kfactor player frames

Discussion in 'Racquets' started by cantstopme, Nov 30, 2006.

  1. cantstopme

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    Played with all four today and here is the skinny.....there will be 4 player frames released Jan 20. They are

    ksixone tour (90) fed and yea the long pallet is there and it is supposed to be exact rep of fed's....i hit with this and very different from previous tour 90's (more flex)

    three versions of 95......basically the 95 with 16X18 pattern same as ncode

    95 with 18X20 pattern

    95X which is the 16X18 pattern but one inch longer

    TEAM which is NPS version a lot lighter with 18X20 pattern.

    I'll bet my life everyone loves the 90.....very different from anything out there now.
     
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  2. Soundbyte

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    A flexier tour 90 sounds more like that infamous PS 6.0 90 that everyone is dying for.

    I'm an avid 6.0 85 user. If this new racket is a modern version (aka, slightly poor pop), then it could be easily be the best stick of the decade...
     
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  3. Dunlopkid

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    Thanks for the info.
     
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  4. str33t

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    woah, a 95X thats one inch longer. sounds strange.
     
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  5. SFrazeur

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    I like what I hear. Did they seem to have that muted nCode feel to them?
     
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  6. snoflewis

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    the 6.0 90 everyone is looking for isn't exactly flexy....the 6.0 85 is not really stiff (66 flex), so a flexier version of the n6.1 tour 90 would actually shy away from the "6.0 90" in terms of specs...however, it would be interesting to see how it feels and plays given the n6.1 tour 90 isn't really the traditional midsize player's frame
     
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  7. cantstopme

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    The 90 played different than any racket I've ever played with.....and yes I used the 85 pro staff for 8 years. The other 95's played just like Ncode versions.....i should say though, the 95X is only .5 in longer at 27.5 rather than the full inch I initially reported.
     
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  8. servelefty2233

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    I bet rafa's best friend will be ecstatic about the extra long 95.
     
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  9. sypl

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    Whoa, a whole inch longer? Don't see too many 28 inch frames nowadays...
     
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    specs?

    'the message you have entered is too short. please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters'
     
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    thanks for the info..so from you, and others now, i am actually speculating that this new kfactor racquet could actually be the same exact racquet as federer uses, as in string pattern and racquet mold, just his may have customized weight without the lead tape on it

    how'd you get your hands on the frames to hit with them? will they be released january 20 in the US?
     
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  12. LarougeNY

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    is it worth waiting for if your already bent on buying one of the ncode frames. I mean, how much could they change the specs in an updated model.
     
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  13. agfedsamp

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    thanks for the report

    so the 90, whats the string pattern? and does it have 4 crosses on pws things....and wait...you said the handle is long like the ncode version or is it like feds?

    thanks a lot for the info
     
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  14. TheSnowMan

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    From a picture from the other thread, you could tell that there were four strings on the PWS and there is a shorter pallet/grip, just like Federer's.

    The specs are the same, but I don't know about the flex.

    EDIT: People should stop making so many threads regarding the new Wilson rackets, just do a search and post it in one of the other threads.
     
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  15. WhiteSox05CA

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    What's the stiffness of the 95's

    Check out the original K-Factor thread to find out the specs of each.

    How did you demo these rackets "cantstopme?" And how would you compare the 95 (16x18) to the nSix-One?
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  16. Rafa's best friend

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    It looks as though the ex long 95 will have a Heavy swingweight. My perfect swingweight is about 310-323....:grin:
     
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    I like tennis.
     
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  18. Tour90

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    he probably works for a a tennis shop or something like it and the wilson reps come in with it and schedule a hitting session.
     
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  19. looseswing

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    So does this mean that TW will have them in on Jan. 20? Do you think we will be able to preorder, because this frame will probably have a huge demand.
     
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  20. BreakPoint

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    Thanks for the great report! :D

    BTW, you mean a shorter pallet, not "longer pallet", right? The pallet in the handle under the grip.

    BTW2, if you don't mind me asking but how did you get your hands on them so early?
     
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  21. VGP

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    I'm sure that K-factor 90 is a good racket......but I really, really, really can't get past the paintjob.
     
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  22. BreakPoint

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    Actually, although both the PS 6.0 85 and nSix-One Tour are both rated at 66 for stiffness, the PS 6.0 85 actually plays more flexy due to a flexier hoop (no HyperCarbon in there :D ). Thus, a "flexier version of the nSix-One Tour" would indeed be closer to the original PS 6.0 85 or the phantom, highly requested PS 6.0 90. :D
     
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  23. SFrazeur

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    I know waht you mean. If I like the open string pattern I'll get two racquets, and I'll paint at lest one of them. The Tour 90 was a racquet of beauty, the N90 was forgivable, but this one, eeh...
     
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  24. BreakPoint

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    Yes, I'd like to know that, too. Did the K-Factor 90 feel as muted as the nCode 90 or did it have more raw feel like the PS 6.0 85/95?
     
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  25. SFrazeur

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    Remember though, the earlier PS 85 were indeed stiffer, closer to 68-70.
     
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  26. BreakPoint

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    Who cares what the paintjob looks like if it makes you play exactly like Federer? ;) LOL
     
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  27. BreakPoint

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    But even the older ones felt flexier to me than the nCode 90 does.

    The nCode 90 is indeed flexier than the PS Tour 90, but the PS Tour 90 was much stiffer than the PS 6.0 85 IMHO.
     
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  28. SFrazeur

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    I know that feeling you are talking about, though.
     
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  29. snoflewis

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    like i said, in terms of specs...they're stiff...but i agree, they don't feel as stiff as say the n6.1 tour 90...
     
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  30. jakshemash

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    Please can you give a short playtest review on the K-six 1 Tour 90?
     
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  31. proracketeer

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    K-Factor 90 VS Aerogel 100 !!!
     
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  32. anirut

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    I like the Dunlop feel, but at 330 grams strung it's just a bit too light for a "top-of-the-line" frame. And what'd be the strung weight of the K?
     
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  33. tennisguy2121

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    I will likely see the new wilson racquets in the morning, if so ill let ya guys no if there is any new info.
     
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  34. BreakPoint

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    Probably the same as the nCode 90 or 12.5 oz. to 13.0 oz. depending on how the QC folks in the Wilson factory were feeling the day your racquet was made. ;) LOL
     
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  35. jakshemash

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    Breakpoint. Can you please descirbe what you mean by the feel of the Pro staff original. How does it feel.

    BY the way as 'Borat' would say ... 'Jakshemash'.
     
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  36. cantstopme

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    I got the chance to hit because I am the manager and head pro of an indoor tennis facility. The Wilson rep told me this frame was exact rep of Fed's...he also for the first time addmitted that the current ncode 90 obviousley is not. I have no idea if the weight...balance.....all that other stuff is same as fed's, but this one lookis identical with the longer throat or whatever it is called


    I cant really say I play tested it. The Wilson rep brought all four frames and I had like 30 minutes. I myself play with the 90 so I spent about 20 minutes with that. It is different, mark my words. Felt a bit muted like the ncodes but my racket history includes wood.....ps 85 and now the tour 90 lines...i fell in love with this model and I will stock up on frames.

    The interesting thing is I asked what Kfactor tech was and he said Wilson isn't telling even the reps what the technology acctualy is untill Fed debuts at Austrailian open. I have pictures from wilson add but I don't have a scanner. it has all of the specs, i'll see what I can do.
     
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  37. sypl

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    Man, wouldn't it be embarrassing for Wilson if Federer fell in the first round of the AO? Talk about a way to kill a multi-million dollar advertising campaign dead.
     
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  38. SFrazeur

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    I think they will "risk" it.
     
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    Do you think that Wilson will make an Asian version and a U.S. version with different weight ?
     
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  40. SFrazeur

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    As for the Asian version, they have made them for the Tour 90 and N90, so I would assume yes.
     
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  41. alan-n

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    Hmm, I'm not sold on the muted feel of racquets. I've always thought if I wanted a more muted feel, I would use a cushioned synthetic grip or a thick large dampener.

    Currently all I use is an extremely thin rubber band tied to simply get rid of the high pitch ping.. but you can still hear some of the ping and feel the brushing from the string bed. I'll stick with the original tour 90's unless the open string bed is does magic for my strokes (doubt it), but I'll give it a good test when its avail....

    Just can't get past the paint job. If I were to own one, paint remover, primer, gloss coat, clear coat would be in order.
     
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  42. BreakPoint

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    It's really hard to describe since it's not something that you can feel in today's modern racquets. You need to know what "old school" feel means. If you've played with graphite racquets from the '80's then you should know what that means. It's this solid, non-tinny, non-hollow, low vibration, crisp, raw feel otherwise described by most as "sweet". :D

    You really have to hit with one to really understand what all that means.
     
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  43. Keifers

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    I went to a local tennis shop today and had a look at 3 of the KSIXONE racquets -- the Tour, the 95 (16x18 ) and the Team. All were unstrung. The Tour comes in a matte finish; the other two are glossy. Side by side, the glossy finish looked better to my eye -- it "pops" more, by quite a bit actually.

    The Tour's leather grip looks red in the photos but is actually a very reddish orange.
     
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  44. BreakPoint

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    Keifers,
    Would that "local" tennis shop happen to be the one that starts with an "S" and ends with an "a" in MV?

    BTW, did the Tour look as bad in person as it does in the photos so far?
     
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  45. sureshs

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    You really want to know which shop, don't you :) In 2 threads, too.
     
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  46. tennisguy2121

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    We were actually told the same thing about the technology in the racquets. And I personally dont mind the paint job, then again i kinda like the rds001 paintjob that alot of people dont like haha. I wish they woulda made the 18x20 in an extended version too.
     
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  47. TheSnowMan

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    Which tennis shop has these rackets in stock?!!??!
     
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  48. Keifers

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    BP,
    Well, it starts with an S but ends with an 's in MV... Yes, that's the one.
     
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  49. Keifers

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    Not in stock, SnowMan... Just advanced copies.
     
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  50. Keifers

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    Well, it was going to be difficult to come up with a successor pj to the nCode Tour, which I consider to be a real classic.

    I do think the Tour would look better with a glossy finish, especially given it has more flat surfaces than the 95s. And I would like the Circle K's at 3:00 and 9:00 to be in chrome silver, as on the Team, instead of black.

    As it is, the Tour just looks a bit dull. Maybe a coat of high-quality Carnauba wax?...

    Having said all that, I'm very grateful to Wilson for the Fed-type grommet spacing at 3:00 and 9:00, and for the Fed-like shorter pallets/grip length. And if this thing plays like the PS 6.0 90 we've been praying and begging for (and which you, BP, recommended to Wilson), the cosmetics won't be that important at all, to me at least.
     
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