTJet

    JTJet Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2012
    Messages:
    131
    Location:
    Canada
    His forehand racquet speed is good. I'm pretty sure he'll make it up there.
     
    #6
  7. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2012
    Messages:
    21
    I believe he can, he has beaten berdych twice, tsonga 3 times including this years AO, he would be top 10 imo if he didn't get inured for so long
     
    #7
  8. TeflonTom

    TeflonTom Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2012
    Messages:
    920
    the new paradorn srichaphan. lovable loser who ppl pay a lotta attention 2 mostly coz asians usually suck at tennis

    will have a solid pro career which is good coz he seems like a nice guy off the court. but lets not pretend hes gunna be winning masters and slams

    guy doesnt have the weapons to beat top 10 players consistently
     
    #8
  9. The Meat

    The Meat Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2012
    Messages:
    1,998
    At the pro level or junior level? All of the Asian junior players I know play extremely well.
     
    #9
  10. TeflonTom

    TeflonTom Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2012
    Messages:
    920
    pro level

    lotsa decent rec players / jr asian doods here in the us. dunno why they cant make the step up. mebbe its the shortness thing
     
    #10
  11. The Meat

    The Meat Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2012
    Messages:
    1,998
    You would expect a top ten pro player to show up in the Asia region, there are billions of people living there. 1/1,000,000,000 chance for a top ten player to pop up.
     
    #11
  12. Sabratha

    Sabratha G.O.A.T.

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2012
    Messages:
    12,073
    Location:
    Australia
    The kid does have potential.
     
    #12
  13. krz

    krz Professional

    Joined:
    May 23, 2007
    Messages:
    889
    Location:
    Concrete Jungle Where Dreams are Made
    To address the original topic. He's lacking a serve, it's tough on the mens tour without a decent serve.

    The Meat, you have to remember even though to population of Asian is high the tennis playing population is low compared to the rest of the world.

    Combination of the poverty in many Asian countries and the fact that Asian culture in general does not place as high a value on being an athlete.

    TeflonTom... [​IMG]
     
    #13
  14. iMpro

    iMpro New User

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2009
    Messages:
    91
    I've been watching clips of Kei online, IMO his serve may be lacking a bit but he has a pretty effective backhand. He knows how to create angles and generate some good pace. Definitely not the best BH on the tour, but not at the point where I'd say it is holding him back from being top 10. With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised to see him break through and I hope he does.
     
    #14
  15. Seany

    Seany Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2008
    Messages:
    1,445
    Is he better than Tsonga, Raonic, Tipsarevic, Berdych, Cillic, Delpotro?....I think number 5 in the world is a tad ambitious, perhaps a top 10'er if he really puts his mind to it.
     
    #15
  16. Walenty

    Walenty Professional

    Joined:
    May 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,146
    Keep in mind Kei is defending not only just a 1st round loss at Cincy, which he is still in, but a 1st round loss at the US Open as well. Another win or two at Cincy should get back into the top 16 for seeding at the Open, and then a good run to the second week there could put him close to top 10.

    Another note of interest is that Raonic is practically in the same spot as Kei--defending no points this part of the year. Should be interesting to see where these two land rankings-wise at the end of the year.
     
    #16
  17. Ripster

    Ripster Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Messages:
    2,238
    Nishikori has a ton of potential and is IMO one of the best players in the younger generation. His speed and ground strokes are very effective weapons. Some of you make it sound like he has no power - make no mistake his groundies are powerful and his backhand is a great shot (definitely not a weakness). If there is a weakness in his game it's his serve but in today's game you don't exactly need a monster serve to be at the top.
     
    #17
  18. iMpro

    iMpro New User

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2009
    Messages:
    91
    I'm right on with you here Ripster. Rafa, Murray, and even Djokovic don't have monster serves and they are among the best. Raonic, Nishikori, Tomic and Dimitrov will be around long after all the big guns have retired, I don't see why top 5 is too ambitious for Kei.
     
    #18
  19. Jonny S&V

    Jonny S&V Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,892
    Location:
    Northern MO
    Who said you needed a monster serve? Djoker, Murray, Fed, and even Nadal have great placement and variety (well, maybe not Nadal on the variety count). Nishikori doesn't.
     
    #19
  20. Ripster

    Ripster Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Messages:
    2,238
    That's what I'm saying, you don't need a monster serve. Nishikori can add placement and variety over time, he's still young.
     
    #20
  21. citybert

    citybert Professional

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2011
    Messages:
    907
    He should have retained Brad Gilbert, but maybe Gilbert declined to coach full time for him. I guess he can always go to Todd Martin with help on the serve, but it didn't work for Nole
     
    #21
  22. Demi-God

    Demi-God Banned

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2012
    Messages:
    10
    I believe this guy can win 1 slam, I really do, he is close to breaking into the top 10 also
     
    #22
  23. Jonny S&V

    Jonny S&V Hall of Fame

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    4,892
    Location:
    Northern MO
    Placement and variety are things that are also rather innate, I feel.
     
    #23
  24. aced_Tezuka

    aced_Tezuka Rookie

    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2012
    Messages:
    176
    I believe Kei will definitely break the top 10 and likely the top 5 one day. He's consistent and has a great forehand. And his other strokes are dependable but no extreme threat to others. But he has many years to develop his strokes and be a top 5 player. He also did pretty well in the Olympics and hopefully he'll do well in the USO too. Wishing him the best.
     
    #24

Share This Page