KFactor K6.1 95: what version is it?

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  1. Tennis Man

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    I just traded a racquet here on TT after a long absense and got this monster. It was supposed to be a brand new KFactor K6.1 95 (16x18 ). After inspecting it I noticed the following:

    * the print on one side says K 6.1 Tour
    * the actual string pattern 16 X 19 (not 16 X 18 )
    * the print inside the throat says:

    - string pattern 16 X 19
    - head size 90 sq in (although it's clearly 98 head)
    - weight 320 g (11.3)
    - balance 31.5 (8 pts HL)

    * the warranty sticker has no serial number on it
    * there is no Made in China sign anywhere on the racquet
    * the grommet pieces are sticking out at the throat
    * the paint finish is matte
    * the black plastic buttcap has no 3-letter code, just a red trap door
    * the grip is not Wilson True Grip but made of some cheap plastic

    WHAT IS IT?

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  2. Eric4

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    Looks like the knock off K-factors
     
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  3. Tennis Man

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    also the buttcap is not shiny plastic but black plastic with red square door with W on it. What is it supposed to be?
     
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  4. PimpMyGame

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    Doesn't look like the real thing. What's the grip size?
     
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  5. Tennis Man

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    it doesn't say it anywhere on the racquet but it is 4 1/4 as it.
     
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    hrmmm... that's a fakie from china perhaps?
     
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    It does not look real to me. For one there does not appear to be flanges where the neck meets the head. It does not look to be a 6.1 mold racquet.

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  8. Tennis Man

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    still, is there a possibility that it's real earlier Wilson Kfactor frame with some messed up PJ (just guessing).

    I got it for my GF and she loves it but I feel like I was screwed. I haven't talked to the seller about it yet.
     
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  9. hellojeffo

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    Just want to point out that it looks like a cross between a K61 Tour 90 and a K61 95....

    The profile is not really round, but it's not exactly rectangular.... (90/95 hybrid?)

    The Paint finishing is matt and not polished (90)

    The Head size "looks" like a 95

    The string pattern is 16 x 19, which is right...

    Weight of 320g is the Asian K factor 90 weight...

    Grip 4 1/4 is the most common fakie sized sticks (if not the only size)

    The Bumper guard looks shady to me....

    And the 9 oclock part of the hoop, is tooooooo thin for a k90 or k95...

    Last thing, all the K95 or K90 that i've seen, the original sticker is BELOW the Designed in USA print, rather than above...
     
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    thank for pointing this out. I would know the difference although it does look similar to my K90 in every way but the size :)

    The label is almost identical to this but balance is 31.5 (8 or 9 pts HL)

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    ok, if it is fake I never had one before. Will it play like a real one given that the string and swing weight feel just a bit lighter than K90. I would say it's just like the Asian versions of PS 90 that I traded for it.
     
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  12. the Town Sherif

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    dude...you've been faked out
     
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    It might play ok, but it definitely looks like you got a fakie...

    Some of the tell-tale signs are there: small (asian) grip size but not marked, wrong string pattern (for the headsize), wrong butt-cap; looks to be a fakie.
     
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  14. Tennis Man

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    Thanks to all. Whatever it is, it my first fake traded from a guy with no references on this board. I guess the first one for him will be coming soon.
     
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    where did u trade it? if u got it from the sell and trade section could we have his screen name? just to have everybody watch out and prevent other rip-offs like this one.
     
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    That's exactly what I will do as soon as I confirm his screen name and talk to the guy. I have to get to the bottom of it first.
     
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    How much do you think this fakey is worth? Should I reverse the trade and return it back.
     
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    If your GF loves it, and it's structurally sound, then you should consider dropping this. I know it's not nice being sold a pup but you have to weigh up stirring the hornet's nest vs your GF's happiness.
     
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  19. Tennis Man

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    I agree but there are 2 issues here:

    1. The trade was made based on the value of a brand new original KFactor 6.1 95 with all it's original specs (why I went for it in the first place). I traded my rare Asian PS 90 Tour for it.

    2. if the guy is a fraud. He will do the same to others.
     
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  20. Tennis Man

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    the reference is posted :(
     
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    hey tennis man, arent you the guy who started the huge thread about racket pics? nice to see you back. im pretty sure its a fake because compared to my k95 its nothing alike.
     
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    Thanks, I'm back ... to refresh my arsenal :)

    My first deal was a disaster. I guess I lost my caution and this marketplace is flooded with Chinese fakes now. Thank god I'm sticking to the classic frames. Has anyone seen a fake PS 85 yet?
     
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    BTW, as a side note to this thread; beware of this model racquet on the big auction site right now, as there are a bunch for sale that are probably questionable from a seller in China. The "buy it now" prices for brand new sticks is between $99 and $155. I wouldn't touch these myself.
     
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    I'm guessing thats fake. ...
     
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    Link please :)
     
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    170226683116, 170226688165, etc? It's hard to tell if it's the same without seeing the actual picture. The one I got is around 98 head and 16x19 pattern.
     
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    I fully agree, I also have two Ksix-One 95's and your racquet does not look anything like mine. Your racquet is a square beam, more like a K90.
     
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    Surely a fake

    It's like a k90 PJ over a k95? hehehe

    But the grommets, specs of the string patterns are all off.

    The racquet frame of a 95, string pattern of a 90, finish of a 95... la la la la la...

    fake. Sorry for being too frank
     
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    Oh dear God please forbid that from happening.... :-?
     
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  30. Tennis Man

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    Ok, what do you guys think I should do with this piece of s&*^t?

    1) sell/trade it a a fake (with full disclosure),

    2) keep it as a souvenir

    3) other?
     
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    send it to wilson so they can inspect and possibly find out where it came from and go after the factory.
     
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  32. the Town Sherif

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    posted it on the bay as a fake and if somebody still wants it they can purchase it....
     
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  33. Tennis Man

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    sounds like a donation :)

    No, I mean the racquet is graphite and plays like a lighter beginner frame. It still has some value, right? I'm out $140 on this deal. So maybe I can reimburse a portion of it.

    Oh, BTW, if anybody sees an Asian PS 90 (smooth, non-sandpaper paint, grip 4 1/2, still strung with grey Topspin Cyberflash) posted in Virginia, let us know.
     
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    I want to get in contact with these fake makers so I can get some of my PS85's painted like K90's :) I'd pay $99 a frame just for that.
     
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