Kimbo Slice vs. Tank Abbott (spoiler)

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  1. Rickson

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    Just as expected, Kimbo had an easy time with Tank. Kimbo's powerful punches were too much for Tank and he went down quickly in the first round after eating his final punch that sent him to the canvas face first. Kimbo is clearly a hard puncher, but we already knew that from his internet fights. You can't send in a washed up fighter and proclaim that Kimbo is for real. Send Kimbo in against Nogueira or even Heath Herring and if he can beat them, I'll believe he's for real. Now they're talking about Ken Shamrock as Kimbo's next opponent. Please! Stop feeding Kimbo bad fighters and washed up fighters. Even if Kimbo beats Ken, nobody with true mma knowledge will believe he's for real.
     
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    I'd like to see Kimbo fight Alexander Houston. I wonder if he'll sell his soul to the UFC anytime soon.

    This fight was awful. Tank was winded after 10 seconds. I was really hoping for something better. It looked like he came in with a game plan, to take Kimbo down, but that went out the window in the same time it took to get him winded. If nothing else, would have liked to have seen how Kimbo could take a flush Tank hay maker.
     
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    Kimbo can take a shot as we saw against Gannon. That's why I'd like to see Kimbo take on a real mma opponent because even though punching is Kimbo's specialty, Gannon beat Kimbo with punching only rules. Imagine how badly Gannon would have beaten Kimbo if he were allowed to grapple as well! Kimbo can take a shot, but as we saw against Gannon, Kimbo gasses out at some point. I believe that a prime Ken Shamrock would have destroyed Kimbo, but let's face it, Ken's washed up. I think Dana White can draw Kimbo away from EliteXC at some point, but until then, maybe EXC will keep spoon feeding Kimbo.
     
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    ^ If Gannon and Kimbo fought again, which would actually be a fight that presents some very unique and awesome marketing possibilities, I'd put my money on Kimbo. He looks to be a real quick study, and Bas Rutten says his work ethic is phenomenal. He's a different fighter now and by all accounts he's taking MMA very seriously.

    In that Gannon fight, if I remember correctly, Kimbo was the more impressive fighter, but Gannon had the technical advantage. But after having trained a year, I'm sure by now the technical advantage is moot. At the end, Kimbo gassed by Gannon was way more damaged, in the MMA ring, Kimbo would have more opportunities to finish him off with his new skills.

    But forget Gannon, who was 0-1 or something, you're right, he still hasn't fought anybody legit. Although I hate the monopoly the UFC is creating, and I hate the way they promote the biggest draws, not necessarily the best fights, I'd like to see Kimbo in the UFC. Every matchup would be intriguing. Kimbo versus Crocop... or Jardine... Arlavski... Kongo... the intriguing matchups are limitless with this guy. He's still got the mystique. But I'd like to get a real sense of how good he is. Right now he's getting the freak show matchups for the most part.
     
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    I like this post. I think if you put Kimbo in the ring with Gannon today, Kimbo would win. The Kimbo vs Tank fight was a pretty weak display on Tank's part, although it was expected. They're trying to build Kimbo up by giving him old fighters, which I don't mind that much since he is a guy I've liked since his first internet fight. As 35ft6 said, the match ups with him are very nice on paper. You could put him in with a striker to see if he could pound away, or with a submission expert to really test his diversity.
     
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    Do you really think Kimbo would last one round against Rickson? Rickson would submit Kimbo in seconds.









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    Rickson's last fight was 8 years ago. Of course a Rickson in his prime would destroy Kimbo. Does it need to be said?
     
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    I mean Rickson right now.
     
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    OK Rickson fanboy.
     
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    Don't spoil a thread like last time when you were fantasizing over what I look like.
     
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    You guys have way more knowledge than I about MMA, but I do like to watch it. Anyway, what would you say about Brock Lesnar vs. Kimbo? Seems like an interesting matchup from the perspective of it being basically 2 unproven brutes going toe to toe. Both having pretty good power. If nothing else it would be fun to see, better than a washed up Tank getting beat down in 30 seconds. Thoughts?
     
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    ^ I would love to see Brock Lesnar vs. Kimbo. It wouldn't surprise me if Brock just steam rolled Kimbo.

    I wonder what UFC would do with Kimbo. They want their fighters to seem bada$$ but they're really trying to gain mainstream respectability, they don't want people thinking it's barbarism, so Kimbo could kind of hurt them. There's some really brutal fight footage of Kimbo online, plus he's an ex con and involved in the porn industry, a storyline that the mainstream news would probably love to run with all day long.
     
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    didn't that cop, sean gannon beat kimbo? http://youtube.com/watch?v=gD5Oh2bHMvw
     
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    here's a video. It was so one sided. http://youtube.com/watch?v=2G0pBHeJMkU
     
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    Don't spoil your undies fantasizing over Rickson's body.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, undies! You're so Canadian.
     
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    Hehe. Laughing is so fun!
     
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    We just call them boxers around here.
     
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    Does the UFC, have any rules about facail hair? I know in Boxing Kimbo would never be allowed to fight with that bread, it is belived that it cusions the blows to the chin. I have seen boxers complain about stubble, he has a Santa beard. IMO, it does cusion some of the impact on the chin.

    Any of you guys know if UFC, or MMA in general, has a rule for this? I can't think of any other fighters with a huge beard like his.
     
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    Looks like Tank isn't even training like he used to. Much less muscle on that frame.
     
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    No rules, but any significant amount of hair can be used against you. Just ask anyone who saw the first UFC bout between Royce Gracie and Kimo.
     
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    Hair pulling is not allowed anymore. Royce was definitely an opportunist (cheat) and he took advantage of Kimo's ponytail, but those days of hair pulling and groin shots are long over. The UFC actually has rules now and no hair pulling is definitely one of them.
     
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    Damn Ricky!! I had taped this match and was hoping to catch it later. I thought about it all day even.
     
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    I've wondered about that a few times too. I thought there might be some kind of rule about beards. Lately, I thought somebody in UFC with a beard, too. Seems like a really *****ly stubble could be "accidentally" rubbed on an opponents eyes in a clinch. Not sure what the official rule is but I'm sure you can google it pretty easily.
     
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    I watched the Youtube version of the fight. It was pretty good, all 40 seconds or it.

    I still want to see someone that can push Kimbo at least a little longer than 1 round. Houston Alexander was a good suggestion, as that would be some good standup. But now we have to wait like 3 months or more to see.
     
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    Wow, they now have rules about everything!
     
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    Oh really? Who was on the undercard?
     
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    Sean Gannon beat Kimbo
     
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    I think Gannon can still beat Kimbo and he'd have an easier time doing it because it would be mma. They handcuffed Gannon when they fought by turning into a punching only fight. Gannon could not knee, elbow, or grapple because Kimbo was a limited fighter at the time, not that he isn't now. Mark my words, Kimbo would go down against any halfway decent mma fighter and would get crushed by Nogueira and Fedor. Kimbo's not a true mma heavyweight contender. Kimbo's a novelty to whom they're spoon feeding scrubs and has beens.
     
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    If I recall correctly Gannon threw in a couple knees even though the rules were against it. Could it have changed the outcome? I don't know, I'd have to watch the fight again.
     
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    If Kimbo can beat Tim Sylvia, Heath Herring, Brandon Vera, or Mirko Filipovic, I'll believe he's for real. These are all fighters who are on their way down and are considered mid level heavyweights atm. Look at Antonio Silva for example. Antonio was on the same card as Kimbo and they hyped him up to be the next big thing in the HW division. He fights an out of shape Ricco and his true skills are revealed; Antonio's not that good. Did you see the belly on Ricco? Why don't they just pit Kimbo with Antonio and see what happens from there? If Kimbo beats a mid level hw like Antonio and he's definitely no better than mid level despite Showtime's claims, Kimbo will be considered somewhat legit. If you see Kimbo fight another has been or a scrub, you'll know EXC is just looking for one big pay day because they know Kimbo will go down when he fights a real fighter.
     
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    Bas Rutten thinks he can be a force. A champion? Maybe not, but a fighter to be reckoned with. Not sure how Bas is perceived but to me he seems like a really straight talker.
     
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    If Kimbo is for real, why don't they have him fight Antonio Silva? AS is ST's best hw, but they won't have him fight Kimbo? What's up with that? I don't want to see Kimbo fight Ken Shamrock. Kimbo needs to fight the real fighters and he needs to fight them now.
     
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    ^ Dude, be patient. I'm sure you'll see him fight somebody legit soon enough. And to think, a few weeks ago people were generally agreeing that Tank was his first real test.
     
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    Who said that? Those sherdog clowns? You and I both knew that Tank was not a good matchup for Kimbo. Tank of 1995 would be a nice fight, but Tank at almost 43 years old? Tank was not a good fighter at 30, losing to everyone who had some skill while rolling over the 1995 scrubs. Kimbo and Tank are similar in that respect. I think Kimbo will prove to be the 2008 version of a 1995 Tank.
     
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  36. Ultra2HolyGrail

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    Tanks performance was horrible, gassing out in 10 seconds. This would of been a great match 15 years or so ago. I knew it would be a stand up fight. Kimbo looks somewhat small in the ring.. I would like to see couture vs kimbo..
     
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    Or what? You're going to get angry? Give it time.
     
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    or you might soak your undies. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a nice Canadian word.
     
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    i doubt ufc ever has him fight on there cards. they dont want the image of a street fighter in there ranks. they are trying to clean up the sport and bringing in someone that is on youtube fighting in back streets and parking lots is not gonna help there cause. you will see him as a little sideshow at smaller events that struggle to get a crowd or tv coverage. they want professionals not thugs off the street.
     
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    Oh snap! I said a funny word! :D
     
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    The UFC is all about $$$. Kimbo is a big draw, like him or not. Kimbo may not have proven himself against good mma opponents yet, but people pay to see him fight. If Dana White can get the big bucks for a Kimbo fight, you'd better believe he'd do it. Look at Tyson bringing in all that money when he was several years past his prime.
     
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    UFC will get KImbo. He will sell PPV which is all that matters.
     
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    Have you ever seen Money Talks with Kimbo? They pay people to take a clean punch from Kimbo. It's quite enjoyable. Almost as enjoyable as staring and Rickson's man titties. Eh fake Rickson from TW?
     
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    Not as funny as Hot Sauce's big feminine nipples!
     
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    Ouch.. hahahaha
     
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    Tyson in his prime was no doubt the most devastating hevyweight ever. Also the crowd never got more excited than to watch him fight. Tyson would of probably give Kimbo a better fight than tank. I know he would of. And people would pay big to see that.
     
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    I still can't get over that undies word.
     
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    What a surprise. Does "peepee" make you giggle your Rickson panties off too? :p
     
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    So you found a Canadian word that makes Americans laugh? That doesn't mean evwy witto baby wud makes Americans laugh.
     
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    Their rationale was that if nothing else, Tank hated Kimbo and had a punchers chance. He didn't cower like Kimbo's last opponent.
    Kimbo seems much more disciplined and already has more skill (in boxing) than Tank ever did. Tank came at a time when the UFC was still half tough man contest, and his hands were heavy enough to take out guys who had never been in a fight outside their dojo. I agree if you're saying Tank was never a great MMA fighter, and I don't know if Kimbo will be either, but I don't think Kimbo is going to show up at fights drunk and the fact that Bas can't say enough about Kimbo's ability to learn, his work ethic, and his genuine desire to hurt people, bodes well. I don't think we've seen the best of Kimbo, but that's not to say he's the next Vanchanchyn, but maybe he can be the next Zentsov or something.
     
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